EPISODE · Jun 1, 2025 · 44 MIN
Ep 17. Sleep Deprivation, Empathy Loss & Performance with Dr. Laura Vater - Unmasking Perfectionism Series
from Success Reimagined with Amna Shabbir MD · host Amna Shabbir, MD, NBC-HWC, CPC
“I have a license to practice medicine, but I don’t have a degree in martyrdom.”In this honest and heartfelt conversation, Dr. Laura Vater, a gastrointestinal oncologist, TEDx speaker, and creator of the SMILE Scale, joins Dr. Amna Shabbir to unmask the hidden costs of perfectionism in medicine. Together, they navigate the often-unspoken emotional toll of striving, sacrificing, and surviving in a system that rewards overwork and overlooks humanity.This episode challenges the idea that exhaustion is a badge of honor. Instead, it invites all clinicians and high performers to reconnect with their humanity, share their truth, and find freedom in rest.Together, they explore:✅ The unrelenting internal pressure to “do it all” as a physician, mother, and high achiever✅ Dr. Vater’s raw and courageous story of burnout and suicidal ideation during residency✅ How the culture of medicine reinforces perfectionism and emotional concealment✅ The impact of sleep deprivation on empathy and the science behind compassion fatigue ✅ The SMILE Scale—a simple, research-backed self-check-in for daily wellness ✅ Creating space for imperfection and redefining success as a human being, not a machine👤 About the Guest:Dr. Laura Vater is a gastrointestinal oncologist at the Indiana University Simon Comprehensive Cancer Center, where she leads the Young Onset Colorectal and GI Cancer Program. Beyond her clinical practice, Dr. Vater is a writer, TEDx and commencement speaker, and a passionate advocate for the well-being of patients and healthcare workers. She co-founded the Writing for Wellness Narrative Medicine Program at Indiana University School of Medicine and developed the SMILE Scale, a wellness behavior tool designed to support both patients and clinicians.🔗 Connect with Dr. Vater:📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doclauravater/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-b-vater-md-mph-44380738/🎙About the Host:Dr. Amna Shabbir is a Dual Board-certified Physician, Master Certified Coach, Professional Speaker, Employee Wellness Strategist, Mental Health Advocate, and Super Mom. She empowers high achievers to redefine success and create sustainable well-being via coaching, speaking, and virtual programs. Dr.Shabbir is the Founder of Amna Shabbir Wellness Coaching and the Early Career Physicians Institute®, where she empowers high achievers to redefine success and create sustainable well-being.This episode is part of her special book-writing project on unmasking perfectionism.🔗Connect with Dr. Shabbir:📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.amnashabbir/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amna-shabbir-md/🌍 Book Her to Speak: https://www.dramnashabbir.com/Speaking❌ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute medical or therapeutic advice. The views expressed are personal and do not reflect those of any employer or institution.❤️ Enjoyed This Episode?Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast.Share it with a colleague, peer, or friend who needs this message.
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“I have a license to practice medicine, but I don’t have a degree in martyrdom.”In this honest and heartfelt conversation, Dr. Laura Vater, a gastrointestinal oncologist, TEDx speaker, and creator of the SMILE Scale, joins Dr. Amna Shabbir to unmask the hidden costs of perfectionism in medicine. Together, they navigate the often-unspoken emotional toll of striving, sacrificing, and surviving in a system that rewards overwork and overlooks humanity.This episode challenges the idea that exhaustion is a badge of honor. Instead, it invites all clinicians and high performers to reconnect with their humanity, share their truth, and find freedom in rest.Together, they explore:✅ The unrelenting internal pressure to “do it all” as a physician, mother, and high achiever✅ Dr. Vater’s raw and courageous story of burnout and suicidal ideation during residency✅ How the culture of medicine reinforces perfectionism and emotional concealment✅ The impact of sleep deprivation on empathy and the science behind compassion fatigue ✅ The SMILE Scale—a simple, research-backed self-check-in for daily wellness ✅ Creating space for imperfection and redefining success as a human being, not a machine👤 About the Guest:Dr. Laura Vater is a gastrointestinal oncologist at the Indiana University Simon Comprehensive Cancer Center, where she leads the Young Onset Colorectal and GI Cancer Program. Beyond her clinical practice, Dr. Vater is a writer, TEDx and commencement speaker, and a passionate advocate for the well-being of patients and healthcare workers. She co-founded the Writing for Wellness Narrative Medicine Program at Indiana University School of Medicine and developed the SMILE Scale, a wellness behavior tool designed to support both patients and clinicians.🔗 Connect with Dr. Vater:📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doclauravater/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-b-vater-md-mph-44380738/🎙About the Host:Dr. Amna Shabbir is a Dual Board-certified Physician, Master Certified Coach, Professional Speaker, Employee Wellness Strategist, Mental Health Advocate, and Super Mom. She empowers high achievers to redefine success and create sustainable well-being via coaching, speaking, and virtual programs. Dr.Shabbir is the Founder of Amna Shabbir Wellness Coaching and the Early Career Physicians Institute®, where she empowers high achievers to redefine success and create sustainable well-being.This episode is part of her special book-writing project on unmasking perfectionism.🔗Connect with Dr. Shabbir:📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.amnashabbir/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amna-shabbir-md/🌍 Book Her to Speak: https://www.dramnashabbir.com/Speaking❌ Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute medical or therapeutic advice. The views expressed are personal and do not reflect those of any employer or institution.❤️ Enjoyed This Episode?Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast.Share it with a colleague, peer, or friend who needs this message.
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