Ep 161 Landon Gray

brand myself into more than a few tizzies trying to get into very multiple dizzy's. Hello and welcome to WC original music episode 161 the Beaverhead climax episode. This week very happy to have on the podcast Land and Grey. Land and Grey is a musician and songwriter from West Jefferson North Carolina although he moves around quite a bit.

He's a little hard to keep track of to be honest with you. He's released two EPs and 19 singles, most recent EP. It's called A Brief Cosmic Cinematic Experience. Most of his songs are self-recorded and self-produced but you can't really tell unless you really like that sound in which case it comes through loud and clear.

You can search Land and Grey on all of the streaming apps to find his music or check the show notes for links to all of his stuff and his social media. It does a lot of really cool videos and a lot of other stuff on the social media so make sure to check that out. Here is Land and Grey. Aside from like trying to lean into this narrative I was forming in my head, let me back up the whole album, the whole project.

That was the quickest backup you were halfway down. I think half-making first sentence. Let me start. I feel like to talk about one of these songs I need to give a brief kind of overarching explanation of the whole album because they fit so intricately in my mind together.

The project is called A Brief Cosmic Cinematic Experience which is just a fancy way of saying just like a brief kind of musical to the experiences one might go through. In happenstance, aside from trying to lean into this narrative of finding yourself, of coming into your own, of some of these more developmental experiences that you can go through, especially at my age. I'm a couple of years shy of 30 and I'm figuring out a bunch of stuff all the time and learning from my own experiences. Aside from that and word choice convenience, I need to probably start out by explaining half-and-stance, by apologizing to my mother for using a more kind of a satanic language.

I saw a jump right into that. The demonic kind of entity in the song happens to dance kind of alludes to this manifestation of anxiety and really just how deliberate debilitating it can be. There's been moments in my life where I've just been crippled by anxiety and depression but luckily I've gotten to a place where I can recognize that and recognize that demon quote unquote and see that for what it really is. If that makes any sense, hopefully it does.

A tongue in cheek kind of commentary on these old timey notions around mental health also about people used to just claim that a lot of mental illness was like demonic possession or that something was wrong with you and really it's not. I think everybody experiences anxiety or just any sort of those kind of symptoms of we all have to keep our mental health in check and I think that's really important and that's really kind of what happens to dance came from. But the recording of it is a little funny and it kind of goes back to the whole project. I didn't set out to write any of these songs.

I didn't set out to record a project or record this project. I had none of these songs in mind except for one and it was around I think early July my cousin Evan, he came up to a bizamie and we love to go thrifting and go to Good Wheels and all this kind of stuff. And he's a big vintage reseller and a shout out GBG. But he was going through CDs at this Goodwill and found a copy of Smash and Pumbkin's Sami's Dream.

And he's like this is such a great album and the t-shirts now are just crazy expensive and we were talking about that. And after he left, I went back to that same Goodwill and found another copy for myself and listened to that one day riding around straight through. I guess late to the party but I never heard that album. And it's not typically not something I listen to but it just I don't know it like scratched some sort of itch and it motivated me and inspired me to just come home and practice my scales.

I really don't know how to play the guitar honestly. And so as I was working on my scales just kind of messing around I had a beat going in GarageBand, a drum loop and that I'd smashed together to inmate and luckily I just struck those two chords there that open and riff of happenstance and somehow moved up the neck and found that melody and slowly just kind of layer by layer started out with that finished out the drums, been added a rhythm guitar, a bass and then the vocals. You're playing all the instruments on this? Yeah, yeah, all of them.

I did myself and I record right here where we're doing this is where I recorded the album and all my songs and sitting there and layering this track piece by piece and as I'm going words are kind of slowly coming out of the track itself and start hearing kind of phrases like little Banshee or something like that. So I have Banshee and so I'm trying to play into this kind of narrative now of kind of tapping into some of the more quirky sides of my personality. I really like the Ghost Adventure show. I love anything kind of spooky and my birthday is on the day before Halloween so I think it comes natural and it comes honest and so I had Banshee and then I went to Paranormal Activity and I couldn't say it and you'll hear it.

