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Discover [email protected] when a family wakes up at the same time in the middle of the night, they have no idea they're about to come face to face with an extraterrestrial threat. Then we take a look at the story of a boy also trying to get a good night's sleep. But instead he is woken up not by horrors from beyond the stars, but by his own bladder. He has to go to the bathroom.
But when he creeps out of bed and begins headed down the hallway to use the restroom, something's waiting for him. Something hiding in the darkness. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of dad Rabbit Radio.
I'm your host, Jason Wagner. I'm having a great day. Hope you guys have a great day too. Hope you guys are having tons of fun doing whatever you're doing.
One more quick reminder. This is the last week of new episodes until pretty much the end of August. I think new episodes are gonna come out like August 29th. I have a three week vacation planned and I'll be leaving the state.
I won't have a microphone with me, so hopefully nothing too crazy happens. I mean, I'd love for aliens to reveal themselves to humanity, but maybe not the next three weeks. But someone who wants to ruin my vacation. Someone who hopes aliens abduct me as I'm flying out to California.
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Like a Hummer. What's a bunny Hummer? Bunny Hummer. Nah, never mind how much it Sasha easily warning come up with new vehicles and I forget all the old wood I forgot we had a bicycle.
Haven't used that a long time. Max R. I'm gonna go ahead and touch the keys. The Jason jalopy, though.
Go ahead and drive us out of dead Red Radio command. Take us all the way out to New York. Bunny bicycles on the hood. We might use that.
We're headed out to New York, specifically. Brewster. New York. Like Monkey Brewster.
It's October 27, 1989. It's late at night. We're standing out in the bushes of this house, the seemingly ordinary house that holds a seemingly ordinary family. We're going to call them.
Bruce is the dad. These names we're making up. Marie is the wife. They have two sons, Gary and Phil.
Bruce wakes up to find himself wandering around the living room. Last thing he remembers was going to bed. But now he's walking around the living room in the middle of the night. All the lights are on, and he can't figure out why he's there.
He can't figure out who left the lights on. He's like, what? I was just in bed. What is going on?
And that's when his wife Marie walks in and she's like, honey, why are you awake? Why am I awake? What am I in the living room? And he's like, I don't know.
I was just asking myself the same question. What's going on? And then Gary, one of their sons, walks in and he's like, mom, dad? What?
Why are my lights on? And he's like, I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out myself. What are you doing up, sport?
He's like, I don't know. Last thing I remember is sleeping in bed. And I'm walking around the living room. And just then, Bill comes running down the stairs.
Their bedrooms are upstairs. He comes running down the stairs and he's like, mom, dad. Hey, Gary. There's a UFO outside.
So I won't say stuff starting to make sense to them, but they do, kind of. Maybe it's all walking around the middle of the night, all the lights are on and something to do with UFO outside. Now, what I find interesting about the story is that they want to see the ufo, which, of course, you ever sit in a room with some guy, runs and goes, there's a UFO outside. You're gonna stop what you do.
You're a medic. You're all, like, saving some guy's life. And then someone's like, hey, there's a UFO outside. Yeah, you can stop bleeding your own self and run outside to see ufo.
I think in most cases you would always run insight to see the ufo. Unless the person who was yelling at was always pulling pranks. You're like, ah, it's the whole, it's the whole UFO objection. Prank again.
He's like, no, no, I'm serious this time. Look at, they corded my butthole out with a laser beam. You're really committing to the bit. Or if you were in the middle of nowhere and some guy you didn't know came to your house, it was knocking on your door.
You're in this cabin, you're on vacation, all of a sudden, bro, you gotta come out, there's a UFO out here. You're not gonna know that. The most well known UFO researcher in the world. Like, I don't know.
That might be a wrong turn hillbilly. I don't know. No, not a wrong turn, hillbilly. I'm just telling you there's a UFO outside.
You should come outside, look at the UFO, would you? I probably wouldn't. Why wouldn't the UFOs blast away cities? And I was like, well, you know, I probably could have avoided a painful death, but I thought there was a wrong turn hillbilly.
What world's wrong? I always assume everyone watches the exact same movies I do. I'm not a wrong turn hillbilly. There's really UFO outside.
