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EPISODE · Jul 30, 2024 · 51 MIN

EP 1314 - The Snuff Film Killer

from Dead Rabbit Radio The Daily Paranormal Podcast · host Jason Carpenter

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They see milk does a body good, but is it possible that milk also alters reality and then we travel to Alaska to take a look at a Story of a serial killer who was recently caught and while justice has been found for his victims Is it possible that authorities are covering up a more horrendous crime? Was this serial killer actually a producer of snuff films today? Hey everyone welcome back to another episode of dead rabbit radio. I'm having a great day I hope you guys are having a great day, too.

Hope you guys had tons of fun Do what you're doing. We're gonna be talking about snuff filling You know, hopefully you did the fun stuff earlier, so the second story is not super depressing But someone who's never depressing and someone who always comes in with a big smile on their face He's also not filled because they're running in with big smile in his face. Everyone give it up for khaki cube That radio commander khaki made a donation during our 6th anniversary livestream special really really appreciated that And that is why he's gonna be our captain or pilot this episode If you guys can't support the show financially through the patreon or through the Merch door that's totally fine. It really is just helps read the word about dead rabbit radio that helps out so much Tell your friends tell your family and tell everyone you know Dead rabbit radio is your favorite paranormal show.

Okay khaki. Let's do this. I'm gonna toss you the keys of the Jason Jalapi. We're taking a road trip.

Everyone climb on board as khaki fires up this rickety old chitty-chitty bang-bang car and drives us all the way out to Missouri Nice leisurely journey across the United States and we're about to join fellow travelers They're making their way across the United States as well. We're gonna take a look at the story. The year is 2002 And we're gonna meet a 12-year-old girl. Her name is Samantha.

That's actually not her real name That's the name. We're giving her wool-collar Samantha Samantha and her mom are driving cross-country. They're getting ready to make a big move Yeah, driving on the freeway Going any which way it's they're going down I-70 so if you know Geography if you live in Missouri, I'm sure you know where this road is apparently it's really long I generally understand it's kind of the point Jason. It's called an interstate as to go from one state to another I-70 Biceps the state of Missouri people have really tried to figure out where this story took place and while there are a lot of possibilities You may question the intent, right?

You may go well Why would you want to find out where this horrendously double-ish story takes place the most art in paranormal researchers? I was like oh Our bell and soul came back from the grave to figure the people haven't tried to figure out where to start to face But I'm building it up a little bit anyways, we're driving down I-70. We're following this mother and Samantha It's a one trip right and you know, they're gonna get hotels along the way So mom's driving and she goes hey look a hotel. That's awesome You know the difference between a hotel and a motel and Samantha goes no I don't hotels go up and motels are just One or two stories and they kind of spread out and Samantha's like wow, that's pretty interesting I think that's so interesting.

I brought that up like 20 times on this podcast anyways Mom's driving the car she goes look it's a hotel. See how it goes up Samantha's like oh, it's pretty cool And luckily right next to this hotel is an Applebee's An Applebee's restaurant. Applebee's is delicious. It's a little pricey, right?

I'm more of a chillies man myself, but you know settle for some Applebee's if I got if I got the money I'd still really go to Chili's and Applebee's but anyways, especially this Applebee's because it's super spooky I'm all building it up in Art Bell himself would never eat of this Applebee's They go, that's perfect combo. We'll get a room at the hotel go to Applebee's. Yeah, so they go they check in So the hotel get a room. They go.

Okay, let's go. Let's go get some eatin They walk into the Applebee's and it's packed some hunky tonk music probably playing some Shania Twain It's playing they walk in the Applebee's and I'm walking the Applebee's and it's packed which time it takes them by surprise because the hotel I have a lot of people there like they can just tell from the parking lot. So it must be mostly locals at this Applebee's They walk in and it's so packed that there's no seating for them at a table. So the waitress goes Hey, honey's how would you like to sit at the bar?

