This is a great music podcast. I know I forgot what I was going to say. My thoughts about Star Wars. Hello and welcome to WNC Original Music, episode 132, the nine-cylinder airplane episode.
This week on the podcast, we have Modern Strangers returning. And this is kind of a sad episode because Modern Strangers, at the time of this recording, have just announced that they are going to go their separate ways musically, still remain great friends. But Modern Strangers, at least for now, will be no more. I don't usually like to announce live shows on the podcast because you might be listening to it later.
But if you happen to hear this by September 25th, 2021, Modern Strangers Farewell concert will be at French Broad Outfitters. That will be on September 25th. That's a Saturday. Make sure to come out and see that.
Go to ModernStrangers.com for more details. Had a lot of fun talking with these guys. If you've heard the first couple of episodes, you'll see what I'm talking about. This is going to be a very long episode because it was slated to be two episodes, but I kind of dithered around until they broke up.
It's probably, I hope that's not the reason they broke up. But I think you will enjoy it. We have a mixture of live and studio songs as well. You can still hear them.
And I assume you'll be able to keep hearing them at ModernStrangers.com. And also, there'll be links to their music, both to stream and download in the show notes. And right now, here is ModernStrangers. I wrote this song for an English project.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's a bit of a chill, you know that you're so real. My shaves are falling by.
I was trying to give them this man's love right here. Troy, I think you need to take this one. Yeah. Would you actually like to give me full title this song?
We always read it as wallpaper. Yeah, full title this song is one flu out of the wallpaper. I have no shame in talking about what this song is about. Please do.
Because I wrote it for an English class in community college. I wrote it. It was part of this essay that I had to write about the story that we read by Charlotte Perkins Gilman called The Yellow Wallpaper. And I'd also just finished reading One Floo Out of the Cuckoo's Nest.
And so the title was just kind of a snattering of the two. But anyway, we had to give this essay about the short story. And I asked her instead of my teacher, I asked her instead of writing a paper if I could write a song about it and perform it for class because everyone was giving these presentations. And she was super unbridled with that.
So that is what I did. And my slideshow was just the lyrics to the song. I played it in front of the whole class. And I felt super weird.
But now I play it in front of like 20 people sometimes. It's great. Upwards of 20 people. Upwards of 20 people.
Troy, what did you get on the project? What was the grade? Oh, I got the highest grade. The highest grade.
I'm an example of class. That's the C? Yeah. Community college.
She said this is the highest grade I can give you. Yeah. The highest grade possible. This is the highest grade I can possibly give you.
I don't know about you guys. I actually told me she had a young teacher. She actually told me she doesn't give the grades. You earned the grades.
You know, part of my motivation was the fact that I had the hots like crazy for this English teacher. Oh, what was her name? I didn't know this part. I've never told you guys this part of the story.
But that was certainly part of my motivation. We're not recording. It's a WNC music exclusive. Yeah.
First we learned his real last name and he had the hots for some old ladies. Yes, for you lucky listeners. I'm assuming she was really old. Dude, she was like maybe like four years older than me.
Nice. So I really enjoyed the song. That was a good collection of sounds there. I mean, should we get to a construction site and do this?
If I could whistle. Troy's songs are real like bluesy and jazzy. And this one's a fun one to play. It's a fun one to play on bass especially.
I have a bass song as well. You do have a bass song as well. How many frets? This is not far up on the nakas.
It's still pretty good. Yeah. It's solidly in like frets five, seven somewhere in there. Cool.
I think you start playing an octave up. You almost feel like a guitar or something. Yeah. But it's a fun song.
It's a fun song for you. You know anybody? It's got a bit of a different groove than a lot of other songs. And I think it's kind of fun because this one usually gets people up and dancing but in a different way.
A little less frenetic, a little bit more soul flue booty shake and kind of dancing in the song. Can I tell you Troy that I am always afraid I'm going to play this song too fast? Every time you start I think, don't play too fast. Can I tell you that I've been playing this song for like six years and I still, if I mess up even one chord, like I'm thrown off for the rest of the song.
I'm sure that David, I'm sure that David, I mean I paid you back with Rainglout because it doubles back on itself too. But this is a progression. It's a progression that doubles back. It's not hard.
