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Is it possible that paranormal podcasts like Dead Rabbit Radio, paranormal websites, forums, everything we use to read about the world of the weird, from your local ghost story to alien visitation from across the stars, are all of these tales we tell actually being used to control the world. Today on Dead Rabbit Radio. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Dead Rabbit Radio. I'm your host Chase Carpenter, I'm having a great day.
I hope you guys are having a great day too. Hope you guys are having tons of fun doing whatever you're doing. We've got a ton of stuff to cover today, so first off running into Dead Rabbit Radio Command that she's back for another shot at the pilot seat. Everyone get on your feet and give it up for Joe.
Woohoo! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
She was in yesterday's episode. Um, because I told the story about me watching Bebe's big adventure, we didn't get to the last story. But I wanted to get her back. We want to make sure all of our show supporters get their chance in the Carpenter copter.
So that's why you're back, Joe. You're going to be our captain or pilot this episode. Joe would recently bought some merch, took photos of it while she's a blurry dot in the middle of the back room. So she sent me a bunch of pictures.
I just thought that one was the funniest. Oh, here I'll post the other one on this episode since she's back. Anyways, there's a shot at the Dead Rabbit Radio show. I guess I should say, this is kind of anything we did.
Um, if you do buy Dead Rabbit Radio merchandise, even if you've bought it in the past, send me a photograph. Yeah, we'll give you a shout out. Have we done that before? I think we just started doing that last week.
That's another awesome way to help support the show, so Joe, you're going to be our captain or pilot. But if you guys can't support the merchandise, if you guys can't support the Patreon, I totally understand. I really, really do. Money is tight.
Just help spread the word about Dead Rabbit Radio. That helps out so much. Tell your friends, tell your family. Tell everyone you know Dead Rabbit Radio is your favorite paranormal show.
But don't tell the government because that last story we were going to cover today is so weird. Joe, let's go ahead and get this party started. I'm going to toss you. Where are we going?
Joe, let's go ahead. I'm going to toss you the keys of the hair, hovercraft. Everyone climb on board. This is G.I.
Joe vehicle. I think they exist in real life, but I just imagine it like the G.I. Joe. Hovercraft Joe, put on your G.I.
Joe uniform. Everyone else climb on board. We're leaving behind Dead Rabbit Radio Command. Joe, cover us all the way out to a mobile home park.
Nice, leisurely ride, probably like right him on a cloud hovercraft. We go to this mobile home park and we see this mobile home sitting there. This is the home of a boy. We're going to call him Peter.
We don't have his exact name. He's around eight years old when the story took place. This is the mobile home of Peter, his brother who we will call Wade and their dad. You see this mobile home sitting there?
Knock on the door. No answer. Weird. All three of them are gone.
Let's just hope ourselves that maybe I got like a can of chili. I can eat or something. Open the mobile home door. Walk on.
Have you guys ever been in a mobile home? I've spent a lot of time in mobile homes. When you start walking around, it moves. You're like chasing.
Wow. I don't think there's supposed to move. I think you need to lose weight. No.
When you walk into a mobile home, you can feel it shift. What are you, Shrek? No, they don't do that. I mean, they must with you.
When you're not going to a mobile home door, it's almost like moving the whole thing. The doors are always kind of flimsy. And then when you walk into it, you can feel like the weight. People are like, oh, man.
Hey, everyone, hold on to your drinks. Jason's coming. They see me walking on the driveway and someone's like, what? That's kind of me.
He's not that fat. And then I step inside the guy's like, it's still doing everywhere. They're like, we warned you. They move.
So we step inside this mobile home. They move, right? Jamie, look at how heavy you have to be to make one move. We step inside the mobile home.
We look around. No one's there. Makes sense. It's kind of later in the afternoon.
Dad's probably at work. Maybe the boys are out. Oh, you know what? Actually, I say, I know that Wade doesn't spend a lot of time here, even though this is where his dad and his brother live.
Wait, it's been most of the time in the grandparents' house. You figure Peter would be here kind of looking around. And that's when we hear a boy's voice coming from the bathroom. Hey, guys, I think he's in the bathroom.
Come follow me. No way, dude. No, no, no. Come on, man.
Come on. Come with me. So we're walking back to the bathroom and we hear this little kid going, yeah, well, that is pretty cool. The other day I was playing Roblox.
You ever play Roblox? We don't hear anyone talking, but he goes, get my favorite one is the one where it's hiding go seek. We hear Peter's saying, I go, he's talking to imaginary friend, right? Ghost?
Let's find out. We're wondering your imaginary friend, boy with an imaginary friend, a ghost impersonating an imaginary friend? Hmm. We keep walking back towards the bathroom and we hear Peter go, yeah, Fortnite's okay.
But ever since they introduced all of those vehicles, I'm not too hip on it. There's a long pause like Peter's waiting for a response. And then he goes, yeah, I guess I should give it another shot. But as we're creeping down that narrow mobile home hallway, we hear Peter say, Terraria's okay.
It's actually a little overwhelming at first. Yeah, maybe. I guess I do like Minecraft we stop. I look back and go, did you hear that?