I'd be skeptical. Well, what Bruce does, I thought this was interesting. His kid comes down and says, guys, there's a UFO outside. They go into the basement and then look out the basement window to see the ufo.
Which on one hand, yeah, I mean, that's safe, right? The more distance you can put between you and a UFO is probably good because you think, I woke up in the middle of the night. It's not like they were just sitting there watching television and some guy says he's a UFO outside. They can, I think, kind of gather that something's going on, something not great is going on.
So they go down the basement and they look out the window. And what they see, I mean, surprise, surprise, they can't see the ufo. But the good thing about it is you're a little bit safer. The bad thing is that UFOs in the sky and now you're underground.
They look out the window and they don't see the actual craft, but what they do see is this red light shining down from above. Like outside the world is illuminated in this red light. You can tell it's being projected from above the house and it illuminates the entire Area in this red glow for about a minute. It was a really long time.
Really afraid you're about to get detected by aliens. I mean, I think just if someone broke it in my house and stood there for a minute, it would be the longest minute of my life. And they just turned and walk away. I was like, what's that all about?
Well, yeah, this kind of happens here. The light shuts off, the red glow disappears. And at that point, Bruce says, I gotta see what's going on here. I gotta see exactly what's going on here.
So he leaves the basement and then walks out of the house. And what he sees is a black triangle shaped craft. And in the center of it, on the underside of this ufo, there was a red light. The UFO eventually vanishes or flies away.
It doesn't say specifically how it left. It's not still up there to this day. You're like, oh, yeah, Bruce, New York, that's the place. The triangle over the barn, the triangle over the house.
It left the area. What happened was later on, as these guys, as his family was kind of discussing what happened, they started to see some similarities because remember, it's not just a ufo. They all woke up. They're all kind of wandering around the house.
Phil, the youngest, the one who came down the stairs going, guys, it's a ufo. He said that he woke up and what he saw was two what he called little men, which could be great aliens, or it could have been an alien race that looked human. But he described him as, quote, little men in his bedroom. Phil wakes up to see two little men in his bedroom.
And then a third little man walked right through his bedroom wall. And then he doesn't remember anything after that. Bruce and Marie started talking and, you know, trying to figure out what it could have been. Bruce says, you know what?
I last thing I really remember going to sleep and then I wake up in the living room because I didn't have this weird dream, now that I think about it. I had this dream that there were these little bald men with big round eyes, which is definitely closer to a classical gray alien. They're usually described as having almond shaped eyes, but, you know, I'm not gonna have an equipment on the details. Alien grafted to.
I was like, what? That's not real. Their eyes are too round. And again, they might have just been a different race of human aliens.
But Bruce said, I had a dream that there are these little bald men with big round eyes. And I was walking down a long dark corridor and Marie looks at her Husband and says, honey, I had a dream where I saw these little bald headed men with big round eyes and I was walking down a long dark corridor as well. So they both had the same dream. And at this point, you know, you're putting dream into air quotes.
They were sleeping in the same room. Kind of makes sense that they had the same experience, that they were both abducted. What's interesting is in this narrative we never know what Gary remembered, which means a couple different things. One, he didn't remember anything.
Two, nothing happened to him, right? One, something happened. He doesn't remember it too. Nothing happened to him, but he was walking around in the living room with the other people.
They have no idea why they're in the living room. Three, is that he was abducted. He doesn't remember it, but he doesn't want to talk about it. So then you just kind of have to hope that wasn't the worst case scenario.
Or four, that the person who wrote up this report didn't include it for one reason or another. Gar's experience. And that's where we get to this. So I found this story on thinking about a docs.com, i really love this resource.
It's basically a warehouse of alien encounters, UFO sightings and all that stuff. We've used it consistently over the show. Fantastic. It's one of those small miracles that I found this website over the course of the show.
What's interesting is what I like to do, right? I try to do as much research as we can do. Like yesterday's episode about the bird bridge, you know, instead of just telling you a little ghost story, start like why is it called this? What happened?
Was anyone investigated? And that's how that episode really got filled out. We got a lot of really cool information. The best stuff about that bird bridge story isn't the thing we got on shadowlands.net, it's the stuff I got researching the Paranormal Research Group and paranormal where they're underground researchers.