But if you're in the middle of it and you lose where you are, you pretty much have to wait until the next pass to jump back in. So all right. So jumping back to something you said a second ago. I know you were joking when you said we need another guitar player.
But jumping back to another reason why I initially wanted to join the band. A, to be your bass player and B, because at the time you had a mandolin player. When I was so, or maybe you didn't have them at the time, but the recordings you guys gave me and he was in them. And that was a huge reason why I wanted to join the band.
So the two reasons you wanted to join the band were not. Also, I joined the band and I was like, what's the other thing? And there's no mandolin. I'm playing the guitar.
And the guy wants my driver's license. Go ahead. Can I interest you in a nice corny says thump's up. T-shirts.
It's a good consolation. I got the old modern strangers, they can switch. So, and I do think that Mando Dan, as we call him, deserves a shout out to, he's a lovely, very nice, even being and fact, he is more handsome than all of us put together. So, it would really be great if he were still in the band because we would just plaster his face all over everyone.
I do need some help in the looks department. It's a big load to carry myself. I feel like our sex appeal took a big hit without the handsome Dan. It's a little lacking.
That's why he's doing all the pictures. Yeah. We photoshopped him in sometimes. He's got a lot of nicknames.
Mando Dan and he's got a couple more, but we don't say this on the air. Much like try, I don't know his last name either. He's in my phone as Dan Dolan because you know, you know, you're a big guy. He's in line as Mando Dan.
I just have a picture of him. Actually, he might be in my phone as Dan D&D because I played Dungeons & Dragons with him. Don't put that in the cup like this. D&D Dan.
What can't he do? So, he's Mando Dan. Mando Dan. D&D Dan.
There we go. There we go. Dan, Dan, Amanda, Mando. Last time I saw my refer to him as Dan Dlorian.
Dan Dlorian, it just came out. That's pretty good. That's not funny. Does that sense of subject?
The Mandalorian? That's not funny. He did say it very defensively. I think he heard it.
That's a high take on the Mandalorian. I really have a strong dislike for Star Wars. 4-3-6! It's all there is.
Screw Baby Yoda. I'm sorry, we don't know what that is. We're rockin' all of your says. I will say Baby Yoda is totally a corporate ploy.
You know what, though? I'm down with the Mandalorian quality show. I've never seen an episode. It is better than any of the other Star Wars stuff that's coming recently.
It's pretty good. This is a great music podcast. I know what I was gonna say. I hear my thoughts about Star Wars.
Once again, people like to abbreviate my song titles because I try to make them as long as possible. This song is not called Rolling Hills? It's called Rolling Hills in Sweet Dreams. Oh, well.
This is a subpar script. We're learning a lot about you today. I don't know how you didn't know that. Again, I don't listen to words.
It's listed as the title for my music video. I knew that's not only because I got to do you a minute song with your other band. I have in my notes, Troy can talk about his other band during this song. Thank you so much for the permission.
What about you? This is a song you do with your other band. I believe it's called Rolling Hills. Rolling Hills in Sweet Dreams, actually.
Yes, I do this with my other group, Nastiros, which Kate Ryan is also involved in from time to time. She happened to be at the venue and performed this song with us at 5 Walnut on this particular evening. Yeah, super fun song. It's minor, so it has that darker feel, but it maintains an upbeat tempo.
It's very danceable. Honestly, I think it works better with this group than it does in Pronunciation. Pronunciation tends to be a little bit more dark and brooding and moody. Whereas this band's version of it retains a lot more energy.
Alex is a lot better. You're welcome. Alex and I play faster. So Courtney and I like to call ourselves the punk brothers as a play on Motowns, the Funk Brothers.
And that makes us so much cooler. It does make it so much cooler. The Funk Brothers wasn't very cool. James Jamerson, that guy's a slouch.
What a nice guy. Super uncool guy. But he didn't play the pick, so there's that. So yeah, we started.
But yeah, so Courtney and I, our roots are with punk and kind of up tempo, fast music. Our inclination is always to kind of speed things up. But I'm not sure if it's a better Troy Brink to us, we make them faster. That's what we do.