Is that okay with your two? She does like yeah sure that'll be fine, you know, so they go and they sit at the bar to just order some food And Samantha's looking around, you know, she's never been in this area and she starts to realize something is off She looks over the table of four over there. Hmm. She looks over here She sees table two first date.

Maybe Weird keep looking she even looks down at the bar even though they're seated in the bar area There are people who are sitting there to drink But every single person in this Applebee's that Samantha can see has a big glass of milk on the table No people were drinking it is big ice cold fresh glasses of milk What now you figure you might see that at one table, maybe two, but every table even the people sitting at the bar are drinking milk and As Samantha's like this is kind of weird The mom's picking up on it too The mom leans over to Samantha goes to with all the milk. Why is everybody drinking milk? It's like I don't know I thought maybe you would know it. Oh no And at that point the server who's also kind of doubling as a bartender back here servers like hey everyone here I'm gonna drop off some menus and we'll go ahead and get some stuff started for you when you want and he's holding to Big glass is a milk and he sits them down in front of Samantha and her mom And the mom goes.

Oh, no. No, I'm fine. I'll just take water And at that point the server kind of looked at her and gave this half chuckle and kind of shook his head and walked away They didn't order milk They're sitting at his bar with these big glasses of milk and they're like what and then throughout and the mom tells Samantha don't drink it Don't drink it. It's all super delicious.

I'm all like you don't drink it. It's never gets like what she's double-fisting it No, she because they're suspicious now. Here's the thing It's fine to be it's fine to be suspicious if someone brings you a drink if that person is a waiter They're gonna bring you drinks. Maybe they are suspicious that they put something in the mouth But everybody's drinking the milk Everyone's all tripping out.

They're like, I can see the music But the mom says not to don't drink the milk First-year bones are all brittle. She's like all mom. I've never had milk I've only heard rumors of this thing called cows. I was like don't drink it then because they're still gonna order their food, right?

Because it's one of those stories that's your butt chase This is just a milk Really? That's what's going on? Is this your way to kind of counterbalance the snuff story? Well, hold on.

Hold on They do order their food, right? Just like everything's all creamy. It's like milk. It's the breakfast floating in a bowl of milk She's like, oh man.

No, they do order their food. They get normal food They don't drink the milk, but they see the server at one point kind of open this mini fridge I don't know if it's a mini fridge They see the server at some point open up this fridge that's like stationed against the bar and when he opens it up It's just full of gallons of milk Are we on a prank show? Like what is this? But anyways, they eat their food.

They don't drink the milk and they end up taking their leftovers and they're like that was weird You know a bunch of milk and they eat stuff like that. So they're walking. You're like, yeah, Jason. It is weird I don't know if it's paranormal.

Anyways, they're walking out of the restaurant with their food and they're puzzled But they just figure maybe I don't know Maybe people really like milk so they walk to back to their hotel because it's like right next to each other They walk back to the hotel and when they're walking through the lobby They are talking to the receptionist or there's a specific term for someone who works at a hotel The mom asks Hey, what's up? What's up in this town? Everyone loves milk. What is that?

It's a map to send my mom asked it in kind of like a half inquisitive half joking way because we weren't curious about it She wasn't accusing anyone of anything, but the mom's like, oh, hey, what's up with that Applebee's everyone was drinking milk What's up with that? And the receptionist concierge. What is it called? Night clerk, whatever the hotel staff person goes What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? Everyone drinking milk? And the mom's kind of dropped it because she's like, well, maybe this person, her bones are all brittle. She's in a wheelchair.

It's all And it's reaching up to the bell thing thing. Someone else will grab your bags. I've never drank milk Mom is like, oh, okay, you know, maybe just we went in on a weird night She didn't press the issue with the receptionist. Just say, oh, whatever So they take their leftovers and they go upstairs to their room and they're like, oh, yeah We'll save these for later and Samantha's walking over with her leftovers to the mini fridge and she opens it up It's full of milk.

