EP #139: Concrete Reality Check - INDOT Calls Out the Cement Industry episode artwork

EPISODE · Nov 18, 2025 · 39 MIN

EP #139: Concrete Reality Check - INDOT Calls Out the Cement Industry

from Concrete Logic · host Seth Tandett

Indiana just told the cement industry it won’t accept any blended cement with more than 10% limestone. That’s a first - and it’s not sitting well with the people who pushed Type IL cement in the first place. For the first time, a state DOT pushed back on Type IL cement—and the industry fired back. Indiana’s Department of Transportation says it’s protecting performance after bridge decks started scaling. The American Cement Association says the DOT’s new limits are unnecessary, confusing, and unscientific. So, who’s right—and what does it mean for the rest of the country’s concrete? What You’ll Learn  • Why INDOT limited Type IL limestone content to 10%  • The ACA’s objections — and what’s left unsaid  • How PCA’s 2021 carbon-neutrality roadmap and the federal Buy Clean program accelerated the switch to Type IL • Why the “one-to-one replacement” claim may have been oversold • How variable limestone content (≈7.6–12.4%) affects consistency and performance • Why admixtures and curing aren’t substitutes for good practice • What INDOT’s maintenance and inspection programs get right • Why other DOTs may follow Indiana’s lead next Chapters  00:00 – Introduction & ACA Briefing Overview  01:00 – INDOT’s 10% Limit and Industry Response  04:00 – How Type IL Cement Took Over the Market  07:30 – PCA Roadmap & Federal Buy Clean Pressure  10:30 – Complacency and the One-to-One Myth  14:00 – What Really Drove the 2021–2023 Flip  18:00 – Cement Chemistry and QC in the Field  22:00 – The Variability Problem: 7.6% vs 12.4% Limestone  26:30 – Are Admixtures and Curing the Real Culprits?  30:00 – INDOT’s Data-Driven Maintenance Approach  32:00 – Why Other States Are Watching Closely Guest Info  Dr. Jon Belkowitz – Chief Technical Officer, Intelligent Concrete  Email: [email protected]  Website: https://www.intelligent-concrete.comConcrete Logic Academy  Earn your PDHs the logical way.  Explore practical courses made for contractors, engineers, and producers.  Free trial: https://www.concretelogicacademy.comSupport the Podcast  Support the show and be listed as a Producer for life on the episode page:  https://www.concretelogicpodcast.com/supportMedia & Sponsorship Inquiries: [email protected] Partners Intelligent Concrete  At Intelligent Concrete, we combine lab precision with field expertise to help you understand what your concrete is telling you. Our services include mix troubleshooting, forensic and petrographic testing, performance-based specification and admixture development, and training for engineers, contractors, and producers. Whether you’re chasing consistency, durability, or answers after a failure, Intelligent Concrete delivers the data and insight to solve problems and improve performance.  Learn more: https://www.concretelogicpodcast.com/intelligent-concreteKUIU (Affiliate Link) – https://www.concretelogicpodcast.com/kuiu15% off the first order. CreditsProduced by Jodi Tandett & Concrete Logic Media Music by Mike Dunton — https://www.mdunton.comConnectivity Host: Seth Tandett Concrete Visionary | Business Development at Baker Construction | Host of the #1 Concrete Podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethtandett/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@concretelogicpodcast Website: https://www.concretelogicpodcast.comIf you learned something new, share this episode with your team and help more engineers and builders think logically about concrete. Until next time, let’s keep it concrete! Reference Links ACA Briefing: “Portland-Limestone Cement Limits in Indiana Department of Transportation Specifications” (October 2025 Update) — https://tinyurl.com/TypeILINDOT Recurring Special Provision 901-M-069 (Effective December 1, 2025): https://www.in.gov/dot/div/contracts/standards/rsp/sep25/900/901-M-069%20251201.pdfINDOT Testing Memos Referenced in ACA Briefing:  • 21-05 • 22-02 • 23-01 • 24-03 • 25-02 (Available at https://www.in.gov/indot/doing-business-with-indot/contractorsconstruction/division-of-materials-and-tests/current-testing-memos/) 