I stumble all over my own tongue over and over again and I couldn't say Paranormal Activity in that slot but I could say Demonic and so just out of that word choice convenience happens stance just taint. It was there after about 10 hours or so. Just hunched over the computer all day and I played, recorded and mastered it all on the same day and all the rest of these songs for the most part and that kind of that rotting style and recording style carries over to each. Basically each one of these songs and most of my songs in general.

Yes, so you record all this at home. How long did it take you to record the whole album? The whole thing it probably took me started around like the 4th of July and about three weeks later I was done. Oh okay.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Newsflash maybe one that's pretty on the nose as far as kind of what I'm trying to say. I feel like Newsflash for me is just this kind of internal scream that I've been feeling that something's got to give kind of within just our society, our communities, our friendships, our relationships that there just seems to be something wrong with how we treat each other and how we're thanking of each other.

I feel like uniquely in America, in the United States, this is getting on some sort of soapbox but we're constantly, I feel like we're constantly being pitted against each other and being sold some ideas and things that maybe aren't exactly in our best interests as a collective species as stewards of the earth and yeah it was just kind of about getting that kind of frustration across in hopefully a kind of a catchy way. Again, I probably have to apologize to my mom again for this one, for the language. I should have just named an album. Sorry, mom.

No, that's going to be the biography. Oh yeah. But I just feel like, you know, I don't use a lot of profanity in my songs. That's not who I am as an artist.

I don't think I need to rely on those things but I do think in certain situations they can be useful, you know, to get this point across where I really do think, you know, that sometimes we're just being, you know, it's just a lot of smoke and mirrors that sometimes tell me a little bit about your kind of musical history. When did you start playing music? How old were you? What instrument?

What was the make and model of the instrument serial numbers? That's what I mean. Yeah, okay. Let me get out my receipts and take my ledger.

But I just, I kind of, I don't know, I kind of have this imposter syndrome where I just don't, I don't know. I feel like I'm still trying to learn how to play the guitar and learn how to write music. And here I am, you know, two albums. I think it's 19 singles and a couple of EPs later.

And but I grew up in the mountains near Boone in a little town, West Jefferson, North Carolina. And Bluegrass is a big thing. You know, we're proud of our music. And there's people at like, places like Fip Store, I go out there and watch them, you know, pick around and played with some guys in high school, just at some parties.

I would sing while some people would play guitar. And, and but nothing really serious until really after college. My first guitar, I think, I think it was the bass. I got in like seventh grade.

I went to a mission trip in Jamaica and saw a at one of those local churches up there in like the mountains of Jamaica play this killer bass. And I was like, I need to go home and I want to do that. And I'm a big Paul McCartney fan, huge Beatles fanatic. And so I was like, I'm gonna get me a Beetle bass.

Couldn't afford a Hofner. And so is, I think a Rosewood. And it's actually the bass that is played on all these tracks. I still have it.

And still play it. But yeah, I kind of picked in, you know, went to college. I took mountain music in high school and then teacher was the great Steve Lewis. And I learned a lot from him.

I wish I would have paid more attention, but it is high school. So I cut myself a little slack there. But after college, just kind of being, you know, struggling with really who I was. I wasn't a student anymore.

I'd been a student my whole life. And now I'm not a student and, you know, trying to figure out really what I want to do. And I always love to write. And so I was like, I'm gonna, you know, start picking up the guitar again.

And I just could never play cover songs as good as, you know, the original artist could. And I was like, this sounds bad. And I was like, I'm gonna have to write my own stuff. I'm ever gonna want to, like if everybody's gonna want to hear me play, or I'm gonna want to hear myself play.

And so I started writing some songs and just kind of, you know, forming this kind of identity after college. And I gaked around Raleigh for a while. Was actually a little independent label out of Raleigh and got up with a group of guys. We formed a band and gaked around for the better part of like two years around Raleigh and recorded some.

I went to do my own things. I eventually got out of the contract. And I mean, the guys still gaked around. And then of course, the pandemic happens and, you know, a lot of happens.

And we all just kind of eventually just, it just wasn't working out. And things happen. And we're still very close. I talk to those guys almost every day.