It's all splashing out. It wasn't even in a container. It's like a shining there. Ah, they're getting washed away No, she said it had ten mini cartons of milk But it wasn't a brand Wasn't a brand.

It was just white boxes with black lettering on it. That said milk. So ten of those Here's the thing. So I'm not So, okay It's not very normal.

It's maybe not maybe it is though. Maybe It's a milk dimension, but before we get more into that the story was posted online By somebody going by the name sweet rhyme a pure reason and well, she doesn't think they actually went to the milk dimension She did post this and she goes listen me and my mom We've talked about this for years decades really she goes up as a story that we bring up at parties Because we always thought it was so weird We went to a town where everybody drank milk and you got free milk at the hotel. Maybe it was a mini fridge Maybe it's like $2 a carton or something, but you got milk She posted this online and people have been trying to track down exactly which Applebee's this was Apparently in Missouri or at least that part of the country motels and Applebee's being next to each other are like everywhere off I-70 there's dozens of them and what's interesting is when she told a story at some point one of her family members It wasn't her or her mother, but one of her cousins Suspected that it didn't take place in Missouri, but took place in Kansas instead So that's possible. She could be getting it off But apparently people have been trying to find this Applebee's but they can't It's a paranormal mystery vanished off the face of the world.

Here's the thing. It's weird. It is weird It's weird, but here's the thing that's even weirder. No one can figure out We don't I mean like assume the person selling the truth in this particular story I kind of give them the benefit of the doubt when I cover stuff on the show unless I find stuff to the contrary She's telling the truth So that's the story of the milk town.

That's a story of a town. That's not a story It's barely a story the story of one night Well, here's the thing people have been trying to figure out exactly which Applebee's this is there has been a push online For people to find out where this took place because we do have a state and we do have a road and that's why people are like dude I 70s huge it's like 300 miles Probably right I didn't fact check that but they said but there's a hotel in an Applebee's next to each other They said that's all along I 70 it could be any one of these small towns the question is can you find it? And if you don't chase any come on I get it you think it's injury and I think it's injury. I think it's weird So here's the thing there's a couple different theories about this one It's a town that actually had a surplus of milk Due to some sort of tragedy Right, there's some terrorist attack blew up a milk silo and it all floated into this now No, they go possible the town had a ton of milk left over from like hurricane season We're like schools were getting blown away and families were getting torn asunder but the government came in and gave him free milk And everything was a okay if it took place in a dairy town.

It would kind of make sense I don't know how many dairies are out in Missouri, but it's also possible that they drove into an alternate reality where everybody loved milk And then drove back out and now they're in our world where people are like okay on milk So that's the story. Here's the thing. Listen. I do think that story's interesting.

I don't know if it's paranormal, but I will say this It's weird Such a low threshold to come on back here's why then here's why I think I like the story of milk some a little bias that is weird I also needed to find the right story before we move into our next one So before we do that though, can you find out where this milk town is? That was worth that Kecky cute, let's go ahead and touch the keys to the world famous carboner copter. We are leaving behind Milktown waving goodbye Can't look up their offer carrying gallons of on gallons of that free milk kecky cute take us out of here We're flying all the way out to Alaska And all the way up to Alaska now this story is crazy And we covered it the first half Years ago This is what I love about doing this show And that fact that it's been on for so long That some of the stories we've covered earlier on in the run of the show Now we have answers to but the answers for this story are four more disturbing than we originally had thoughts When I first covered it and I honestly feel that there's a bigger story going on that the police and the authorities are covering up So let's go back to our original episode is episode 357 almost a thousand episodes ago It's September October around there 2019 And in Anchorage, Alaska This woman's walking down the street one day And she looks down and she sees on the ground An SD card Little memory card just sitting there on the ground And it looks the wrong she's like what? Hmm, okay She picked it up Took it home The curiousness, right?