Not necessarily better, but for sure. Not in a good way. I can't play slow. Troy, your pronunciation is an awesome video for the song that Will also did.
Yes, he did. Will Lockleston of Kinetescape Media did a phenomenal music video for this song, which you can find on the Pronunciation page in the future when I get my shit together. But yeah, he was such a frickin' professional about it. I didn't even really, other than just recording music and all that, everything else, he drew back to the spreadsheets, man.
Like he had every shot planned out to the second, like, total professional. Amazing video. I was super, super grateful to kind of have him. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm super grateful Will. This song is also hard. It's very difficult to play. It's very fun.
It's a very fun guitar. Mostly. We've been playing it for, I remember it was hard when you showed it to us. And then we've been playing it for almost three years, and I think we practiced it every practice almost before a show just because we have to keep it.
We have to keep it on the cellist for a show. We always have to keep it on the side. It's pretty consistent that we need to rehearse it. And as is the case with the other group.
And just for myself solo, honestly, if I don't keep up with it, it's easy to let slip. It's one of those songs. Did you write it hard on purpose to show off? Yes.
Yeah. We get it, really great play. I don't know if you know much about guitar players, but pretty much everything they do is to show off, you know. That's true.
Should we also mention that Kate is super talented and awesome? Kate is also super talented and awesome. Yeah. I kind of feel like her head's big enough though.
I mean, she probably gets a... I thought that was, I thought that was according to the... Kate Bryan also plays with Mr. David Langer.
He is feeling my thunder here, but yes. Sorry. Go ahead. Another wonderful band, the Pitching Fitz in town.
And we do a lot of classic country. Actually, we do kind of classic country all the way up through the 90s, which can be kind of fun. Kate Bryan plays on this one. Just continue where you were.
Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's a good place. And action.
Yeah. We played songs at Five Old Knits once, right? Yeah. Somebody else is there.
I don't remember her name, but so I think you and Kate are in a group together as well, aren't you? Yes. I was just telling you guys. Don't break the fourth...
Smooth transition, brother. I can't believe you're reading all of this. I'll shit it wrong, Card. You guys are terrible.
You're terrible. Never seen so many three-but-but-t terrible. So that's why I should be elected. It's really helpful.
Like, every time I try to speak, if you guys just take turns, like, say that time back out. At the same time, that'd be amazing. And go. So, for rolling hills, we should probably mention that Kate is awesome and super talented.
Yeah, that's helpful. I told everything about the pitching fits in the other... I think we're gonna wrap with you guys. Yeah, I think you might have.
Yeah. So anyway, the pitching fits. We play here in town. We play classic country all the way up through 90s country, which can be kind of fun.
Kate's got an amazing voice for that type of thing, especially the love of when she jumps in and does Dolly Parton and I don't know if she totally owns a couple of me lutrex, you know, that kind of thing. So she's an amazing fiddle player as you'll hear on the recording, but yeah. Also... She's running her own kind of a violin sort of studio deal where she'll give out lessons.
She needs to use the word conservatory. Conservatory. Yeah, I have to talk to her about that next time I see her. Yeah, we should have her branding finished.
But also, especially about Carolina. She wants to capture the classical, but she also wants to get... The country, so she should call it fiddle sticks conservatory. That's pretty good.
I mean, we've pretty much all about her life bros. So, right on this now. Funnest sign, now that you mentioned fiddle sticks. When Pernouncyo's first formed, we briefly thought about calling ourselves Kate in the hot sticks.
That he did not make it. Yeah, strained. The other great thing about the pitching fits is that I get to reunite with my friends. I get to reunite with my good buddy Ben Menny.
And if it's even impossible, he's an even better guitar player now than when he was a modern stranger. I don't even know how that's possible. Yeah, he's fantastic. So, it's a lot of fun.
He brings a lot of energy to it. Would you say he aged like a fine box wine? That's a very apt description. Yeah.
I also have a sick drummer coming. There's a bunch of... Yeah, there's a guy that plays drums. No, he's alright.
He's good. He won't listen to me. And Brad, but he moved, so. Brad.
Fucking Brad's. I always break your heart. Anything about the song that you guys play? Little Goats.