Did you guys hear that? We hear the second voice. We hear Peter's imaginary friend. Really, really interesting story that I found here.
That's the whole setup. Peter goes, when I lived in a mobile home when I was eight years old, I had a friend who lived underneath the floor. And he would talk to me when I got off of school. I come home from school.
Hey, Peter, how you doing? Oh, pretty good. I just played a little kickball today. Fun, fun, kickball, fun.
How are your glasses going? Ah, they're doing okay. We learned about the Alamo. Someone's told me we heard him in spike and he met large marks on his way to the Alamo.
Yeah, this voice underneath the floor of this mobile home called himself Adam introduced them, introduced himself to Peter as Adam. And they quickly became best friends because so Peter's brother doesn't live with the family. He visits from time to time. I was like that when I was a kid.
I lived with my grandma and I would visit my family. I did that for about a year and a half, two years. I was just so hard to control. I was such a wild child, a hellion.
But I'm not around my grandma. I'm not around my grandma, but I was constantly, it was just a, I created a lot of havoc when I was younger, was bringing down the family stress and amount. Waves at his, I don't know if that's the exact same situation here, but Wade spends most of his time at his grandparents and visits to this home occasionally. Dad's at work.
So Peter will talk to Adam and he goes, yeah, we became best friends. It was actually pretty cool. He usually only spoke to me at certain times during the day though. It was generally right after school when I'm there by myself.
And Adam would ask me questions like, how was your day? What did you do? Tell me all these great things. You know, people love to talk about themselves.
It's really fun to come home to this. It was interesting, Peter says, that sometimes Adam said he couldn't hear me well. Sometimes he couldn't make out what I was saying. So he would ask me, can we talk in the bathroom, Peter?
I can hear you better in the bathroom. He was like, yeah, sure. He said he would just go sit in the tub. He'd have his clothes on.
It wasn't anything creepy. We'll get to that in a second. But he goes, I'd sit in the bathtub with my clothes on it. We would just chat, talk like we were buddies.
Sometimes Adam would say, hey, can you go into the living room? I'm having a hard time hearing you. Yeah, I go to the living room. Sometimes you have them sit in other places.
But primarily Adam would say, can I talk to you? Can you come into the bathroom? I can hear you better in the bathroom. Sometimes Adam would say, can you come outside?
Can you come outside, Peter? Let's hang out outside. He was like, okay, yeah, sure. Sometimes he'd be outside.
And he'd just be like hitting a stick against the grass as Adam was talking to him. But again, Adam, you can only hear his voice coming from underneath the mobile home. Peter said he has never seen Adam. Even when he was outside, I think he probably figured that, oh, he would see who Adam was when he was outside.
He goes, I never caught a glimpse of this kid. I never caught a glimpse of him. Sometimes I'd be hanging out outside of the mobile home, just kind of leaning against the wall and we could continue to talk. Now, as an imaginary friend goes, everything seems to be pretty normal.
The tricky part to that is, is that Wade also heard Adam. There was a couple times where Wade was not at the grandma's was at the mobile home and Peter was there and Wade heard Adam. Wade talked to Adam, the voice, the friend under the floor. Wade is fully aware of the phenomenon.
He knows that Peter's friend, Adam, is actually not imaginary because he can hear it as well. But it was hit and miss. Wade wasn't there all the time. And again, we don't know how old Wade was.
But like I'm saying yesterday with the whole large March story, when you're a kid, you don't really, you can, something can trigger your mind and you go, well, that's weird. But you don't think of it as being impossible because you're a kid and you don't know how everything works in the world. You can still go, this is odd. This is quite queer that I'm only hearing this voice coming underneath, coming from underneath the floor.
That's not normal, but it's not impossible. However, Peter says that he doesn't think his father ever heard Adam. He goes, that's what I assume because my dad never mentioned. He might be something he would bring up.
Hey, Peter, what are you talking about that voice coming from underneath our house? Peter says, when I was home and my dad was home, Adam never spoke. So let me dad heard him by himself one time and I wasn't there. Again, my dad never said anything.
And this went on for one year. And then one day Peter came home from school, walked into the mobile home. Adam wasn't there. Just out of the blue.
He never said goodbye. He never said he was moving on nothing. Just one day Peter came home from school and the mobile home was silent. He never heard from Adam again.
This is an interesting story for a couple different reasons. I found this one on the X board. Reason number one was we do see phenomenon turn on and off, especially around children. We do see these things start seemingly for no reason.
They just kind of happen and then they just stop happening. But usually what happens when they stop happening is the interference of an adult. I'll put some episodes in the show notes, but generally it comes down to someone going, Oh, ghosts aren't real. Or there is no one under the floorboards.
Look, I'll take you underneath the mobile home. See, there's nothing under there. And once a child is confronted with how illogical the situation is, the phenomenon stops. I find that so fascinating about children and ghosts.
This happens a lot. And I would argue it's probably happened to all of us we don't remember. I mean, we do remember the times where you think there was a monster under your bed or the boogie man in your closet or something like that. And once your parents are finally able to convince you that that's not true, you may start getting a better sleep.