I think a lot of us would do that you find a CD on the ground and it's I don't know voice of the beehive Which is made up that's a puzzle, that's a major gene that I There's a band that I listen to all the time in a college And you're like cool But there's no one ever said that I love the voice of the beehive but anyways I would go wow voice of the beehive I haven't heard of this album since 2002 And I take it home listen to it all dancing But if you saw blank CD on the ground Well, no computer has a CD wrong Old man What I'm saying is that if we find digital media on the ground that's unlabeled There is a part of us that does want to see what's on it So this totally makes sense that this woman finds this SD card Takes it home and puts it in What she sees is a video of a woman being tortured And murdered And in the video you hear this man saying Just die As he's strangling her There's also photos of her body On the SD card So this woman She does the right thing she takes it to the police department And she turns it in and she's like you guys aren't gonna believe it's on here Right, it's the torture and murder of a woman And the police are watching it and they're hearing the guy taunt this woman as he's killing her And the cops are kind of looking at each other and they go We know who that is We recognize that voice So in very very short order because he was a suspect in a previous investigation Is the term that keeps being used in the media They tracked down Brian and Steven Smith He was in his mid to late 40s And the reason why because you never see his face in the video But the reason why they knew it was him Was because he was from South Africa who had immigrated to Alaska And he had a very distinct accent So when they heard his voice they go it has to be Brian They go and they start their investigation right because he is a suspect and a murder They go and arrest him But then they're also trying to get evidence for trial and all of that stuff And it turns out that the video was shot at a hotel It was actually shot at a at town place suites by Marriott Hotel big hotel. It's not some seedy dump with an apple piece next to it in full of milk The carpet in the video matches the carpet of that hotel And he stayed at that hotel around the same time when the video was made So it was pretty good You could argue circumstantial evidence but good evidence as far as this being him Now we covered that part of the story a thousand episodes ago What has come out now? You can see here's the thing when we talked about that Yes, if you found an SD card on the ground You would be curious about it, but I haven't listened to that episode in years But I'm pretty sure I stayed at then and I definitely think now Well, how did the SD card end up on the ground in the first place? How did it end up there?

What was interesting was maybe a week ago As Sabine was telling me hey, did you hear about that serial killer that they caught in Alaska? He finally got sentenced and she was talking about him and I go oh that was this Story that I had covered on the show a thousand episodes ago So I went to go see how the story ended and how the story ends is Even more chilling than how it began But let's go back to that SD card on the ground because that was such a weird thing like was it in his pocket Did it fall out? Was it some sort of miracle that this Card ended up on the ground so his crimes would be exposed The police are talking to the woman who brought in the SD card and she goes I found it on the ground They find the video they arrest them and at this point the police officers they ring the woman back in and they said You got to tell us the truth She's like what now I found it on the ground and they look at her and they go He's being charged with multiple murders But his defense is going to chew up this evidence unless you tell us how you really got this SD card So this is all evidence that's coming out in these new newer articles When it turns out brian picked up a prostitute who was this woman And at one point he stops the car and gets out to go to the ATM And she stole his phone and ran away Well, he was at the ATM. He left his phone there.

She took the phone. She stole it and she took off running That's how she got the SD card She made the story up about finding it on the ground Because she didn't want Here's the thing she'd already been arrested for prostitution. She got a couple other priors the police knew who she was And I think that also gave it's very again a miracle because she could have not taken that cell phone Honestly, she may have ended up another victim But she stole that cell phone and she wasn't telling the police that and the police were like You have to be honest with us because his defense is going to go after this And so she that solves that mystery right of how the SD card ended up on the ground She was lying. She took the phone now the defense obviously was saying Well, how do we know she didn't make this evidence up?

