Ep 167 From AA Famous to Ostracized Completely – Lilly's Story

Ostracized for leaving AA. Told she’d die if she walked away. Came back anyway. Left again. And is still here, and finally free.In this raw, funny, and brutally honest conversation, Lilly and I talk about what it’s really like to be "AA-famous," get shunned when you “go out,” and slowly realize the thing you thought saved you is also harming you.We get into informed consent, harmful sponsorship, Al-Anon culty offshoots, drinking again without going back to meetings, ADHD/dopamine, and why so many of us feel more broken after years in 12-step than we did going in.If you’ve ever:Been terrified to leave AA because “you’ll die”Been shunned or quietly dropped when you stopped goingWondered if it’s ethical for traumatized non-professionals to hear 4th-step confessionsTried to “work on yourself” to deathOr are just sitting in that after-recovery void thinking, “What now?”…this one’s for you. You are not crazy, you are not alone, and you’re allowed to change your mind.Timestamps:00:00 Shunned After AA Intro02:08 Leaving AA07:46 Taking What She Wanted, Leaving The Rest08:30 It's Unethical To Sponsor10:01 We Met In AA15:49 What The "Daily Reprieve" Actually Is22:40 What Helped Lilly Leave AA26:26 "Informed Consent" in AA33:46 Harmful Alanon + Amends 45:36 AA Breaks You Down48:19 Half Measures AA50:02 Full Blown Cult Alanon53:30 Connecting With AA Escapees56:20 Drinking Moderately1:05:36 ADHD, Dopamine, Addiction + Hobbies 1:14:39 Feeling Angry After Leaving AA1:23:32 Cult Within A Cult + Sponsoring Yourself 1:31:18 When Your Sponsor Leaves 12 Step👉 Deprogram Lounge (Deprogram community, courses, LIVE Q+As, Zooms, book club + more)🧰 Escape Kit (resources to Deprogram AA) 📚 Deprogram Book List (my fave deprogram, cult recovery and critical thinking books)🌀 Deprogram AA Course (free your mind at your own pace)Let’s get f*cking free.