Oh, right. I love Little Goats. My favorite part about Little Goats. I love it.
I've always had a heads like... I'm not gonna ask you what it's about. But it has a very theatrical narrative story, like a murder ballad. It's our darkest song.
I always think it's a dark song. Oh, you have no idea. Wow. I find it super interesting that you say that, Courtney, because you don't listen to lyrics.
Well, I mean, I made it. You can use it like this dark song. It's a very... I don't know.
It's a very... Yeah. I picture... I don't know.
This is one of my favorite songs. Every time I see it, I get really excited. It's got a great three part vocal part. It's just driving, and we're all singing on top of it.
I really like the recorded version of this song. We actually had Kate come into the studio, she recorded some violin in certain places. She is so talented. That's why she tells me.
If we say it one more time, she has to pay me. You guys give them Kate? Yeah. That's why we're here.
I gave them a lot of time. I was supposed to... I think we were entitled to half the royalties. From what?
It's next time it's original. Actually, they did write this one. So this is the first song I've ever co-written. Actually, I think I did write a song once in high school, but it was pretty bad.
So this is the first song since high school that I've co-written. I can't remember how it came up, but one time David and I... It was some weekday, and David and I were just going back and forth about a song idea. Literally, we're just texting line for line.
He would text one line, I would respond with a line, and then we got to a chorus. We wrote the lyrics back and forth one day via text. I think a couple months later, you came to practice with a new song, and it was that song, which you were singing on for a while. I was then told me that you had written it for my voice more.
So it's the only original that I sing lead on, and David and I co-wrote the lyrics. It's like how... Edit that out. It's 100% like that.
I'll say stuff on purpose. I'm going to say something you're going to need. Get ready to edit. No, it's true.
It's motherf***ing. It's just not very interesting. Alright, so... I did really...
Read it. This is after we had tracked the album and stuff. We do have a lot of new material now since we've been working on the album, so long. We actually have a lot of new material that's not on the album as well.
So this was in that first batch of stuff we started to write, I think, after the album was tracked, and we started to move forward. I feel like some of our... We're more of our influences and more of our own styles, because a lot of the stuff in the album is a lot of David's stuff that he had brought to us. This is more where we started to gel a bit more and bring our own stuff into it and our styles started to mesh a little bit more.
I like the song. It's real catchy, but it's also... I am always partial to stuff that's a bit more rock and roll, just driving, and I think that the song is like that. It always makes me think of Ted Leo and the pharmacist, which is a band that I really, really love.
The big influence on just my playing and just one of my favorite bands. And so I think that the song, for that reason, is great. It's kind of the first ones that we all put together. And everyone loves a singing drummer.
It's true. I'm told. My mom tells me. She got me sure that that's it.
Yeah, this was fun for me because it's the first song I've ever written with somebody else's voice in mind. So I pitched it higher than what I was comfortable singing, and it ended up being a lot of fun, and Courtney kills from the vocals for it. Yeah, it sounds great. I wish the story of this song was actually like everything you've said already, except that it started not as a song, but just you guys text each other back and forth, and you just happen to be rhyming.
And you're like, hey, this could be a song. We noticed that we're rhyming. What's up with that? Yeah.
What chord changes are you thinking of when you say it? Me too. Yeah, David and I actually, we tend to text in a... It's just what we do.
We call ourselves the pros, brothers. Oh, man, I'm stealing that. Band name called it. Hi, this is Mike Koya.
Thanks for checking out my new song Feel For You. It's a song that means a lot to me. I hope you enjoy it. More from Modern Strangers in just a few moments.
I want to remind you to check out their music at ModernStrangers.com and also that their farewell concert will be September 25th at French Broad Outfitters in Asheville, North Carolina. If you happen to be around at that time, make sure to come out. It's a great outdoor space. It's really cool.
Also, don't forget to subscribe to the podcast where we get your podcast. It just starts WNC original music or check the show notes for some links to various apps and websites where you can subscribe. As I mentioned before, this is a very long episode, so we're going to do two show breaks. Very excited about that.