So that's really what made yesterday's story to me a really cool one, was that that extra stuff that other people did. So whenever I see a story, I go, let's verify this as much as we can. Let's look into the people who wrote the story. Let's look at all that stuff.
This was written up by someone going by the name Philip J. In Broadno and a co author named Marianne Horrigan. They wrote it for UFO Universe, the winter issue in 1996. Like, okay, you know, maybe I'll get a copy of the magazine.
We'll see how somebody's like, I really like to dig into this stuff. Let's find out who these people are. So here's the. Here's the thing, Jason.
We expect you. We expect you to do the extra research. We expect you to bring us stuff. But come on, man.
So here's the thing. I look up. I have some mixed feelings about this. Let's talk about this, though.
I look up Philip J. And Bragno, and he's written a couple books. One of them was interesting, was this book, nonfiction, about the US Government enlisting gins to spy on the Middle East. So the US government is working with jinns to supplement their Middle east intelligence and how Saudi Arabia is in on Anonymous.
I was like, this is fascinating. I might need to buy this book even more. I might need to read it. There's a lot of Philip J.
And Brogno. Very respected UFO researcher. He's done everything from write books to do speaking tours, to be on the television show Ancient Aliens. He's a high level UFO researcher.
He's very well known in the community, Very well respected in the community until the year 2011. In 2011, he wrote a book with one of his co authors. I don't know if it was Marianne or someone else, but I'm pretty sure it was the gin book. He'd been working on this for decades, crafting his career.
Right. It's hard to break through in this stuff. It's hard to break through in this field. In 2011, he was outed as lying about his college degree.
He said he went to mit. Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Is that what that stands for? And he said that he went there, he got a degree.
He got a degree in ufology or whatever it was. And he'd been telling people that for his entire career. Well, somebody fact checked it. Somebody fact checked it.
And MIT's like, what? No, we don't know. What you say was again, Philip J. And Brogno.
No, we don't have any record of that guy ever getting a degree here. So you go, okay, he lied about getting his college degree. It's not the best thing in the world to lie about. But as far as lies go, it's not that bad.
If you're talking about stuff that's insane, they shouldn't lie at all. That's part of my issue with this. When you're talking about stuff that is ridiculous on the face, right? I believe in this stuff, but I understand how insane a lot of it sounds.
The people who are reporting it should not Lie about their college degree, because what's the point of that too? He goes, well, actually, I went to American River College. I went to a community college. I got a two year degree.
But then I turned my passion of the Bazaar. I became a huge researcher. Totally fine. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten his first two assignments, but research.
A lot of normal researchers don't have a degree in the field or any degree. I only have an associate's degree. I don't have a bachelor's degree. I don't care degree.
You're throwing your phone into the water. You're like, never listen this podcast again. I'll never listen to anyone again. Not even get a phone call.
But here's the thing. So line pressure. College degree. It's probably something that you can put on your resume.
I'm not recommending it, but you could. This one's a lot more slimy. He was also caught for now, allegedly for this one. I couldn't really find a bunch of stuff to back this up.
He has been accused of what's called stolen valor, where he lied about having a military background. That's. To me, honestly, that is. I mean, I can't say it's unforgivable.
If my buddy said, hey, I never really fought in Nam, I'd be like, okay. I mean, doesn't personally my bodyguard, right? I was like, oh, you fought Nam? Yeah, I'll pay you money to guard my body like you did.
But it's just kind of slimy, right? Who cares if you got a college degree or something like that? But by telling everyone that you fought in a war and you never did or it's not even like he wasn't listening. Oh, yeah, no, I was over in Kabul.
No, he was like, apparently wasn't in the military at all. That's actually a crime. You can lie all day long about having a college degree. I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not 100% on this. But if I walked around town and told people I had a doctorate in computer science, I'm never gonna have a knock on my door. If I try getting a job that is a licensed job that requires a certain degree and I get that job that actually you can get in trouble for, there's certain. But if you go to Walmart, you go, hey, I have a bachelor's degree in botany.
And then they find out that you don't. You're not gonna get arrested. You will get arrested. If you walk around town telling everyone you're A veteran.
There are certain things you can't lie about. It's really interesting. Here's the question. He ended up quitting UFO research in disgrace.