But you know, it just gives way for new things. And all those experiences, everything, I couldn't have wrote this album, made this album. If I hadn't gone through, you know, each and every experience, good and bad, that's been, you know, on my way. And yeah, so I've really been, you know, really been playing hard for, I guess, almost six years now, I guess something like that.

So and it's really neat. The songs, they all kind of came in the order they appear on the album too. And so if you go back to happenstance, you know, you have this story about, you know, some quirky boy meeting a banshee type woman, you know, and them kind of getting together. And then news flash is, you know, kind of them against the world in my eyes, if you're going along on the story of the album.

And then Tellyrod is this, you know, I've been in experiences and I've had relationships where, you know, they, they serve a purpose, but but they don't last, you know, and that's not always a bad thing. It's just, you know, you have to recognize that there's different types of love beyond a soulmate type of love, you know, like allowing, it's like allowing myself to be accepting of love and allowing myself to be loved, if that makes any sense. You know, I don't want to give my love out to just anyone, you know, and I'm not advising anybody to do that. But when I do, and it doesn't work out for whatever the reasons may be, and a lot of the times I am the reason, you know, that I just see that as an opportunity to grow and never as a waste of time or and never try to waste anybody else's time, you know, just try not to be a jerk.

And but you know, Tellyrod is kind of encompasses kind of all those emotions for me, I guess. It's just, you know, it's tricky. It's in it's messy. It's a little messy, kind of, you know, how the feeling of the song.

And but yeah, that's what kind of Tellyrod means to me. And it's funny though, this song is kind of repurposed of an old song. Again, I sat there and found a drum track that I like found another drum track. So I mash those two together.

And I had a song called King, a really old song. I read it probably like 2016. And, and I was trying to play it to this drum track. And I was like, there's no way I'm going to be able to write, you know, like all these new songs and get this done.

Because I'm kind of compulsive about it. Like once I sit down for a project, I want to just knock it out. I want to get it, I want to get it out of me. And, and so I couldn't, it wasn't working.

And I am garage band is the extent of my knowledge. I know nothing beyond the world of garage band when it comes to music, you know, sound engineering or anything like that. And I'm no drummer. I'm barely a guitar player and singer and I'm definitely no drummer.

And so I couldn't really manipulate the drums to fit the song. And so I had to manipulate the song and fit the drums. And I did that, I just started strumming a little bit faster, changing it up and slowly had a brand new song. And, and that's Tellyrod.

And I just, I thought that was, I just, I mean, I kind of have to take a step back and just be like, it was pretty cool. You know, and, but I'm really proud of that one. I really like that one. I think that's my cousin Evans favorite.

Actually shout out back there. What's, what's some of your favorite movies? My favorite movies. See, I really love Dumb and Dumber has to be up there.

I'm a huge comedy fan. I love Dumb and Dumber. Probably my all time favorite movie is Uncle Buck. Yeah, Uncle Buck or maybe like playing trains and automobiles.

I love John Candy and especially John Candy and Steve Martin. Yeah, let's see, I'm trying to think of one that I saw recently that I really liked. But it's not coming to me. Love Batman.

Love all the Batman movies. Kind of nerdy like that was got a deep dive into the whole Star Wars, you know, content. But yeah. What do you think of the most recent Batman movie?

The Batman? The Batman. I liked it. I kind of, I'm just, I don't know, you put anybody in a Batman suit and put them on a theater screen.

I'm kind of there for it. I really like the penguin. You know, Colin Farrell as a penguin was great. And I thought it was really funny.

I think it had one of the best car scene, car scene chases or car chases in a movie that I've ever seen or definitely in recent memory when they're on the freeway. But yeah, actually, my degree, I went to NC State and I majored in English with a concentration in film. And so I've always loved movies. I've always thought I was going to make movies and I ended up making music.

But that's- Have you made any short films or anything like that? Yeah, I did a couple in college and I get to do some video projects, you know, for myself every now and then. I don't really have the equipment I was had access to when I was in college. What about videos for your songs?

Yeah, yeah. I tried to, I tried it when I can, you know, make some little clips myself and there's, I think I did one for a song called Dead Man Shake. It was really rudimentary and it was in one of my old apartments in Raleigh. And but yeah, I love making, you know, home movies and music videos and stuff like that, even if nobody else ever speaks.

