Ep.139 | $1 Billion, 40 People & Zero Gated Funds: Inside Canada's Biggest Public MIC

What does it actually look like to run a $1 billion mortgage portfolio with a team of 40? Phil Fiuza, Managing Director of Single Family at Atrium MIC, pulls back the curtain on one of Canada's largest and only publicly traded mortgage investment corporations.Phil started his career in 1988, right as real estate peaked and crashed, and has spent 30+ years learning how to survive every cycle. In this episode, he breaks down why Atrium went public in 2012 (hint: it's all about permanent capital), how they've kept 95% of their book in first mortgages, and why they're growing in Alberta and BC while staying disciplined in Ontario.If you want to understand how the biggest players in Canadian alternative lending think about risk, capital, and growth, this is the episode.Show Notes:1:32 - Meet Phil Fiuza & Atrium MIC 2:10 - His Career Started During the 1989 Crash 4:05 - How Today's Market Compares to the 90s 5:21 - Why Atrium Went Public - Permanent Capital Explained 7:12 - The Tradeoffs of Being Publicly Traded 10:10 - 71% Residential, 29% Commercial - Atrium's Book 11:46 - Growth Plans: Alberta & BC 13:09 - Defense First - Protecting Your Best Loans 16:03 - 95% First Mortgages & 87% GTA Focus 17:55 - How They Keep Winning First Position 19:17 - How Atrium Rewards Brokers 20:39 - Renewal Trends & Borrower Stress 27:33 - Moving to 2-3 Year Terms & Amortized Loans 29:14 - Atrium's Rate Range 31:50 - Canadian Economy Outlook - Condos, Construction & Inventory 35:51 - Most Impressive Moves From Competitors 37:21 - The LOC Product Phil Thinks Is Misleading Borrowers 39:56 - Bonus: Leafs, Jays & the Draft LotteryResources:Keystone Capital GroupCPLP Instagram: @cplpodcastKeystone Instagram: @keycapgroupFind Neal On:Instagram: @neal.andreinoLinkedIn: Neal AndreinoFind Ryan on:LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeilE-mail: [email protected] Phil on:LinkedIn: Phil FiuzaInstagram: @philfiuza