My client here didn't have the phone she could have made it up and they're like So distinct it's clearly him Right And so the judge was able to say no because the defense was trying to have the SD card throwing out Because of you know theft and all this other stuff and luckily the judge didn't do that Ryan ended up confessing to the murder of the first woman her name was Kathleen j Henry She was 30 years old She was killed in September of 2019 like that video was found Days if not weeks after she was murdered So it was I hate to use this word, but a fresh kill He also confessed to the murder of a woman in 2018 named veronica abochak. She's 52 years old So he confessed to those two murders the police are still you know verifying everything and they find out that yes Where they ended up finding Kathleen's body they could track his cell phone You know by doing like a past where the phone was pinging they could place him in that area July 2024. This is why sabine was mentioning to me because it just happened this month He was finally sentenced to 226 years in prison But the story still isn't over The authorities I believe Know that this goes way way deeper than brian being a serial killer who killed two women I think he confessed to those two To hide a deeper secret and honestly sometimes the police the authorities you don't want any seat of doubt in the jury So even if the police find that this is a big conspiracy involving a bunch of people They won't bring it up. They won't bring it up for multiple reasons But one of them is then the jury goes Well, how do we know he killed that person because if you're saying there's a conspiracy and there's 30 people involvement The other one is that you have to look at corruption If it's a conspiracy of a bunch of knuckleheads running around on the street Then they're just knuckleheads But the more money you get the more powerful people involved in a conspiracy the easier it is for someone to make a phone call To a prosecutor to a judge to a politician saying you need a end of this investigation right here Here's a quote from a CNN article.

This isn't just conjecture Well, I guess it is kind of conjecture, but I have some evidence I think to prove that this goes far deeper than just Brian killing two women that he might actually be Creating snuff films Snuff film obviously definition is when you create when you murder people on camera for commercial intent So that doesn't include ISIS videos Doesn't include cartel videos doesn't involve videos like the Leonard Lake Charles in where they're just videotaping people being murdered It's where the purpose all of those could get sold down the line But when you say I'm going to kill this person with the intent of making it commercially available That is the legal definition of snuff film. And that's why you will see the government go snuff isn't real You'll see FBI go you know investigated it back in the 80s. We've never found proof of a snuff film Because when you start making it is the goal to sell it commercially If you make something and then afterwards go we can sell this that's the difference between us It's such a specific Legal term that yes, you could go snuff's not real is always just this giant mega display of all of these people being murdered behind you Because yeah, it didn't start off that way Let me read you this quote from the scene and I should say too Yes, I know you can go to these horrendous websites. I know a lot of them get shut down But you just watch these horrific images of people getting killed True snuff Can earn tens of thousands of dollars a single video.

So it's not something that a normal person What is the thing normal person wouldn't buy it anyways? But it's not something that is in the price range because it's so specialized It's not something in the price range of the average person and again the average person wouldn't want to buy it anyways But let's look at this quote from so we're talking powerful people Let me read this quote from the CNN article. They got it from Associated Press quote Smith's face was never seen in the videos But his distinctive South African accent which police eventually recognized from previous encounters was narrating as if There was an audience On the tape. He repeatedly urged Henry who was Kathleen J Henry He repeatedly urged Henry to die as he beat and strangled her And then this is a quote from brian the killer quote in my movies Everybody always dies What are my followers going to think of me?

People need to know when they are being serial killed unquote Now I've never heard serial killed. I've never heard that used as a verb Or a I guess I have serial killing but as a past tense where people need to know when they're being serial killed That's odd, but forgetting that grammatically dramatically bizarre statement from a man-man In my movies everybody always dies What are my followers going to think of me? Now you see how that CNN article before we got to that they said he narrated it as if there was an audience Meaning this is a one-off video No one's watching these He's filling them for himself as if he had an audience But then he states and again, so the first when we covered the story three four years ago five years ago actually The only quote they gave us was just die And even then it was quoted as just dot dot dot dot. So there's something in the middle I'm assuming the F one that was the only audio clip that we didn't couldn't hear but that was the only quote from it Now we're getting this quote and the video was so graphic apparently when they showed it in the courtroom They blinked it out for the audience That's not the right term.