The phenomenon stops. Now, what happens is there could have been something under the bed. There could have been something in the closet. And you think it's real because kids, while they know certain things are unusual, they don't know they are illogical.
So we usually see an event and there's not an event like this. It's not like the dad finally was like, Hey, son, there's nothing underneath the floorboards or he mentioned it to someone at school and they're like, Peter, you're an idiot. There's nothing under your floorboards. It's just a guy saying it's all dusty and covering God webs.
Well, here's the other thing. So this is interesting. You think it's not an imaginary friend because Wade heard it. So then you're thinking it might be a ghost, the phenomenon started, and then just stop the question is why did it stop then?
When Peter posted this online, I thought this was interesting. He ended up saying quote, I'm not sure if this is a ghost or spirit of some kind. I almost hope it was. That'd be easier to swallow than the very likely story that there was someone under my God, darn house.
In quote, he didn't say darn either. But my point is, is that I wasn't even thinking that. I hadn't thought about that when when I was reading this through. I didn't think about the fact that it could have been some weirdo under their house, a human.
And then you kind of understand why it didn't talk while it was around because they didn't want to get beat up. You have a kid who's home alone for long periods of time. You have a a human would say things like, I can't hear you well. You imagine a spirit, you don't have ears anyways, but stuff works honestly.
You know, a ghost has eyeballs and ears, you see ears, but sound works by hitting off the eardrum. You can walk right through a ghost. So how is sound hitting their eardrums? I can never state this enough.
The most steadied, paranormal expert in the world who I am not anywhere near that I'm not even on the top 1000. They do not know how this phenomenon works. It's not a question of whether or not it exists. I believe this phenomenon exists because I've experienced it myself.
But we do not understand how a ghost can hear you. It doesn't make sense. How a ghost can see you. And I believe they can hear you and see you.
But the way that we know the human eyeball works, it would not work with a specter as far as we know. Human biology tells us this one way. So fascinating questions. I'm not saying that therefore it doesn't exist or therefore that's why ghosts are dumb.
I'm saying we don't understand that. So here, if you had someone going, I can't hear you very well. Can you come into the bathroom? One, bathrooms have pretty good acoustics.
But two, if it is a human, they may not be able to hear him very well where Peter is at currently in the mobile home. So they might want Peter to move to the bathroom and you can even go creepy or like that. If it is like, it's right, this could just be a lonely man who crawls underneath mobile homes could have been a pervert. I don't always like defaulting to the pervert to explain why people do things.
Although I do recently accused a esteemed Chinese performance artist of having a pain fetish. But yeah, could have just been a pervert could have been a crazy guy just like living under houses. I didn't even think of it being a human. If it is a pervert, you know, in the bathroom, but the kid was just hanging out there with his clothes on.
And then when the guy would say, hey, can you come outside? Can you come outside? You think, well, maybe like some other perverts were in the woods. But the point is it's a watch, watch this kid walk around.
But here's nothing, nothing ever happened to Peter. It's not like, and then one day this pervert burst into the floorboards, I mean, that'd be the end of the mystery, it'd be the beginning of the terror. But no, it just ended, which would also make sense if it was a human. And he just came close to getting caught one day or whatever.
And he just left and everything back. But interesting story, because it really could be one of those two things. It's not an imaginary friend because Wade heard it. That's what I find very interesting.
It was, I think a ghost, but that doesn't answer all the questions. He might be right just from the way this is set up. It could have just been a weirdo living on it. But to me, that sounds even logistically difficult, right?
Like you're having a sneaking food and all that stuff. I don't think you're raiding their fridge. You would notice that pretty quickly. So he's like, during the day, having to go to the local mini-mart and buy some Doritos and sit in there and Peter sit in the bathroom, and he's talking to him, and here's the guy eating chips and drinking a Pepsi, logistically seems more difficult to just be a lonely ghost boy.
And then, of course, a horrible thing. Why would I, he didn't specify the age, I don't think. I don't think he ever said it was the voice of a boy. I think it was just kind of like, we double check that.
Yeah, he never specifies that the voice was young, or that was a boy. But if you think about why would a boy or ghost be underneath the mobile home, you would think there might be a body under there and the spirit is just kind of trapped in this dark gap between the soil and the floorboards. And then maybe it ended up moving on to the other side, maybe it found some peace and moved on. A terrifying story, again, it's, depends on which way you want to go.
To me, the story, I think it would be creepier if it was a human under there. Bye. I mean, a ghost under there is creepy because ghosts are kind of inherently creepy, but having a man down there would be far worse, right? He's like, just wiggling around down there, waiting to talk to a boy.
So they got the way worse than it goes to this case. That's the way worse. Three interesting things about the story. One, why did it go away?
Two, what was it? But three, leads us directly into our next segment, Joe. I'm gonna go ahead and toss you the keys to the world famous carboner copter. We are leaving behind this mobile home.
Fly us all the way out, to a mobile home. Joe is flying us around in her stylish red radio sweater, available at the merch store. We're coming back to this exact same mobile home park after this post was made. After, I recorded the last segment.
