Ep. 15 – The Actual Jesus, Honest Pastors & Real Life (with Joe Henseler)

This episode is a real one. I sit down with my friend Joe Henseler, lead pastor of Faith Church in the Lehigh Valley, dad of three grown sons, and a guy who knows how to keep things honest. We talk about parenting, technology, grief, funerals, and what it’s like to lead when you’re not perfect. Joe opens up about abuse from his father, the moment he realized he wasn’t everything those words said he was, and how following the actual Jesus changes everything. It’s funny, raw, and deeply encouraging. Whether you’re in church, out of church, or not sure what you think about church — you’ll get something from this conversation.