NOW PLAYING

EP #139: Concrete Reality Check - INDOT Calls Out the Cement Industry

0:00 39:28

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

Open Letter

Apr 29, 2025 ·0m

Nothing Like It

Apr 29, 2025 ·3m

How'd You Go Pt.2

Apr 29, 2025 ·2m

Above The Act

Apr 29, 2025 ·3m

I Chant feat Lucas Miller

Apr 29, 2025 ·3m

Ice Cream Cones

Apr 29, 2025 ·4m

Business Bootcamp Mike Andes Business Bootcamp Podcast is made for small business owners.My name is Mike Andes. I started college at the age of 13 with full intention of going to medical school. I went to school for an MBA and now I own a landscaping company, an Anytime Fitness gym, and 3 online businesses. I share my highs, lows, and experiences being an entrepreneur. You can learn from my mistakes and identify with the day-to-day struggles of a small business owner.Call in or ask a question online and get concrete advice about your company. If you are looking to START, GROW, OR SAVE your business I want to help you! Learn from business people and seasoned entrepreneurs as they share their personal stories and experiences on the interview portion of the show. Language Games Podcast Jon Kaus Welcome to the Language Games Podcast where we explore the true, the good, and the beautiful in philosophy, apologetics, literature, logic, and cinema (2 Cor. 10:5). Zakir Naik Muslim Central A medical doctor by professional training, Dr Zakir Naik is renowned as a dynamic international orator on Islam and Comparative Religion. He is the president of Islamic Research Foundation, Mumbai. Dr Zakir clarifies Islamic viewpoints and clears misconceptions about Islam, using the Quran, authentic Hadith and other religious Scriptures as a basis, in conjunction with reason, logic and scientific facts.He is popular for his critical analysis and convincing answers to challenging questions posed by audiences after his public talks.Naik says that his goal is to “concentrate on the educated Muslim youth who have become apologetic about their own religion and have started to feel the religion is outdated”.[54] He considers it a duty of every Muslim to remove perceived misconceptions about Islam and to counter what he views as the Western media’s anti-Islamic bias in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.[82] Naik has said that “despite the strident anti-I The Rizzuto Show | Daily Comedy Podcast The Rizzuto Show Comedy Podcast | 105.7 The Point | Hubbard Radio | Gamut Podcast Network From comedy and weird news to celebrity gossip and sports, The Rizzuto Show brings the chaos and questionable logic of St. Louis’ favorite morning show to a daily comedy podcast. Join Rizz, Moon Valjean, Lern, Rafe Williams, and King Scott as they chop it up and dish it in a hilarious daily show—bustin’ chops, talking trends, and keeping it real.🎙️ Expect funny clips, interviews, behind-the-scenes moments, and full Rizz Show daily comedy podcast episodes—all in one place.Don't miss a minute of your favorite comedy show. Subscribe/Follow now and laugh along with The Rizzuto Show - trying to save the world one funny podcast at a time!You can also hear The Rizzuto Show live on the radio every weekday from 6am-10am on 105.7 The Point - Everything Alternative - Hubbard Radio in St. Louis, Missouri - Part of the Gamut Podcast Network.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Concrete Logic?

This episode is 39 minutes long.

When was this Concrete Logic episode published?

This episode was published on November 18, 2025.

What is this episode about?

Indiana just told the cement industry it won’t accept any blended cement with more than 10% limestone. That’s a first - and it’s not sitting well with the people who pushed Type IL cement in the first place. For the first time, a state DOT pushed...

Is there a transcript available for this episode?

Yes, a full transcript is available for this episode. You can read the complete transcript on the episode page.

Can I download this Concrete Logic episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!