We're kind of standing off to the distance and we're looking into this mobile home park and we see a black sedan drive by. Search the slow down as it gets near to the park, the mobile home park. We see the passenger of this sedan pull out a radio and go we think we found it in the sedan drives away. We see two non-descript vans pull up to the mobile home park with some company logo on the side and a phone number, whether it's plumbing or construction or what have you, locksmiths, all of these things.
We see these vans, these two vans pull up in the mobile home park. We see men getting out of the back, maybe again walking towards the mobile home, Peter's mobile home. One of them pulls out a device from the distance that we're at, we really can't make sense of it, but honestly we could be standing right next to him. We wouldn't understand this technology that this man was holding.
And he hits a few buttons on it, a little display lights up, he turns to the other men who are with him and he nods his head and he goes, this is one of them. We see some of them walk into the mobile home while others lean down and begin to shine flashlights underneath it, trying to find a way to crawl underneath the mobile home. I'll be honest, man, this is an absolutely dope conspiracy theory. I read it and I kind of chuckled and then I just kept on going.
I just read in all this other stuff and it stuck in my mind. It stuck in my mind and I was like, dude, this could be big. I came across this post so I was on this subreddit and I've been looking for just like collections of spooky stories. I'll go to the export and look through these accounts and usually, I mean out of 100, 200 posts, I'll use two or three.
I got to read them all, but I'll use like two or three. And I love these type of one off paranormal stories because really at the end of the day, that's most of them. It's a singular witness or a group of people who witnessed the event once. It was really hard to replicate any of this.
I spent a lot of time going to these websites. And on Reddit, someone had asked the question, people who don't believe in ghosts, but do now, what experience changed your mind? So, you know, most of them weren't following the spirit of the question. Most of them were like, I always believe in ghosts, but here's a ghost story to tell you about like they weren't actually, a lot of people weren't non-believers before they shared these crazy tales or what have you.
And a lot of them are stories like the one I just told you or the one that we did yesterday about the disappearing man about the guy who worked at the Natatorium, which means a long pool. This is where I find a lot of those stories. They're just kind of one off stories that I love because you can really kind of try to figure out what the overall phenomenon is by looking at these one off stories. Well, as I'm reading these, I get quite a ways down and I come across someone who's using the, what's the term, username, Aries85.
Aries, Aries85 says you idiots, you absolute idiots. Don't you understand what's going on right now? It's crazy. This is so crazy.
I never thought of this before. He goes, I'm going to tell you something. These questions, like what's your scariest encounter? Have you ever seen a ghost that no one believed you?
All these questions, all of these stuff that you see posted up everywhere, sometimes they do it on the export. A lot of times they do it on the export and those are really, really fun things to kind of go through. Sometimes they do it on subreddit. Aries85 says they do it all the time.
They do it everywhere. And it's not somebody asking if you've seen a ghost, the person who asked that question, whether it's on Reddit or 4chan, that is a government agent. That is a Fed. What they are trying to do is to find the portals.
So when someone posts online telling your scariest camping story, what's actually going on is there is a federal agent posing as a user of this board, asking a question, knowing they will get 200 replies. Each one of those replies is going to be catalogued. Each one of those replies are going to be tracked down. Each one of those replies, they will find out who you are and the location you are talking about.
It doesn't matter how anonymous you think you are being. If you said, well, this happened several years ago and it actually happened to my father, but one day they will find you. They will find that location. They will find the date that had happened.
It's not like you're going to come to your door and bust it down and go tell us about the Natatorium. Tell us about the long pool. No, they're not concerned about you. You were the Patsy.
All they wanted was the info and you gave it to them. They will find of this mobile home. They will send agents out there and they will find out if what was underneath there is a portal because they are trying to control the entrances and exits of reality. You think you're just telling a fun ghost story.
You think you're just saying something scary happening you. You are being used by government agents and their goal is to destroy the paranormal. Dude, I was like, this is dope. I read that and I was like, oh my God, dude.
I mean, again, the first time I read it, I kind of chuckled and I go, that's kind of funny. I mean, anytime someone else and someone else online, it's kind of funny, right? Then I kept scrolling and it was kind of stuck in my head. So I scrolled back up and I was like, whoa, whoa, like that actually makes sense.
That actually makes a lot of sense. This is something I've talked about before on the show. We always hear that the government has an interest in aliens, which makes sense because it's possible enemy technology or technology from space and it's interfering with our airspace. It's over military bases and things like that.
That makes sense. You also hear about the US government working with mind control and telepathy and remote viewing totally makes sense. You can mind control people and send them back over to another country and they're really working for you. Who wouldn't do that?
If you could reach someone's mind and know what and know whatever they were thinking, whatever they were hiding from you, you would have a telepath attached to every ambassador that you could. As far as remote viewing goes, I mean, then you have spies everywhere. But you never hear about, we've talked about it before on the show, but you never hear about the government investigating ghosts. And I think there's a reason why.
I think it's because they do. It would be absolutely bizarre if they're willing to pump money into remote viewing and not pump money into mediums or people who can communicate with the dead. Because if you think that remote viewing is possible, why wouldn't the US government spend millions upon millions of dollars because they've done it in these other things to see, if someone who says they can talk to the dead, they go, okay, well, this ISIS leader died six weeks ago, what do we need to do to see if you can contact that guy, that spirit? Maybe he feels bad about all the bad headings, right?