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Clarifications and corrections from last week's episode with Kim Ware. Shakies is a name that's commonly used for dive bars around a lot of towns have them, you know, they all think of the first but they're not. So that's Shakies. And then Shakies is a muzzle that you use to keep a horse from shaking its head a lot.

So we were both right. This is Alicia Sharpo and you're listening to WNC Original Music. Yeah, why is one of the kind of the outlier of the album, I guess, a little bit? I was able to find, yeah, I was able to find a drum track again to fit my original song.

And I recorded the song once more, once before and released it. And it was just pretty much me and an electric guitar. And I think that was in like 2018, maybe, it's been a few years ago now. And I always heard, you know, this kind of arrangement in my head, but never had really the confidence or the experience to or the know-how to put it together.

And so luckily it fit. And so, and I can finally, you know, get out what I was having here in my head for all these years when I listened to the song. And but as far as the message for why, again, I think it's kind of on the nose a little bit too. But it's not just another silly love song per se.

It sort of has this kind of haunting element and tint to it. Sort of, you know, definitely a theme of the whole project. But I think I wanted to write a love song about, you know, a relationship once the rose tinted glasses comes off. And you start to see things for what they are, which it's on, you know, by default, it sounds negative, but it doesn't have to be.

It's just, you know, realizing what's around you. And, you know, and I would, and in those moments, I myself would ask myself, why, you know, why did I do X, Y, and Z, you know, is this really for me or was it for this other person, you know, and why were they doing X, Y, and Z? So it really parallels with happenstance in that way over anxiety and overthinking and just on the back, but just on the back end of the situation, you know, you have happenstance and then you have, you know, why once the dust is kind of starting to settle after this, you know, big kind of love affair and tell your eye and then you get the why and kind of the sobering up a little bit, I guess, you would say. And, and, and, you know, I myself and if I ran myself into more than a few tizzies trying to get to the answer of why, you know, and there is multiple dizzies.

That's not a bad thing. And, and, you know, there's, there's never, you know, one good answer. And, you know, for me, I'm still, I mean, it's something that I've got to work on, you know, every day, and I don't think I'll ever get to a place, but it's just, you know, it's trying to be more okay with that and, and more okay with not having all the answers right now and not getting, and sometimes not getting the answers that you want. Who are some bands or musicians that you, whether it's local or national that you wish people listen to more?

Oh, the first one that comes to mind is my dear friends, my mentors, who I owe a lot of my early gigs to is who I are. They are a band out of Raleigh, North Carolina. And, yeah, and they are great. I love their music.

I think they have, I think they came out with a new, a new album not too long ago. And it's so good. All their, all their stuff is so good. And if you ever get a chance, whoever's out there listening, go look them up and check out their shows too.

They play a ton of shows. They're always gigging. Then you find them on Instagram. But another, another group or another person who I would, who I can't not mention is my good friend Andy Guy.

He is a local musician here in Charlotte. He has, he's one of the, you know, most talented lyricists that I've ever met. He's a great songwriter, great musician, great guitar player. He actually was nice enough to play on my project called Flowers.

He did, he has, he actually has a little podcast. And I was on it. And we decided instead of kind of the standard interview, we would just play a show and record it. And we, and I released it as an album.

And yeah, and, and whoever, if you are interested, you definitely check it out. It's really, it's really good. You can, at least this is an album if you want to. You want to.

Yeah. And, and, and, and, what about, what if there was an album that was just like, the songs and then the pocket, huh? See, I think there's something to that. And, because, I mean, it's hard enough to get people to go check out the podcast or go check out the album.

But if you have everything together, I mean, it's basically what I have on the podcast. And it's just, you get music for free. Yeah. I love that.

Yeah. I think that's great. And hopefully I'm making, hopefully I'll make sense explaining it. Yeah.

Everything's not some just word salad. But, but, yeah, in, but some of the other kind of artists, I mean, around here, you really don't have to say it, but the A-the Brothers, I love the A-the Brothers. There's a camp. They're one of my more newer favorite bands.