He's pretty much not put out anything since 2011. Very, very well respected up to the point that he got outed. I don't know why he got outed. Sometimes it can be sub the Skull and Valor, a thing I totally understand because there are actually groups that look for that.
But him like getting outed, as far as not having that degree, it could be someone going, well, you know, I got a degree, I worked really hard to get that degree. So I don't want someone to get credit for it. That's whatever. I mean, I think it's kind of dumb.
Personally, I'm a water. You don't have an associate's degree. Boo. Someone might have a beef with him.
Someone might have been like a skeptic organization trying to whittle down the organization. I wonder what the motivation was behind outing him. It doesn't really matter. I mean, he did lie about it.
I'm just kind of curious as far as that goes. Apparently that book that he had just published with his co writer, Philip, just disappeared. Not in a paranormal way, because then he would be back in the community. They're like, why you teleport?
Who cares about your lies? And his co author was kind of left in the back and he was that gin book like it had just come out. What? The reason why I'm telling you all that is one, I wouldn't be doing my due diligence as a paranormal researcher if I didn't let you know any of that.
I didn't know any of that when I saw the story. And then go to docs.com I just go, wow, that's really creepy. Like, imagine waking up in the middle of night, you're surrounded by your family, they don't know why they woke up. And it turns out to be a UFO thing.
I thought that was really interesting. Once I found out that he had gotten in trouble for this stuff, it would be bad faith for me to cover the story as much as I like it and not mention it, because I easily could have done that. And then two or three people need to come and be like, oh, yeah, it's a fraud, right? I did, but it ruined the good story.
So of course I'm gonna tell you that. But then there's also this question I think we gotta ask. This guy's been a paranormal researcher for decades. He's dealt with a ton of stories like this.
Does it make the story itself fake? There's not really a clear answer to that because first off, he has co authors with a lot of this stuff. So is the family made up? Did the family exist in the encounter?
Exist. But it happened to be researched by a man who told two lies. They were fairly big lies, sure, but at what point do you throw everything out? It's almost like a.
I don't know if there's a clear answer. You could say everything you ever researched was fake because he lied about two things. And you. I wouldn't agree with that.
I personally wouldn't agree with that. I think a lot of people lie about a lot of things. If you're a botanist and you discover a new plant, but on the way to discover the new plant, you saw someone that you had seen in 20 years, and they're like, hey, Joey, what are you up to, bro? And you go, oh, yeah, I'm a CEO now.
Covered in brass and dirt. You've been rolling around with plants all they want. Like, what? You're CEO?
Yeah. Yeah, man. I made a million dollars on bitcoin just today. And I added it to my $500 million that I made previously.
I'm the CEO of Bitcoin. You totally make it up. You're like, what? How does bitcoin work?
I don't know. You know, being the CEO, I don't really pay attention how it works. I just know that I make a million dollars a day off bitcoin. Well, it's nice running into you.
See you later. And then Joey gets in his car and he drives away. And then he gets out of it, and he's walking through some nature park and he sees a new fern. He goes, I'm gonna name this fern after me the Jocus, the Joachist firm.
And he's in all these botany magazines and stuff like that. He's a big bot star. He's got groupies coming after him. They call himself groundies.
They're covered in mud. They're like, you can plant your seed in me any day. Joey's like, man, that's great. But then it comes out.
This is totally not even the same thing. So lying to some old friend that you're a millionaire is quite different than trying to convince people you fought in a war. You're just trying to talk about a false equivalency. One of them, you're just bragging.
You're kind of an idiot. You're bragging to someone. The other one you're saying, and you're researching this stuff, they should be 100 honest. I agree.
They should be honest. We're covering the most bizarre things. I think there is a higher threshold of honesty. I think two stuff that's more subjective, say history, where you can interpret things.
Someone's a historian, but it turns out he's told these other big lies in their life. But this one. No, no, you have to believe us something. Yeah, I get it, I get it.
I'm just curious because I think it doesn't automatically discount all of his work. It doesn't make us have to look at it from an angle, though. Is this true? So, yeah, no, I mean, I just don't.
I just don't think all of his research needs to be thrown out. I do think we need to talk about it. I would have not been doing my due diligence had I not brought it up to you. And again, this is the reason why I tried to go the extra mile with these stories.