Maybe he'll help us. Or you lose a spy, you lose someone in the line of duty and that person had information you needed. If the government's willing to put money into mind control, which we know that they did that, put money into lepathy, we know that they did that to put money into remote viewing, we know that they did that. Why wouldn't they put equal amounts of money into people who can't verifiably talk to the dead?
I'm not talking about the person at the corner street who's ripping people off. I'm talking about people who have trained their senses and can do it. It's the same thing. It's the same thing you're using the world of the paranormal as a military application.
I think they don't tell us about it one because it sounds ridiculous, right? I know I'm going to get some YouTube comments. It'll be like, no, no, no, it's different. It's different.
No, it's not different. It's actually the exact same thing. You're using the world of the paranormal. It's no different than remote viewing.
In fact, I would argue it's probably more reliable is if someone was killed at a certain site and you could contact that ghost, not only are they going to be able to tell you the layout, they can tell you all sorts of information, who killed them and how they did it and get all goring stuff like that. They're like, oh, yes, super gross. My guts are coming out. They can tell you everything that led up to that event.
A remote room looks like and they're not 100%. So it would make sense that the US government would be trying to interfere with the world of the paranormal. This goes a step further than that, though. Ares 85 says that and what's interesting, a good conspiracy theory has elements that you already believe in, elements that are believable, and then you can kind of add on the crazier things.
Ares 85 says, listen, there's two societies, really. You have the Black Society and he goes, these are truly the 0.1% of the power base in the world. These are people who rule the world. What's super interesting about this, I have not heard this either.
Ares 85 goes, the 0.1% of the people actually rule the world, but it is primarily made up of military personnel and engineers. I go, too. That's original. That's original.
What do we always hear about the people who rule the world? You know, Hillary Clinton, adrenochrome parties, Rihanna's a member of the Illuminati, Jay-Z's a member of the Illuminati. If you had a global power, those people are buffoons. Listen, I love Jay-Z, right?
I do like his music. But when you're looking at the world power base, who cares about any of those people? Even Hillary Clinton is the wife of a president, the highest she got with Secretary of State. I'm not saying that every conspiracy theory she's involved in is bunk.
But if you are a global organization that is controlling the world, she is no different than somebody who's selling shoes at a payless. She's famous? Sure. But all this stuff like Kanye West is part of the Illuminati.
They killed his mom for this Illuminati. I probably have more money than Kanye West right now. That might be an exaggeration, but you know what I mean? If Kanye West was truly a member of the Illuminati, I don't think Goodwill would no longer sell Yeezys, which is a situation he's in.
I like Kanye West. I like his music. I really like Kanye West, not knocking him. But there's always been this thing that, oh, it's George Soros, all these, and again, it was, he's probably the most powerful out of all the people I've mentioned so far.
So yeah, George Soros is a huge power broker, but not Hillary Clinton. She's a television personality. She's Oprah at this point. She has a name recognition and nothing else.
If you were creating a new world, a truly new world order, the military, top military, and not the phones who can barely win a battle, the military geniuses, you would have to have those on your side. They just look at the world differently. The reason why the engineers are a big part of this is because Ares 85 says this black society is powered by technology that's hundreds to thousands of years more advanced than anything we know. And that's why the engineers are so important to it.
I go, dude, that actually makes sense. Now, here's the thing. I'm not saying this conspiracy theory is true, but man, this is a well constructed one. I remember once I was watching 2012 one time ago, I was watching 2012 and all the people were getting on the arcs, these big ships, and they had military personnel, but then you had like all the politicians and you did have like world leaders and they're trying to get celebrities on.
They're people who were connected to this Russian guy with his wife and all this stuff. They're all getting onto the arc. And I remember we were watching the end of the movie, right? The boats are sailing away.
It's huge battleships, right? It weren't made of one. There wasn't too of every animal. But and I didn't think about this.
He goes, you know what, dude, he goes, I guarantee that if that was ever real, he looks at his watch, make sure it's not December 21st, 2012 yet. He said within a week, he goes pretty much everybody who bought their way onto the boat because that was part of it. You could pay money to get on this boat. So it was like the ultra Lee, he goes, they'd either all be imprisoned or killed.
He goes, the only thing, because the idea was the rest of the world was destroyed. These boats were supposed to reset humanity. He goes, what is the 60 year old tech bro really giving to the new society? Sure, he goes, they would take their money to get on the boat to build the boats.
But he goes, he would come down to this. He goes, you would have your military, your scientists, which would be super essential for any sort of rebuilding of humanity, which would include engineers. And he said, and then you would have young women. Everyone else would be disposable.
He goes, you would need a lot of young women to be able to procreate. He goes, if you were a woman over 40 over 50, you're going in the cell, if you're lucky, they'll probably throw you overboard. He goes, they would take their money. And I was like, oh, dude, I never thought of that.
