Ep 16: Beyond Bots - How to Grow the Next Generation of Internal Auditors feat. Dijana De Coker

The conversation delves into the changing landscape of governance, the evolution of the modern internal auditor, the impact of AI on audit careers, and the skills of the future internal auditor. It also explores personal well-being, career surprises, practical examples of courage and integrity, preparing junior professionals for dark times, and the future of audit careers. Additionally, it discusses communication and influence in internal audit and the need to reskill audit teams for the future. The conversation explores the evolving skill mix in internal audit, the challenge of attracting top young talents, the use of role play and playbooks, AI as a talent enabler, lessons from audit background, preserving human core in the age of technology, culture and talent retention in internal audit, and cultivating future audit talent. Key takeaways include the rebranding of internal audit, the use of role play and playbooks, AI as a development tool, leadership lessons, preserving human core, attractiveness as an employer, and psychological safety and trust.TakeawaysThe evolving role of internal auditors in the face of AI automationThe importance of courage, integrity, and practical skills in the future of audit careers Rebranding internal auditAccelerated development programsRole play and playbooksAI as a development toolUpskilling and reskillingUnderstanding motivationLeadership lessonsPreserving human coreAttractiveness as an employerContinuous learning and exposurePositioning internal audit as a talent poolPsychological safety and trustChapters00:00 The Changing Landscape of Governance07:22 The Evolution of the Modern Internal Auditor14:27 The Impact of AI on Audit Careers22:35 The Future of Audit Careers28:38 Skills of the Future Internal Auditor35:29 Communication and Influence in Internal Audit42:37 Attracting Top Young Talents to Internal Audit54:28 Role Play and Playbooks for Internal Audit01:02:24 Lessons from Audit Background01:11:14 Culture and Talent Retention in Internal Audit