The jury got to see it and everyone else that defended the lawyer But they made it so the other people sitting there to watch the trial couldn't see it. They could hear it Because it was that bad So we're getting these quotes He has an audience he has followers. He has people who are watching these videos and most likely paying for them Maybe not you go. Maybe he's just posting it online.

These videos I've never ever heard of them being released to the public Now that doesn't mean that someone can't pay money for it and buy it and then release it themselves But you know when you look back to like the monkey torture videos We've done a couple episodes on those freaks that pay money to watch these monkeys get tortured You would have people have to first off pay five a thousand dollars whatever was five thousand dollars All sorts of amounts then once they owned it it would be up to them to release it if they wanted to But a lot of times you wouldn't write it was part of your collection We see the same thing with child pornography as well But he definitely is talking I like that as if he has an audience which is supposed to imply to us that he doesn't But he's clearly saying he does people are Watching these very I believe I because we're coming up to something else here going on too I believe that he actually does have an audience and the police don't it's not that they don't want to investigate that It's either they didn't want to muddy the waters legally or they were told not to Did you be talking about very powerful people If you could drop ten thousand dollars or more on a clip Sometimes people will custom order that stuff. It's funny because you go chasing him That's a little extreme with the snout that's all horror movies We see people do it with the monkey videos There's a whole industry based around people custom ordering torture monkey videos We know that exists. They have been broken up law enforcement has come in But then to go oh, but they wouldn't do that to a human they absolutely would if the money is right Someone will make it And this would be a snuff film because like he's saying I have my followers in my movies everybody always dies They're only telling us about the one in my movies everybody always died Let's take a look at this too. I thought this was interesting in a terrifying way No, remember we had Veronica Abuchuk.

She died in 2018 And he admitted to that death Brian goes I killed Veronica back in 2018 And he goes and I left her body here. I left it right here And the police go No, you know, we found Veronica's body and it was over in this location We found her body back in 2018 shortly after she disappeared We didn't know who killed her But we found it over here and he goes no Her body's right here And he's pointing to a different location So the cops go to the location and he's pointing at and sure enough They find the remains of Veronica They're able to verify that was actually her at this location that he is telling them at This is where she's at. I don't know if they use dental records or DNA But they 100 know that this is the body of Veronica so they go well, who was that? Who was that woman we found in 2018 that we thought was Veronica And why did we think that was Veronica sure this woman went missing them in a couple months later we find this body in 2018 A body is found that as far as I can tell to this day is still unidentified In 2018 they find this body that Brian says I have no connection to that They find this body out in this location and on that body Either in a pocket or in a purse Because the ID The identification card of Veronica Abuchuk A totally different body One that Brian has never confessed to So what is If he saying he didn't kill her But she has the driver's license of someone he did kill Means either he's lying and he did kill her Which sometimes killers are weird like that.

They'll admit to these two but they won't admit to these four or whatever Or there's something bigger going on Because I would say it probably was him who killed this other woman But you question why isn't he confessing to that? Is there a movie of her is there a movie of Veronica? They just have the one SD card apparently because he was married They came into his house and took everything they could find once they had got all the warrants They got hard drives and SD cards and all that stuff We haven't heard of any of that Which makes me think one of two things one that there is they went through every other digital fingerprint every other device that he had And there was nothing Of criminal value except for this Veronica video on his phone that a woman just happened to steal luckily Or they found things that either implicate powerful people or again I don't want to always say it's conspiracy sometimes they can look and they can see all this horrific stuff on this hard drive and they go It looks like he's a part of this network Looks like he we have these email correspondence between him You know what we're just going to prosecute him for the two crimes he'll be in prison for the rest of his life Because once you start once you go into the courtroom lawyers Hate conspiracies unless you're a defense lawyer prosecuting lawyers hate that stuff And the defense lawyer could go up and go Gentlemen and gentle women of the jury my client is innocent He didn't murder those two women but the snuff film group that he's a part of did They're not going to bring that up either in this particular case, right? They either found proof of what we're talking about because we have it's not adding up He's clearly saying people are watching these videos and the AP is like oh no He's just talking like a fifth grader who pretends he has a hundred thousand followers on youtube He'll sit down to stream and no one's watching but he goes hey guys.