He's like, yeah, he goes, why would the military follow the order if Elon Musk built this boat? And you would want to have military there, you'd want to have scientists with you. He goes, it would be a week before the military got rid of all of the money people because they're worthless now, absolutely worthless in this new society. And that's kind of where Ares 85 is coming from.
He does say that there is an elite class of the elite. So in this group, you have the military personnel, you have your engineers. He goes, you would also have people of like a ruling class, but that would not include Hillary Clinton. That wouldn't include JZ or Katy Perry, any of these other people that, while they may claim to have Illuminati membership, or they think they have Illuminati membership, at the end of the day, they wouldn't have that.
Hillary Clinton is no different than Nora Jones. She's a name that you know, and she's like, who's Nora Jones? But anyways, this is really interesting because it's super rare, as much stuff as I read about conspiracy theory. I don't talk about it a ton on the show, because so much of it is repetitive.
This is super well constructed, and it makes sense. In this sense, you want to have a military, you would want to have engineers because the technology is so advanced. He goes, the stuff that we have now, like if you took a cell phone, a smartphone back to 1920s, they think it was magic. The stuff that these people are working with, you would have no concept of what it is.
It's not that it looks like magic. It looks like something you can't even comprehend. Like a guy with a smartphone, he took it back to 1920s and a certain point they're going to go, oh, it's kind of like a piece of paper, but I can like keep scrolling forever. After they wake up from their heart attack, you could make sense of it in that way.
If you took a smartphone back to 1980s, they go, oh, so it's like a computer in your hand. This technology they're using, they could hand it to you and you would go, I don't know what this is. I don't know how to use it, and if I could even turn it on, I don't know what it would do. It would basically be the three seashells from that movie Demolition Man.
It doesn't make any sense. You can look at it and you can identify it as some piece of tech, but it's not like taking a smartphone back to the 1920s. It's like taking a smartphone back to a caveman who's never seen paper, who's never seen an icon, who's never held anything that wasn't made out of dirt or stone. That's the level of technology that is Black Society is working with.
He goes, you have the Black Society. The White Society is the rest of us. He said the White Society is what we would consider to be the real world. Fascinating stuff.
He does start to be honest. He does start to kind of trip himself up. This is always a bit of a criticism I see in the conspiracy theory community. He then starts trying to connect it to movies.
He starts saying, here's some soft disclosure, which is the idea of the Black Society kind of letting us know what's really going on. You see this a lot in Illuminati conspiracy theory. They don't want to tell us what's really going on, so they make the Matrix. He mentions the Matrix.
He mentions Watchmen as showing what the... You see none of these comparisons really work, but he also mentions a show called Mrs. Fletcher, or any of you guys. What's that about?
Is it about like some holographic housewife? The description on IMDb says, a divorced woman jumps, starts her love life by adopting a sexy new persona and discovers her world is full of unexpected evidence. I'm wondering if she has a split personality or something. If he's trying to get out at MKUltra Mind Control thing there, he says Rick and Morty, which would be the technology Rick and Morty is so far advanced.
He kind of goes on. It says South Park. I didn't really understand that one either. So anyway, you know, I see that a lot in conspiracy theory to try to connect it to regular stuff.
He also said that there was supposed to be a big awakening or these projects are going to be revealed to the public back in 2020. There was a thing called openized 2020 that was going to reveal all of that. Obviously, it didn't happen right? You didn't say it.
I didn't see it. But going back to the idea that they're using these... Did you see them all the time? I see them all the time.
I look for them purposely, but when I go to these, a lot of them are years old. I'll go to a thing, I'll go on Reddit and they'll be like, what's the scariest camping story you have? There's a thousand responses to that. And while some of them might just be like, ooh, that's spooky or tell me more, just like dumb responses.
Out of that thousand, there's probably literally seven to eight hundred stories in there. And if 10% of those are true, like the person's not making it up, that would give this group 70 different locations to investigate. Sometimes they're very specific where it was happening. But this group is so advanced that even if you said I don't want to say my real name or where I live, I'm actually going to use a throwaway account to tell this.
The technology that they have access to, supposedly, did I say put our conspiracy caps on? We have our conspiracy caps on for all of this. I just super excited by this one. Again, I don't know how true it is, but it sounds so plausible because the technology that these people have access to is like magic.
So it wouldn't be any stretch of the imagination that if you type this into your smartphone, a burner phone that you got from Walmart using, and no one ever does this, right? People just use their main account. But even if you went through a couple different hoops that kind of hide it, they're going to know where you are at the very least with this technology. And then they could probably do a search of your past locations.
If the technology is truly that advanced, because right now it's already Google knows everything I've been up to since 2011. They can show me a map each year. Fascinating, fascinating story. It would make sense.
He goes these government groups that are being run by this black society, they'll send out hunter killer teams to these portals is what they call them. They hear a story of the cryptid in an area. They go out there. They kill it.
They hear a ghost story. They'll go out there and investigate it and destroy the ghost. However, that's possible. Again, that's sci-fi to us.
That's the movie Ghostbusters. They want to know where these portals are opening enough because that is a risk to this group. They don't want to interact with the paranormal. In fact, this raw energy coming from an unknown reality is a threat to them, not to society at large, to them for whatever reason.
