EPISODE · Jan 27, 2020 · 52 MIN
Ep 15: Free Will and Meaning / Brett Weinstein, Sam Harris discussion (Part 2)
from Shores Of Ignorance · host Shores of Ignorance
This is the second half of our conversation that started in ep 14, so listen to that one first. Episode 14 and 15 are based around a discussion Brett Weinstein and Sam Harris had about free will on Brett's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bret-weinstein-darkhorse-podcast/id1471581521?i=1000459815266 The breakdown in this podcast on free will is really good. I feel like they take it to the logical conclusions in which they decide what to believe. I don’t know if this is the right words. But Sam really shows that what he believes is impractical and he tries to get out of it by referencing our psychology as experiencing something like free will but it’s not really. Brett deftly points out that if there is no free will then the conversation and all of Sam’s points are pointless. Brett does agree that it is hard to get around determinism and almost says we have to accept free will no matter how limited it is. I think Brett would argue more on how much freewill we have or assume to have than that it is a completely deterministic reality. Brett mostly see the problems of a fully deterministic perspective and how impractical it is. Paul Vanderclay response: https://youtu.be/5dm7lTDdBOg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1yIjoIy3Fk Talk about Manifest image and Scientific image (Wilfrid Sellars) Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, and Eric Weinstein (free will) https://youtu.be/jzXePwgeIBI Daniel Bonevac - Manifest and Scientific Images https://youtu.be/aVoWTnpF5ew Sam’s Argument - Free Will https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B007GCYUX8&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006 45 min def of free will brain scans show that the decision is made ms before we know we made a decision. Assumptions of free will. Could have behaved differently. We are the conscious source of our thoughts Benjamin Libet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet 11:10 imagine a perfect device. What? At 14 minutes he mentions voluntary and involuntary and that this does not really matter We are observers Free Wiil - Sam's website April 5, 2012 https://samharris.org/free-will-and-free-will/ Sam Harris and Richard Lang Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are mutually compatible and that it is possible to believe in both without being logically inconsistent.[1] Compatibilists believe freedom can be present or absent in situations for reasons that have nothing to do with metaphysics.[2] They say causal determinism does not exclude the truth of possible future outcomes.[3]
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