They're, I think, so they're getting big now. I'm sure people are probably familiar with them now. And Lord Heron, I don't run into me Lord Heron fans, but I, I would love to. I love them.

And I kicked myself. I had a chance to go see them in Raleigh and, and I wasn't able to make it or something, you know, and then the world shuts down and, you know, things happen. But, hopefully I'll get to see them at one of their live shows. That would be, that would be great.

So, Lime Light is probably like one of these songs that, it's probably, Lime Light is a song that I think I've been trying to write or been wanting to write ever since I could, you know, ever since I picked up a guitar and a microphone and started writing. And, you know, it's, I don't tell the other ones, but it might be my favorite. Because I think it's just, it's just about, you know, it's, it just summarizes the whole project to me and summarizes this whole feeling of coming into your own, of, of finding, finding yourself and, or more, more or less the realization that, that finding yourself takes a lifetime, you know, it's, it's not one of these just, we wake up and you have, and it's there type of things. And, you know, the, the main kind of chorus, the kind of the main little tag line of, of Lime Light, you know, is, is if you're running away, how can you play, or how can you stay in the spotlight?

And, and it's just kind of like a message that, you know, if you're, if you're constantly running, if you're, if you're constantly, you know, running away from who you actually are in search of trying to find somebody who you think you might be, you know, you're missing it, you're missing everything. It's kind of like, you know, John Lennon's quote that, life is what, life is what happens, why you're busy making other plans. And it's kind of the same message in a way that, you know, in the next line is, when you're coming and going, you'll get no relief in the afterlife, just meaning that I think the payoff after what all this is, what life is, what we're, what I'm doing, you know, is only beneficial if I'm making a difference, you know, to the little ecosystems in the worlds around me. And that if I'm constantly worried about, you know, the comings and goings of, of everything else, of everybody else, of me, you know, then I'm missing of what's happening just in front of my face.

And, you know, I think it's funny that, that, that's what the song ended up being about, you know, after writing all these in order, and you get to this place of like, ah, it, this is kind of, this kind of makes sense. This is a really cool little capstone to this project, because I had every intentions of not stopping. And, you know, but here it was this, this song about finally coming into my own, but with the realization and the gratitude for the experiences, you know, again, both good and bad that have gotten me here. And, you know, I think that that's kind of what the message is for the whole album.

And it's just about kind of that acceptance and the, the, the, you know, Evern March on, you know, into the good night type of thing. I've heard this song a lot on TikTok. Yeah. Yeah.

I've tried to blast it out there. I've had some, some luck with it. I'm just hoping that, you know, I, for me, it's, it's even amazing for me, for my journey and my experiences that I'm talking to you on this podcast, because I didn't really set out for, you know, to do anything. I mean, it's not for the fame or the, or the recognition or, you know, any, you know, kind of paths on the back that I get by doing this, or the views or the clicks or the likes.

It's just about, I think trying to get it, get this, get my work on these songs in front of people that need a little inspiration that, that sometimes that they need to hear something from somebody who might not know exactly what they're doing and kind of pulling it off maybe. And being like, well, if he can do that, then, then I can do, you know, my thing, I can go out there and shoot for the moon if this guy can make an album in, you know, in the living room or wherever and, you know, kind of patch this thing together, then maybe I can do it. And early on, I said out that it's like, if I could just, you know, be that person for one other person, you know, that's, that's, you know, mission accomplished. And with TikTok, I think it's just so easy and so kind of accessible.

There's a lot of things of social media that I despise. And I think that will probably be the downfall of us all. But there are some, there are some good things, you know, and undeniable, undeniably good things about this. I mean, every, every part of the internet is good, has a potential to be good.

If you, you know, if you use it that way, you know, just like anything. So like, you know, if you're, if you're sitting there complaining about how bad the internet is, that means you're going to the bad places on the internet, you know, because there's, yeah, there's the complete works of Shakespeare. There's, you know, all the Beatles songs, there's, you know, reviews and stories about every book ever written, you know, there's like, there's like channels devoted to, they play, you know, Christmas records, just spinning, you know, like, it's not so, yeah. So if you don't like the internet as close, you're doing it wrong.

Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I agree in that, you know, that, in like, like I said, like anything, it is what you put into it and what you take out of it too. And, and, you know, I've, I've really, you know, tried to put, you know, some focus into trying to, you know, slowly build maybe a little community online, you know, where people can hear my music.

And, and I can just, I just have a little outlet, you know, where it kind of goes. Yeah. Into the ether. What kind of books do you like to read?

I'm really into a horror, I love horror books. I love Stephen King is, is my favorite, probably my favorite author, him and William Faulkner to dust off an oldie. I love Faulkner stuff. I'm really a big fan of, you know, like short fiction to Ron Rash is a great one of my favorite authors.

He has a great book. It's a nothing gold can stay. I think he's a professor at Western North Carolina, I believe. But he's a he's got a great book, Robert Browning, I love reading poetry.

He has some great, great poetry. But yeah, probably Stephen King and Faulkner is probably going to be the ones that I'm reading. I like Stephen King. And I especially like his non horror stuff.

You know, his was the book of, it's like four short novellas, different seasons, not different seasons. Yeah. Yeah. What happened?

This one had the Shawshank Redemption in it. Because that's one of my favorite movies. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The, the name is, is not coming to me. But I think I know what you're talking about.

And there's one that's not really, it's not really horror really per se, I guess. But I think it's like, do you think a or something? Do you think about like a time traveling or interdimensional portal in like a 50s view acres? Right.

Pretty cool. Do you have a musical impression? A musical impression like somebody I can impersonate? Yeah.

I can kind of do a an Elvis. Oh, it's funny. Yeah. It's kind of timely now.

I guess it wasn't cool really up until this past year. But as a kid, I would actually put on these neighborhood shows. I would get the neighbors kids to be like the Jordan Airs or the band and maybe my backup dancers. And I would be Elvis when we have the boom box and we put on these little shows for the neighborhood.

And let's see if I can, if it'll, if it'll come to me. Yeah. If you can, if you can call him. If you can call him out.

Or he's in the room. I don't know. I don't ever have any. This is always personally.

And that's all right. That's all right. That's all right. That's pretty good.

It's something at least. That's good. I thought you were going to sing it. Are you doing singing too?

Yeah. And do a. Well, that's all right. No mama.

That's all right to you. That's all right. No mama. It's just standing.

What are you doing? Well, that's all right. Hey, that's very good. That's the first time I've had a lot of time.

I'm honored. I hope I didn't just leave a comment down below. Right. Anything else you want to talk about?

I guess I can just kind of, to sum everything up, I would just say, you know, from personal experience that I wish I would have loved myself a little bit more, a little bit harder through some of those more rougher experiences instead of beating myself up about it. And about nothing I could do, you know, about it then. What's done is done. And you know, I, if there's anything to take away from any of my music or this, this album, this project in particular, it's the not beat yourself up about, you know, the little things in the past, big or small, and to just move forward and, you know, finding that little place of contentment, even if it's a brief one.

And it's just on to the next. And but yeah, just, just for me and you both, just love ourselves a little bit more. All right. That's good.

All right. Hey, I really liked that last little bit, Landon said, especially because we were pretty much finished and I was already getting ready to hang up and everything. And I just, uh, asking if there was anything else left to say and he said that really cool thing. I thought, anyway, make sure to look for Landon on all of these streaming services, Landon Gray.

He's got a couple of EPs out in, I believe, 19 singles. And then look for him on Instagram and TikTok. If you haven't subscribed to the podcast by now, I mean, I don't know what to tell you. It's out there WNC original music.

It's on all the streaming platforms. You should probably subscribe on several platforms because you never know which one you have on which device, you know, it's all very complicated. Just subscribe everywhere you can. It should be a list in these show notes or just, you know, just Google WNC original music.

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Who I are a psychedelic funk soul and rock band out of Raleigh, North Carolina. And their latest release is Paradox. It was mixed and mastered by dwarf star studios and carbora. Here is who I are.

Have a good week. That's my car. That's my condom. That's my gun.

That's my business. Get my seniors. Get my business. Get my car.

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Get your business. Good start.