Ares 85 never really states that. He says they send out teams and they destroy these things coming through. I don't know if they're able to take over the portals or if they're sending people into them or something like that. He doesn't say, but it sounds like they're just trying to destroy whatever is coming in or waiting there in case something is trying to get out of our reality and then we'll destroy that as well.
Whether it's an alien, a hyperdimensional being, a cryptid, a spirit, he goes, all of these posts say and tell us your previous experience is a post created by the Black Society so they can map this stuff out and then find it and then destroy whatever is there. It's absolutely fascinating. And this is where it comes down to, right? Because now we're talking about it on the show.
We have all these paranormal podcasts, all these paranormal YouTube channels, books that are directories. You know, my favorite book is haunted places, a national directory, which is a location the address you can go to for each thing. If this Black Society actually exists, they've been all these places already. It's fascinating.
I've really never come across something this well-constructed that I've never heard of before. Like at this point, the JFK conspiracy theory, it's set in stone, right? But it had 70 years roughly to flesh out all of this stuff and kind of get rid of stuff that doesn't make sense. And I think most people, at this point, don't even consider it a conspiracy theory.
I think most people think there was more than one shooter. But nowadays, you come across conspiracy theories all the time and they're not as well constructed as this one. This one actually popped up a couple years ago. Well, pre-2020, Mickey originally posted about this in 2018, 2017, somewhere around there.
And he does have a, he didn't write a lot. He still posts every once in a while. He last post a couple months ago. He doesn't write a lot.
He wrote a write up about the Las Vegas shooting, which has always been in a very unexplained mass casualty event. We still don't know why Stephen Patek did it. Well, we don't know. But I think somebody does.
We did an episode on that. I'll put it in the show notes. Fascinating conspiracy theory. Again, I don't agree with all of it.
The whole bringing the television stuff into it as well. You know, do I think that there is the black society or the black world, however you want to label it and they're the 0.01%. I mean, that's definitely believable. And I would say that it would be more likely that it was run by scientists, engineers, and the military, as well as a smaller group of elite people than all of these celebrities, all of these celebrities throughout the triangle sign.
I get they're doing Illuminati. I don't think they're doing that accidentally. I think they know what they're doing when they're throwing up the Illuminati triangle. I'm not blind.
When you have all of these artists covering up one eye, I'm not blind to it. There is symbology in it. And symbols are powerful. I get that.
But it wouldn't make sense to have Eminem, who people hate it when you bring him up with the Illuminati. I remember that caused the big civil war in the conspiracy theory community back when he was on Rolling Stone or something like that. He did magazine cover where he was putting his hands up at the horns. Huge fight in the conspiracy theory community.
Because a lot of people believed that he was anti-Illuminati. And then when he made the devil horns, you had a bunch of people go, oh, he's compromised. And the die-hard M&M fans were like, never. He's doing that to expose them.
You guys just don't understand. It's so interesting, right? Because you become a slave to the symbols, and you watch people do the symbols, and you go, that guy's Illuminati, that guy's Illuminati. But when someone you like does it, and then you have to kind of start doing this backwards logic to go, well, no, no, no, he's doing it for every reason.
And now with his new song, from Dini, what does he do in the first five, 10 seconds of the song, he puts the same symbol, he puts his hand up to his head like it's horn. So yeah, yeah, but he's not a member. I mean, listen, he might think he's a member of the Illuminati. People might tell him he's a member of the Illuminati.
When everything falls apart, whether it's because of the grand plans of the Black Society, or just because an asteroid's coming and you can't do anything to stop it, Eminem does not have a seat on the ship. Neither does Hillary Clinton, neither does Rihanna. Because why would they? They're completely useless to a new society.
And this is to wrap this up about this was super fascinating. I've never heard this quote before. It's from Ares 85. And you might also ask, how is it true that it's Ares 85?
No about it. That is a bit of a logical issue, because we're just kind of taking them out as word. But this is just so well constructed. It's either true, and it completely changes the game for paranormal research.
Because what that means is that when you go to a paranormal convention, there's a fed in that audience, which to me, I think there probably will be. I think that government agencies investigate all paranormal phenomenon. We've nobody aliens. They tell us they don't do the mind control, remote viewing thing anymore.
They absolutely still do. They just hide the money better. How would you know all this? We don't know, right?
But I could see it happening. Even if you got rid of all of the other stuff, even if you don't know, I still believe Hillary Clinton's leader, the illuminator, or whatever, even if you got rid of all this other stuff, the government, the shadowy agencies investigating these smoothie stories to see if there's any proof to them to go out to these locations and check them out. They have 100% tracks. It tracks with what the government does, which is sticking their nose.
Everybody's business, right? Every government doesn't. Every government would do something like this. The Black Society, they are bigger than any world government.
They would be what we would call the illuminati. I thought this was so fascinating. He said this quote, and I never thought about this before. Because the question comes is, yeah, what happens when you have a world where you don't need money?
You don't need $50,000 together. If this technology level is true, then you absolutely don't need people investing in you so you can send out a killer team. Money would be worthless to these people. If your technology is that advanced, you could just create gold.
