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EPISODE · Mar 17, 2026 · 26 MIN

EP 156 | Why Self-Help Feels Empty (And What Works Instead) | Leslie Jones

from Miracle Moment | Rae Irelan · host Rae Taggett

Leslie Jones spent decades locked in performance mode, coaching leaders while battling her own stage anxiety and podcast fears. Then something shifted two months ago that changed everything about how she shows up. The creator of the Spiral Method reveals why the billion-dollar self-help industry keeps us trapped in hungry ghost syndrome, and how real transformation happens not through weekend workshops but in sustained community containers. She's dismantling 20 years of mental frameworks to get back to something simpler: real people having real conversations about being human together. This isn't about fixing yourself. It's about remembering what we've forgotten about authentic connection and why the future of leadership depends on our ability to create psychological safety in an increasingly artificial world. Key Timestamps [00:06:12] The shift from stage anxiety to podcast ease [00:11:30] Why Leslie targets white male leaders specifically [00:22:18] Cultivating conditions for magic and miracles in community [00:35:20] Creating containers for authentic vulnerability [00:41:15] The fear of entering community and social anxiety About Leslie Jones: Leslie is passionate about assisting leaders seeking a balanced, holistic approach to life and business while having a huge impact on the companies and people they lead. As a lifelong learner and entrepreneur, Leslie has started numerous businesses over the past 25 years, including Leslie Jones Coaching, Jones Associates, Let's Go Live, the InnerActive Institute, and SpiralMethod. As a master executive coach, Leslie helps other entrepreneurs, medium-sized businesses, and Fortune 500 companies uncover the underlying obstacles that prevent peak performance. She has developed proven systems that work to resolve issues and create dramatic increases in income, productivity, personal power, satisfaction, and work/life balance. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiralmethod LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesliejonescoaching/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SpiralMethod/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8a0l_jJuvp01Jxpp-uIj1g Website: https://spiralmethod.com/leslie-jones/ Connect With the Host Website: https://raeirelan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raeirelan/ Join the Evolved Influence Academy Community today! ⁠https://www.skool.com/evolved-influence-academy/about?ref=28c7243ce169469eb9979bbc4226a76a⁠ Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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