I think it's my first time doing that. Usually after I do the show break, I think of something I should have put in much later, but now I get a second chance. I'm going to get a second chance at life. This is Hope Griffin and you're listening to WNC original music.
So listen to it or else. That's a nice shirt, man. So this is a song which the rest of the band kindly always says that I wrote, but I would say I started this song. I brought the seeds of it to the band and then we kind of worked on it from there.
David helped flesh it out because I tend to when I write stuff on bass. I tend to make a lot of quick changes and notes and chords and stuff because it's just more catchy and fun to play on bass, but it doesn't always accommodate vocals super well. So you guys kind of helped me stretch it out a bit and then we added a chorus that is awesome. That really opens up and then you guys do a three part harmony on it.
That sounds really good too. This song, you know, it's cool. In my previous band, I played a lot of like kind of corny stuff on bass or like double stop kind of stuff play with a pick and so I like to kind of play through things like that. So I kind of started it with that.
So it's a little just different and it's kind of a driving almost. It's probably as close to punk as we usually come. I love the fact of the song that it kind of features a lot of different things. It's got a great bass intro and then David has a really hooky verse in it and then yeah, it just totally goes and takes a left turn and Troy does the chorus.
I love that part about it. It's switching lead. Do I remember this that you first showed us this song at a campfire at your house? I'm just remembering it.
No, I think that's right. I think we were all hanging out in the backyard and I have a acoustic bass guitar that I break out for the campfire and stuff or just travel with sometimes. And playing that too, especially I write a lot of corny stuff on that acoustic bass because it's an acoustic bass and it just lends itself well to it. And where it lacks some of the low end and the low overtones and stuff.
It just makes me want to play on it a little bit differently. So yeah, I think I probably wrote it on that bass too. That song is usually one of the highlights of my son. Honestly, it's so much fun to play.
It's fast. It's punchy. It drives on my grooves the whole way through. Even in the chorus where it does open up a little bit, it's still got that same driving rhythm behind it.
The funny thing is though that it's again, we think of it as driving and fast, but it still super works at a low volume. We can play this in a quiet set. And it still totally works. Yeah.
Yeah. It could be a punk rock song or it could be a grooves and a metal song. Yeah, it's really melodic. Super melodic.
Modern Strangers acoustic sessions. Featuring the people coming this summer to a drive-in movie theater near you. Oh, I wanted to continue. Oh, no, no.
I felt like it was going to be a, what was it called? Oh, there's a movie house at the grindhouse. Like a grindhouse. Yeah.
Yeah. So that one was original. We're still working on it. Hands down.
Favorite song currently on the set list. Hands down. Black Hat is, I would say one of the newest songs in the set, David wrote it, brought it to us a couple months ago. And yeah, I would say it's probably my highlight of the set as well.
It just is unlike anything you've written before, David, and just has the best feel to it. Like, I mean, how to describe it. It's also a dark song, but not in the same way that little ghost is. It's like almost got a weird sort of spooky rockabilly vibe to it.
I was just trying to think like, how would you describe the song? If someone said, what is Black Hat sound like? I wouldn't even know what genre to say it is. Yeah.
Like it's, I mean, it's still pretty rockabilly. Yeah, but it's, I don't know. Black Hat is really great. Just kind of four on the floor, like quick, just super groovy song.
Yeah, it's got a breakdown in it, a bridge where I kind of try to like channel an upright bass, even on playing it on my electric, but, and it's just, it's just, to me, like I said, it's kind of got that big like rockabilly feel to it. Yeah. It's just a real heavy driving song. Yeah.
I love it. It gets a great response. Yeah. I love particularly when we played at Five Walnut.
I think it kind of takes people by surprise because it is a bit of a departure from a normal sound. And yeah, it gets people moving. It has a real hot start too. Yeah.
It jumps right in. I do that to everyone coming in. And so every time it takes people by surprise. Yeah.
I love playing Five Walnut, particularly the show was so fun because people just get, it's such a small menu. Just people get all about you. And it's, you know, you can't help it dance because everyone should, you know, the first thing they do is we get there. The first thing they do is we get there, they take everything out of the room.
So they put all the tables downstairs and it's just a dance floor basically. I think that might be, no, actually it's not, but it's one of the only shows where somebody's actually literally been dancing on the table. Yeah. And a guy jumps through a window.