I can find creepy stores. I love creepy stores, love this weird stuff. But I like to verify as well, because we find stuff like that. And as paranormal researchers and paranormal enthusiasts, we do have to take that into account.
Max Rez, let's go and touch the keys. The world famous carbonic copter. We're leaving behind this house. Why don't you fly us all the way out to another house?
We're headed all the way up to this house. We're about to meet a young boy, let's call him Josh. We don't have an exact age. Let's say, like.
Let's just say 13. You know, just pop my head. 13. One night, Josh was hanging out in his house, hanging out down in the living room.
And he really, really, really has to go to the bathroom. All of a sudden, oh, I gotta pee. I gotta go. I gotta go.
I'm assuming he's playing video games because that is the only time that you put off having to go to the bathroom. The bathroom's upstairs in his house. And the way that it's laid out is that the bathroom and the toilet are in separate rooms. So it's kind of connected together, but separate rooms between the bathroom and the toilet.
He goes upstairs and he goes. I have to walk past the bathroom to get to the toilet. So when I turn and I look into the bathroom, I notice that the shower curtain is half closed. He's looking at it.
He sees the shower. He sees the shower curtains half closed. And that's all that he sees. He's looking into the bathroom.
He's Looking at the shower. He's looking at the half closed shower curtain. But in his mind's eye is how Josh describes this. And I know exactly what he's talking about.
This happened to me. I'll put episode in the show notes. You're seeing the 3D world in front of you, but then in your mind's eye, kind of overlaid against it, like an old transparency projector that I used to use in school, there's another 3D object. You can't see it, but you know it's there.
Your mind is processing this information. Josh looks into the shower and he sees behind the half closed shower curtain is a man. He's standing there in the shower and his head is poking out from behind the shower curtain. He's staring directly at Josh.
He's not only staring at Josh, he's smiling at Josh. This white smile that exposes yellowed teeth. Josh sees this man peeking out from behind the shower curtain. His eyes were yellow and red, which stuck out against his pale skin and crazy black hair.
Josh doesn't see it, but he sees it. He also has to go to the bathroom. He also has to go to the bathroom. And because he can't see it, because his mind can kind of process it, like just imagining, bro, there's nothing there.
He runs past the bathroom, gets into the toilet area and tells himself, it's just your imagination, bro. There's nothing out there, just your imagination goes to the bathroom. When he comes back out, he doesn't see it. He doesn't see it in real life.
He doesn't see it in his mind's eye. He doesn't. He might not even look in that direction, honestly, he should probably scoot it out. But he goes, I'm not gonna say anything like that doesn't make any sense.
Because when you tell someone I saw something last night, you go, oh, what was it? You gotta say, no, it was in my mind's eye. Most people are gonna go, it's just your imagination. And that's what he figures.
It's just his imagination. The next morning, in this household, not that morning, but the next one, Josh is hanging out at home and his sister, who we will call Melissa, who will also say, you know, early teens, we don't know. We don't know the age of it, Melissa comes up to Josh and says, hey, can I talk to you about something? Josh is like, yeah, sure.
Kind of weird, right? When's the last time you had a deep conversation with one of your siblings? We fought all the time. Melissa goes, Josh, I need to talk about something.
It's gonna sound super weird, but do you got a minute? Josh is like, yeah, sure, yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean, sis?
Melissa says, hey, do you think that things that we see, not like cc, but, like, things that we might. Trying to think of the right word. Like, you know, things we might see in our head, like our mind's eye, I think, is that term. Like, you think that sometimes we can see things like that that aren't really there.
Josh is like, okay, what you got? Where's this going? Can you give me any detail? And Melissa goes, Melissa said last night.
So really, the night after Josh had his experience in the bathroom, because this is two mornings later. Melissa said, last night I. I was really thirsty. I got really, really thirsty.
So I went to go to the kitchen to get a drink. I walked into the kitchen and I didn't see anything. But in my mind's eye. I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I walk in the kitchen and I see.
In my mind's eye, I see this man halfway coming out of the fridge. Like, he was leaning out of the fridge, and he was just staring at me. He had this grin, this big grin on his face and this disgusting yellow teeth. He was pale.
He had this black hair. His eyes, Josh, his eyes were just, like, red and yellow. It was like he was coming out of the fridge and he was staring at me. And to be honest, I didn't go to get a drink of water.