You just create gold. You would never have to go to a money man and say, this is what we need to do, but we need X amount of dollars, because then you're going to have to do what that money man wants one day. I thought this was fascinating stuff. Well, rather than like this, Ares 85 wrote quote, when wealth no longer matters, the ultra rich need new techniques to barter with men's souls.
Unquote. When wealth no longer matters. And that would be in this society, right? Obviously, a wealthy person could come into your town and say, you know what, I want to have that stoplight moved.
I want it moved three blocks away because it's kind of throwing me up. That would seem insurmountable, but with the right amount of money applied to the right people and the right amount of pressure applied to another group of people, you could get that stoplight moved. They would figure out a reason to sell it to the public, and even if they voted it down, they would go, well, you know, I'm making an executive decision, we're moving a stoplight. Money affects us directly, sometimes in positive ways, sometimes in negative ways.
But if you're dealing with the ultra rich, and they're also dealing with people who money is just nothing at this point, how do you maintain power? If everyone on the world, if everyone in the world had a billion dollars, a billion dollars would be worth $1. And that would be this ultra society. It's super interesting because this makes sense in this tracks because we see it in the newspaper, when wealth no longer matters, the ultra rich need new techniques to barter with men's souls.
Every day you find what happens is money is useless at this level. So it's all about life extension. Instead of going to somebody like George Soros and saying, we need your money to do this, you go to George Soros and go, if you want to live longer, we have the technology, and George Soros goes, I'll pay anything for it. And they go, well, we don't want money.
Money's useless to us. We want you. I mean, imagine being Bill Gates, and then all of a sudden, you're a shoe shine boy to the Black Society. All of your windows?
Well, I mean, what that's worthless to us. We have technology so far advanced than that. You're billions of dollars. We could give you trillions of dollars.
You'd still be a shoe shine boy to us. Fascinating. Fascinating conspiracy theory. I don't think I've come across anything like this in a long time.
That 100% tracks, again, that 100% makes sense. I will have to say, I'm going to be honest, I kept calling it the Black Society. I think he calls it the Black world. I don't know where I got Black Society from.
So many of my checks, my notes, they're like, well, he never said Black Society. He always talked to my head. Maybe they're beaming the stuff in my head. Sounds better.
I didn't mean it to sound better. I guess I didn't write it down enough on my notes where Black Society come from. But anyways, yeah, that totally makes sense. He goes, we would have, he said the Black, I'm just going to keep on Black Society.
Sorry guys, the Black Society will offer this life extension tech. Another thing is drugs with no side effects. You can have the Oxy cotton, but without the addiction, you can have the crank, you can have the meth, but without, you know, like literally everything that goes around with your body from that, you can drink and get drunk, but you'll never be an alcoholic because they can just make that stuff. What's interesting to and again, like I kind of want to point out the stuff in the conspiracy theory that I don't necessarily think works well.
He says life extension technology, I mean, listen, man, if you're 80 years old and you're super powerful among humans, you want to live as long as you can, especially if you don't know what's on the other side. Doubley, especially if you made a deal with a devil to get where you're at right now, you definitely want to extend your life, because that's absolutely fascinating stuff. It's really coming from just one guy. In a way, it's just like monkeys don't exist.
It's just like monkeys worm hat theory that monkeys are not real. It's one guy saying this, but the difference is when you hear someone say monkeys don't exist, I'll put that episode on the show notes, you go, what? You kind of start to think about all the, all the counter answers to that, all the arguments to that phrase. When you listen to what Ares 85 is saying, your brain does want to do the same thing, but the more time you spend looking at it, like any good conspiracy theory, you start to go, that does kind of make sense.
That does kind of make sense. So, is there any truth to it? We don't know. We don't know.
There's so many different elements to it. The hunting the paranormal creatures could be real, but the Rick and Morty being connected to it kind of a soft display, that could not be real. You know, there could be certain things that do work and certain things that don't, but as a conspiracy theory overall, I'm giving it an A plus. This is one of the coolest, craziest conspiracy theories.
I've come across it a long time, and it might be the first one at a long time where I've said this one might be true, as opposed to like monkeys don't exist. It's funny stuff, right? Or it's just weird. You've never heard it before.
It's funny. This one, you're like, I mean, you know what? Some of it sounds logical. Some of it sounds really logical.
And then just even going back to just, if you remove all of those conspiracy theory elements and just break it down to a government agency, no black society, none of this other stuff, you go a government agency investigating hauntings and alien encounters encrypted sightings and all this stuff, that totally makes sense. It would be ridiculous if they didn't investigate that. If they're willing to put millions and millions of dollars into these other programs, why wouldn't they wonder what if that cemetery is haunted? It sounds funny when you think about it, but it makes sense you could have access to the world of the dead.
Talk about intel, talk about spine, infiltration, assassination. Why wouldn't they investigate this stuff? So the next time you see a post online asking you for your serious story, and man, you got one to tell for sure, you might want to think twice before your keys hit that keyboard, because while you may simply be talking to another curious fan of the world of the weird, there may also be a chance that on the other end of that website is a shadowy organization that's going to use your spooky story to further consolidate their power over this planet.