Yeah, that's true. A guy jumps through a window. That's good when a person jumps into a window. He didn't jump out the window.
Yeah. He jumped out the window. He jumped out the window. From the street and he came through to watch us play.
Yeah. And there's such interesting dancing that goes on there. And it's just such a fun. And she has seen some pretty spectacular dances.
So that show is always great. I've always shoved in a corner because there's very little small footprint in that small room. And like people are literally like inches from me when I'm playing. So like I have to like consciously think about not hitting anyone with the neck of my bass.
I noticed a couple of times people were like, put their head in the door and say, what time do y'all close and you'd like answer questions? Around 1230. Yeah. Yeah.
It's always one of my very favorite places to play. And it's always one of my favorite places. I actually people watch while I'm playing in there because they're right over there. Totally.
And it's just fun to watch everybody. It's really a captive audience because there's no place that you can be in there where people are not actively engaged. Like people have to be physically and like this early part of the show. It's pretty awesome.
My favorite thing is playing drums and looking out because it's just a little ways back from the stoplight. And so you look out and where the windows are open. It's pretty loud. And someone drive up and they drive up to the red light and they kind of look over and they see us playing.
They just get us all proven along or sing along. I love it when they're because they have those big windows that open and because it's so small. I love foottrash. It spills down onto the street and there will be people standing out on the street watching too.
It's just a place that just matches. I love that they don't charge cover and it's such a big foot traffic area because generally people come in. They order a drink. They stay for one or two drinks.
It's such a lot of turnover. They stay longer if we play. But it is kind of crowded. So I mean, there's such turnover.
Like there's just constantly just rotating cast with a lot of new people. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty great.
You can really just do like four songs and just keep rotating. Yeah. Hypothetically. When I was in Nashville, I saw someone play Summer of 69 three times in one night.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, was it Bryan Adams? Okay. That man was just not stopped playing.
That man was kid rap. We once played a festival where we saw a band sound check with Bisa verdon and then their second song and the second song was Bisa verdon. Oh, yeah. That's super related, but you know.
That's true. I'm still angry about it. I'm still angry about it. Actually became a band joke because we always say let's say I'm a beast.
Yeah. We've never learned to play it. You know why? You know why?
Because of that fucking day. Because of that band. That band, which were name like nameless but unless you're listening. Shout out.
They might have been on this podcast. That'd be pretty funny. Are they a local band? It is a good song.
But you don't. Like you just said, you don't sound check with a song that's already in your set. Especially at a festival where everyone can hear your sound check. It's not like no one was around for it.
Everyone was there. Like sound check was something in the third set. Yeah. Exactly.
At least separate it. You know. Like sound check was sweet Jane. Essentially same song.
And then do Bisa verdon. Yeah. There's so many songs out there. You might have to change a little bit.
Me Jane might be the better song though. Yeah. I know there's an next song about my note. It's on the front door knocking.
Can't go as a force knocking to me. How's everybody? So this is my favorite song that I've ever written. It means a lot to me.
It's also the first track on my album for Pronounced Heroes available on Spotify in other streaming services. So I really like the song. For some reason Troy it always makes me think of Presidents of the United States of America. The band not the Old White people.
But I really, Old White men. So I really like the song Troy. It always reminds me of Presidents of the United States of America. The band.
I take those a couple of them. Not the Presidents. I can hear it though. Yeah.
It's got this real fun funky kind of bounce to it. It's like a little bit like weird but in a good way. And it's fun to play. It's a great reaction every time.
Yeah. It's got another one of those kind of surprise introductions. It starts off like not soft but sparse with just a guitar and vocal and then it kicks in kind of an unexpected way. Or an unexpected time I guess.
Yeah. It's a fun to play. You want to tell the story behind it? You know.
I'm sorry. I wrote the song. Kate Bryant. Kate Bryant.
Who's been mentioned? Kate Bryant. She is a jam. She is now a wonderful.
She's a national treasure. International. She plays the fiddle. I mean she's alright.
Sorry. Go on Troy. So I wrote the song about a dog who I adopted off Craigslist. This old woman out in Marshall had found her out by the railroad tracks.