If I could ask the Lacey where. He's like, oh, he's not in the bathroom. I have to pee my pants. She said, I saw him leaning out of the fridge, and I was like, all of a sudden, I don't need to drink water.
Like, I need to get out of here. Even though I know it's not real, Josh, Even though I didn't actually see it in my head, I saw it in my mind's eye. I knew it there, but it wasn't there. Do you think.
What do you think about that? Like, what was that? And obviously, as Melissa's telling the story, Josh is having a physical reaction to it. His jaws like.
Like, he can't believe that she saw the same thing just one night after he saw it. And he said, you know what's interesting actually, is I'm looking at this again. Josh did not see this thing at night. It looks like he saw it during the day again.
Sometimes those are details that are hard to pull out of the story if they don't specify it. Like, he Says he was him. The first four lines of this is be me really need the toilet run upstairs bathroom, toilet are in separate rooms. That's verbatim how he wrote it because I got this off the export.
So the first time he saw it was during the day, and the second time when Melissa saw it was at night. But whatever the case, it's super interesting, right? You have these two siblings who are seeing the same entity both times. It's kind of coming out of a particular area, a well trafficked area.
The kitchen and the bathroom are probably the busiest parts of any house. They saw this entity. Josh ended this. He posted this online anonymously.
And we're making up the name Josh. But Josh ended this by saying, quote, I have no idea how that was possible. I've never had anything like that happen before or since. Seeing the spooky man was a bit creepy, but hearing my little sister describe the exact same thing the next day will probably stick with me forever, unquote.
It's a terrifying story. And honestly, there's not a ton of stuff to analyze with this one. It's kind of just a spooky. It's kind of just a spooky image.
I wanted to tell you something that would scare you, and I think this worked. It's very interesting. What I love, I'm not gonna go too long, and I'm not gonna go on too long about this because we gotta wrap it up. But what I always love about the paranormal is just how abstract things can be.
So we have this creepy guy. I mean, that's pretty basic. It looks like a monster. Looks like a demon peeking out from behind the shower curtain.
People, that's already enough, right? It could have been just a friendly little smurf. He still repeats yourself. Something peeking out from behind the shower curtain is creepy again.
Looking at my notes, this took place during the day, which is when seemingly took place during the day is a time you don't expect to see something like this. A monster. I would argue you never expect to see creepy. But then the sister said it was leaning out of the fridge.
So think about that as a visual. You're looking at a closed fridge in the real world, but in her mind's eye, the fridge was open. And that might seem like a small detail when we're talking about a yellow toothed freak in your kitchen. Like you could have been popping out of a blender.
It wouldn't matter. It still would have been terrifying. But think about that in the real reality, the one that we exist in the fridge, was closed. But for this mind's eye image to make sense, the fridge had to be opened enough that a body could be leaning out of it, let's say from the torso up to me.
It's those little details that add that extra layer of what is going on. I still would pull the story if she was walking downstairs and was sitting on the couch, or if it was staring at her through the kitchen window. But the fact that it was actually distorting reality so much that a physical object was in two different states at the same time, both closed and open, that really shows how deep this phenomenon goes. 90 of this stuff and I, you know, weed it out for the show is because I read these councils all day long.
I was walking down the hallway, I saw a shadow at the end of the hallway. That was it. I wake up in the middle of the night. My dead great aunt was standing at the bed.
I was driving down the road and I saw what looked like a man hanging from a noose off a high branch. That's 99 of ghost sightings. They're all terrifying, but they're normal in the world of ghosts. I'm not discounting them.
If you're experiencing them, that is the most exciting and terrifying ghost story you've ever heard, because you're in it. I'm not discounting them, but one thing that we like to do with this show, right, is to profile the weirdest of the weird. How is a fridge both open and closed at the same time? It can't be.
That's a physical law. It cannot happen. So what was that? Was that one reality on top of the other, like a transparency, like an overhead projector, and you're putting an image of a closed fridge and an image of an open fridge on top of it, and it's both open and closed at the same time.
So just from a physical issue like that, the story is just absolutely bizarre. Throw in the monster. And not just the monster. Not just a monster, because, again, if the dude who saw it first, if his sister had never said anything, he wouldn't have told us, he wouldn't have posted it online.