Thanks for the likes and check Or he's actually part of a network. He's creating snuff film for people I thought this was really interesting. This was from the Associated Press. There was an article written by mark thiessen Listen of this even even mark sings a little uneasy with the answer to this Quote elaska state troopers in 2018 incorrectly identified another body as that of abuchek What we were just talking about quote elaska state troopers in 2018 incorrectly identified another body as that of abuchek Because abuchek's id had been discovered with it Four reasons that remain unclear Unquote So the police aren't telling him right even though reporter for the Associated Press is like how what what does that mean?

You found this murder victims id card on this other murder victim How when the cops are like, uh-huh Somebody's covering it up. I'm putting all my cards on the table here I'll give them the possibility that they know that this is part of a conspiracy He is making snuff films for an audience the prosecutor did not want to open that kind of worms And the police actually know that this is a thing And the defense doesn't want to touch it either the defense is like well, you know That's one of the few times I don't make my client worse conspiracy will actually make it worse if he's part of this enough organization And they say you know prosecutors drive me up the wall They'll say whatever prosecutors are the equivalent of a car salesman. They'll say whatever it takes to make the sale Uh, I can't stand it. But anyways, it's possible that the prosecutors like you know what we'll go after this group later But right now let's focus on him.

I've heard prosecutors say stuff like that such a joke Because they just want to close that It's possible that the cops just don't want to bring up the whole this guy's part of a huge enough community because it's going to give Cause reasonable doubt in the jury as opposed to who did what it's also super disgusting, right? It's not something there's a lot of stuff that law enforcement deals with That they just don't tell people about because it's just too disturbing. It's just too gross Could be that could be that they're not telling us or it could be that they're not covering it They're not investigating it They're hand waving this away to the journalist being like yeah, he doesn't have an audience It's just him wacko talking to himself as he's beating and torturing and strangling this woman But they know they wouldn't know for sure at this point because they took all of his devices if he is a member I'm not saying he's the highest ranking guy He's not the steven soddenberg of the snuff world. He's just a dude who's making the stuff It's also interesting because I say they knew him from a prior investigation, but I couldn't find a concrete Answer to what that could have been it could have been that you know, he got arrested as in a prostitution scene Because we know we picked across the tooth it could have been anything But they knew who it was so much that when they heard his voice on the video they knew who to go to So I'm gonna be honest.

I'll put on my conspiracy cap with this one. I think that there is a snuff ring Of course that that's that's obvious, right? That's not I'm not breaking any news right there But I think that the Alaska the Anchorage, Alaska police department law enforcement up there is I don't want to say actively covering it up. I would hope that if they're covering it up They're kind of doing it against their will Where you have someone higher up in the chain being like, uh, just bury it The guy got 226 years the rest of the stuff on there.

You got videos from around the world You went to his house. You took this hard drive. There's a hundred videos of a hundred different murders They didn't take place in Anchorage. You don't know where they took place We don't know how old the videos are It's just I mean the interesting thing is that technically yeah murders illegal wherever you do it, but owning gore videos is not illegal It's obscene in some countries, but it's not illegal It's not like child porn where the creation distribution and possession of it is illegal the whole way The creation of a murder video is illegal distribution and ownership of it is not If you came across a snuff video and someone's hard drive They're not here's the thing they're not gonna be knocking down doors.