I'm just putting that out. I didn't even really have the intention of picking her out. Of course I'm a freaking sucker and I did. It was maybe like two years later.
It's based off a moment where Kate was over at my house and rehearsing for this duo gig we were going to do. We were sitting in the yard. It was a super nice day. She sees my dog chewing on something out in the yard and we see that it's a dead bird.
I'm like, oh, don't you want that? Not even five minutes later the dog comes running through the yard and runs up the cat and starts licking her in the face. Kate is just all about it. It happened.
Oh, yeah. You're so cute. I'm just watching her. I'm like, what the hell are you doing as the realization slowly sets in?
Yeah, it was a great moment. Yeah. She is so talented. So as previously mentioned, I don't listen to lyrics.
Do you talk about that bird eating and face licking in the song? Not in such clear terms. But the final line of the song is I told you not to let that dog lick your face. That's a good line.
I mean, that's probably related. It's pretty on the list. Ashley is a very dog friendly town. You said that like it was a double entendre.
It's a very dog friendly town. You can take that however your sick mind takes. Sometimes it's a little cat friendly. Sometimes it's me.
Meow. Where I'm from, they were very califrantly. So this song is often a big people pleaser people like it. I think because it's got such a great groove and also because...
And because I actually love dogs. If you know what, I mean it doesn't love dogs. Yeah. If I know that people aren't paying attention, then I'll usually announce the songs about my dog.
And then suddenly they're paying attention. It's great. You should say that about more songs. I should.
Yeah, I've heard that you don't like dogs. That is a truth. One time we... That's what is a dog friendly.
Well, it's funny. One time I like dogs. They're like dogs. One time I think it was David.
This is a pretty David thing to do. Before we played the song, we were playing it was a Jack of the Wood. And we were playing the song and Troy said it was about his dog. And then David said like three quarters of modern strangers like dogs.
Love dogs. Yeah, because three quarters of us, I mean, love dogs. Yeah, that's an factually accurate statement. And so somehow then it came out that Courtney was the one who did not like dogs.
And the crowd instantly turned on us. We managed to smooth it over. And you know, it's not like Courtney is an animal abuser. He has cats.
Several cats. He takes very good care of. He's always kind to our dogs when he's around them. Just not his cup of tea, which I guess is okay, I guess.
Yeah, but the crowd turned on us. I support other people's right to have dogs. I do recall one time I think it was over at your house and I brought Arrow over. And near the end of the evening, Courtney had said, I can see why people like dogs.
Yeah, he did say that. Actually, he said that about my dog too. It's not a competition. I understand why people like dogs.
I'm just not a dog guy. He and my dog bonded at Rick's birthday party when we were outside because my dog is a big motion. He does make a bad first impression, but he's a good dog. And he kind of was following you around, I think, for a while.
And I think you saw the benefit. Your dog's a little like a cat. He's not just going to warm up to you immediately. He's got to study you.
Yeah, he's a little anxious guy, but once he does warm up, he's very sweet. No. So about this song. I was wondering what we're talking about.
This is a song about a dog. This is a song about a dog. And if it weren't so darn cheesy, I would say that Troy Crosley is my favorite actual song but he's in the same band as me. So Paul Edelman of Jingle and Spares is actually my favorite western OK line songwriter.
I don't know what that had to do with that. But no, no, I was going to say I love Troy's songs and it's always so much fun to bring them in and try to figure out what the heck I'm going to play because he's such a guitar player and I'm definitely not. But you know, so it's fun to interpret those things. But of all the songs, this is my favorite of your songs.
Thank you. It's a good one. It's my favorite that I've written. It always gets a great reaction.
We all agree. And you do this song with your other band? I do, but not as well. I'm going to throw some more on them.
She is like that. I mean, it's ever this song. She's just wonderful. I mean, it's just like, I mean, we've been playing together for like four years now.
Like we're just like a well or old machine at this point. We just played better. Well, I feel like we could use a little more oil at Five Walnut. We could have.
Maybe a little less wine, but I don't remember drinking any wine. Sound good. I think that's hard. I've got to tell you the truth.