He would have always thought it was just my imagination. I was just kind of creeped out. But for his sister to see the exact same thing a day later, now it is something real. And in a way, in a way, it makes it worse that they never saw it again, which is weird, it's counterintuitive.
You wouldn't want to see it again. But if you both saw it just a day apart, and you never discussed it with each other. But then you talked about it. You guys saw the same thing.
And then you began to see it every once in a while. You could categorize it. You could go with anyone in this house playing with a Ouija board. Did someone drive down a quote, unquote cursed road or anyone go ghost hunting and bring something back?
Is there something in the house that's affecting us? Is it a demon? Is it a spirit? Is it an interdimensional entity?
You can start to look at things. That's what's going on in the house, as well as seeing this entity multiple times and start to figure out what it is and what it wants. But you see it once, Your sister sees it once. One, you're never gonna have any idea of what it was or why it was there.
There's just not enough information to ever figure it out. Two, in a way, the longer the pause, the more fear of the jump scare. If you started seeing the thing every couple weeks, in a way, you would kind of get used to it. Doesn't mean it's not less terrifying.
But the fact that it can manifest twice in such a short period of time, and then we goes by, another week goes by, another week goes by. You don't see it, Your sister doesn't see it. I think there would be this thing. It's like pulling a string.
What's the word taught? It's like pulling back a bowstring. And it's gaining more and more energy. I think in a way you would worry for, like, there would be a worry that it's gonna pop up again, which may supersede actually seeing again.
I had a good friend of mine named Katie Kate. She was like 8 now, but she always said the scariest thing to her was looking out her bedroom window or looking at anyone, really. But late at night, looking at her window and seeing a man standing in the yard. And I go, and then, like what he likes through the door.
She goes, no, no, no, no. He doesn't move at all. He just stands there. She said, the fact that I don't know why he's there is what makes that image so terrifying to me.
The second he decides on a course of action. Now I know his intent. Now I can deal with it. But him just standing out in the yard, staring at me.
I don't know why he's there. I don't know what he's gonna do, and I don't know what I need to do to protect myself. Pulling that bowstring tight Right. That suspense.
And I think that could happen in this type of event as well. Very interesting. Spirit entity. Again, we don't even know what it is.
We never heard the story. If only one person saw it. And what's interesting, we've talked about this on past episodes. It's possible that other people in the household are seeing it too.
Maybe the dad saw it. The dad's not gonna say anything. It's terrifying. It doesn't scare anybody.
We have stories like that where people experience paranormal events. You got four people in a house, and they're not talking to each other. Not like they're being rude or fighting, but they're having paranormal events. They're not telling anyone, anyone else in the house what's going on.
Eventually, it gets to a boil. Babies floating around the room, rigging on fire. Someone goes, oh, yeah, I guess I should have told you guys. A couple weeks ago, I started hearing footsteps in the attic.
I didn't tell anyone because, you know, I don't believe in ghosts. We do see that happen. So other people may have experienced this thing. But this is one of the stories that I love it because it's creepy.
It's a creepy image. But I also love it because it has just that weird twist, the fridge being both opened and closed at the same time. Which. It's funny because I go, that's impossible.
We talk about humans and ghosts and ufos, aliens, all sorts of stuff, but sometimes you come across the detail and you're like, how did that even look? Because, remember, she only saw it in her mind's eye. In her real vision, the fridge is closed, but in her mind's eye, it's open. Open enough for this humanoid to stick his body out of.
So, like, how is. You're basically looking at two things at the same time that are different. It's cognitive dissonance, but with your eyeballs. Eyeball dissonance.
So crazy story, terrifying story. It's the type of stuff we like to talk about here on Dead Rad Radio. The other thing we like to do on this show is turn on the air conditioners. I once again run out of time because it's 100 degrees.
I feel like I'm working in a nuclear reactor sometimes. And they're like, jason, you gotta get out the radio. The radon's too high. And I was like, no.
Three more sentences, sir. I can do it. And I'm all burned up. And that's where I'm at.
Burned up right now. I'm gonna be the man with the yellow eyes. I'm definitely gonna be living in a fridge after I get done recording this one. [email protected] is gonna be our email address.
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