It's if they know it's in their area They will put a stop to it. Hopefully But other than that you can have a hard drive full of this stuff. That's not illegal So I think that there is a less emphasis and again People don't want to know about this stuff. So it's not like, you know, the police officers will go out and say Hey, we caught all these child predators the other day we're making our community safe You're you're never going to see a police captain go guys in this neighborhood There were two people creating snuff videos, but we got him.

There's more out there Freak people out also. We've been told snuff isn't real So man, it's crazy because like I I think it's being covered up. I think it's totally being covered up I think he is part of a larger network of people who are manufacturing distributing snuff films I totally believe that My question is why is it being covered up? It could be because it's just too shocking When I say covered up, I mean like we don't know about it Why there isn't like, you know, people like, hey, this is a thing and we caught this guy We're going to keep investigating this one is because people don't want to read about it when they're drinking their coffee in the morning And they're reading the news too that they didn't bring it up during the trial Which I understand because they didn't want to muddy the waters, but now that he's arrested They could say hey, we actually found he's part of this network.

We're going to go after him Those two kind of make sense, but I think that my conspiracy cap is defaulting me too They were powerful people who are involved in this industry and they told Anchorage, Alaska They go hey, you guys got your little fish He's in prison for two hundred and twenty six years stop investigating it And again, it only takes one phone call to a politician to a prosecutor And then the investigation's over and it's super easy The police don't even have to know there's a conspiracy Basically the politician goes hey, you guys caught the guy. I don't want any bad press where it turns down anchorage You know everybody loves anchorage whatever our slogan is drop all this snuffs nonsense I hear you guys talking about that's all it takes It doesn't take a smokefield room and a guy being like I love snuff so quit investigating me No, you can totally cover it up like that So I don't know, maybe I'm totally off base on this one, but I don't think so if we take this serial killer at his word I think he did have an audience I think he has followers and the problem with this type of industry is that I mean imagine hopefully not but imagine if Steven Spielberg died at tomorrow All of the people who love Spielberg movies are just going to go watch movies from other directors If you take one of them out of the equation, it doesn't mean that the industry suffers at all You may have the occasional person go oh, man. I really miss Steven Spielberg movies I wish he was still around Just like you might have an average snuff entertainer guy who the guy watches snuff go Oh man, Brian's stuff is really good sucks that he got locked up I'm done watching snuff Oh, they're just going to keep watching it. They're just going to move to another creator And the video that he made of Veronica and I He says I've made other videos people always dying my videos He is probably a bunch of these those are still out there Those are still being sold and shared and viewed These innocent victims being killed not just by a serial killer But by a serial killer motivated by making money off the suffering of others Which in a odd way seems to be the lowest The lowest form of serial killer.

That's not true the crazy sex ones. They're they're the worst But above them but below the guy don't know where i'm going with this You know, you have different types of serial killers. You have guys like the unibomber who while miss guided had a purpose And then you have Jeffrey Dahmer who was okay kind of purpose doing his trying to build a living sex robot But somewhere in the spectrum of serial killers towards the bottom is the guy who's just doing it for money He could get a job He could go get a job. He could go work at jiffy loom or something like that.

He goes no I'm gonna You're at the interview and you're like, well, Brian. I think you'd work really good here at this jiffy But he's like, you know, why you've been interviewing me. I kind of been looking around I don't think tire repair is the life for me. I think i'm gonna murder people on camera for money Gets up along the way.

You're like looking at the resume I have his phone over and address on here. I should turn this in It's crazy and again I think he's just one of many and that's what makes this story so terrifying you can take one of them off the street This is a worldwide problem people make these snuff films Sell and distribute them and they're still out there They'll constantly be out there and they'll definitely never be stopped as long as we tell ourselves that snuff isn't real as long as we believe that lie They will operate and they will never stop until their customers run out of money Or they run out of victims Deadrabbitradio.gmail.com is going to be our email address. You can also hit us up at facebook.com slash deadrabbitradio. TikTok is at deadrabbitradio Deadrabbit radio is the daily paranormal conspiracy.

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