What's up guys people I'm your host Jay wheel. This is inspire guys people where we balance faith in business to guide you to your purpose How y'all feeling man? Hopefully everybody's doing good out there. We got another great show, you know I'm saying I know a little a little while ago.
Y'all just you know some of y'all was celebrating Halloween So we gonna bring some word up in here to clean and jaw man You know I know y'all was out there while and you know I was at home chilling, you know saying I actually let me say this When they come to Halloween, hopefully, you know, I don't think my neighbors know I got a podcast They don't know me that will so hopefully none of these people see this in my community But I guess away man. I'm gonna just be real like people that know me know I don't want to be home on Halloween because it's too much for me. It's people knocking at you though I tried turning off the lights. It's just too much I ain't judging y'all look it is what it is.
I'll do what y'all do. I was chilling with my in-laws. We was we was low-key, so Look today all jokes aside. We're gonna dive into some apologetics.
I know this is a faith in business podcast So, you know when we get into the fake topics, I'm passionate equally about both, but this is important Y'all know that I'm about sound doctrine We've talked a lot about that through the years on the show and we've had apologists before but I think it's so important to you know Actually understand the word of God not just rock with your feelings. Y'all know how y'all are out there sometimes We like to just hear stuff that sound good. So every now and I like to get us back You know huddle us up and talk to some individuals who are well versed in the word of God and not just reading or knowing the word of God But like being able to rightly divide it so we gonna talk about some things with our guests miss Titus today So we gonna learn a little bit about her background, but also walk through the words So this is for the people that's hungry and thirsty for the for the word word y'all know We talk a lot about success and faith in business But I'm gonna be real with y'all if you out here just trying to be successful just for money or get your name and lights and all that Like you missing a whole point of this show. That's why strategically named it inspire guys people so that no matter how much We talk about other things that those things are rooted in sound doctrine.
So I'm gonna really be quiet right now You know I'm saying I'm gonna play this video intro if you listen in on Apple podcast Then y'all got to check us out on YouTube or Facebook And see the video you know I'm saying I'm working hard. I'm editing stuff We're trying to grow I appreciate you listening on Apple podcast But I mean at least like just watch the YouTube for five minutes and then check out the short clips We produce every day like subscribe all that stuff and then also my guest today You're gonna be able to see all of her information and find her at the links in the description of the show So look in there for the YouTube for the Instagram I think we're gonna have an amazing time again I'm gonna be quiet right now cuz I've talked like two minutes too long to be honest like two minutes too long I'll talk but let's do this Yo, what's up, what's up mr. Titus, how you feeling welcome to the show? Oh, I think we lost your audio somehow I Can't hear you I'm doing very very well very well.
I'm excited to have you on today's show man You know yesterday was Halloween and it's one of those things where I actually I'm gonna be real like people out there No, I'm crazy I didn't really playing it like that and I really was planning to do this show as like a pre-record And I just realized like I actually hit live so we are actually live That's just what happens and my people on this fire guys people know when I make a mistake We row it we only and we are live right now. So here we go day after Halloween. How you feeling? Today I've just been thinking about take off and all that stuff on with that So I'm a little bit down because of that, but let's let you know what let's jump right in right there.
Um Like since you brought it up Tell me what your thoughts are about that like we know that you know for anybody out there I'm assuming most people who watching this are are gonna know that on the young young man from a part of the meagos Lost his life last night in Houston Sad like super sad situation. What are your thoughts because I know that you know a lot of people been talking about rappers passing and So and so forth and getting murdered really Um, so just how you feel about that and what was your thoughts when you you know came across that story popular screen this morning? I was shot and I'm not gonna pretend like I'm a huge amigos fan I really know much about their music because I didn't but I have friends and family members and I feel like oh amigos Amigos when I heard the news I was like no they must be talking about somebody else because this person is too famous to have lost their life And so when I realized that he actually had passed I just thought it was so tragic Especially with his age and just thinking about the content of the music I'm like the disperson know the lore because if they didn't just the the thought of them being separated from god for eternity Like I think all christians should feel that right here, right? That's the part of the reason you know that we we have these platforms so we can help share the gospel because all of us Are gonna be on the other side one day.
I need to prepare for that. So I'm just it's just a heavy event and I hate that that happened to him Yeah, and I'll be real too. I'm in a similar situation I actually I've never heard the I'm sure I've heard the meagos because like I watched the NBA and I've seen them on the commercials and stuff But like I've genuinely never actually heard one of their songs or don't know their music But I've seen their faces. I've seen them around at a lot of sporting events and things That's typically how I tend to know about artists and stuff is like they into a basketball some way Um, and I do of course you got yahoo or something You can't check your email these days without just seeing things Um throwing in front you so the same thing I think for me Like the funny thing is I have a song When my brother gave her a parker called the other side And that's like what it's about what you just said and it's like this dilemma between like On this side we see things a certain way But we ignore the fact that we are gonna end up on the other side And um, I think that's a good leading into the fact that you know, um, you know You are you describe yourself as a christian who loves theology and apologetics And we think about that Can you like for anybody out there who doesn't know what apologetics is?
Can you um, maybe talk a little bit about theology and apologetics? Like just just for like a from an elementary beginning level if somebody out there like I never heard about that like apologize What's that you know? I'm saying it's like, no, like so let us know what that's about I sympathize with those people because I once was at person and honestly it wasn't that long ago So you are totally fine Um, but apologetics is defending the faith and it's called that because of the word apology that's in first peter 315 Where peter is telling people to always have a defense for the reason for your faith So, um, we we look at christianity not just from the scriptures But also like from his history like how do we know that what we believe is actually true? So it's defending the truth of what's written in the gospels and throughout the bible So that's just a general breakdown of what apologetics is and why do you think that's important?
So like if somebody out there like, you know what I'm like, I go to church It is what it is man. Like why do I need to now also be into apologetics or defending the faith? Even though like you just said it's actually in a bible But why do you think it's important? Well, because for so many people faith isn't enough I was a christian long before I knew what apologetics was.
I heard the gospel I read through the bible I loved the message of the gospel and that was enough for me to be a christian That's not enough for every other person, right? Because I grew up in the church. I grew up in a christian household So it was just kind of ingrained in me and then as I grew I was like, okay Yeah, I like this it sounds good to me But then I started to think like what if I am wrong because I have friends who have other belief systems So should I be should I remain a christian just because I was born in a christian household Or is there something um, is christianity true is the gospel true because if it's not true, then I shouldn't follow it But if it is true and I can use this to help explain to people their need for Jesus and salvation Then why wouldn't I use it? For me finding out that I don't just have to rely on blind faith To support my beliefs.
Yeah, that was Interrating for me like it's not just a well, I believe it and you don't so you know I guess it is Because you don't have enough faith It's like no because a lot of people especially with our society now They're trying to influence people to not believe that God exists and especially not the christian god So I think it's a great evangelistic tool So for those who have friends who are different cults or eight years or whatever like being able to defend your faith really could be that Thing that pushes someone to believe with gospel How like that's those are great points. How often have you had to utilize apologetics For like, uh, maybe you know, no offense y'all out there like a carnal christian or a superficial surface level christian That you know, like I think one of the you know a term that kind of flies out there It ain't that deep a lot of times people even that grew up in church I like saying as me I grew up in church But a lot of people they like it ain't that deep and because they grew up in it They're so used to having one foot in the one foot out It's almost like cold switching where like some people know how to be in church And then literally like just turn it off without thinking about it. Um, when they walk out those doors So like do you think of apologetics is something that could be useful for christians as well or no? I definitely think it's useful for christians But what you just said was important because it seems like christians who attend church and that's really the whole of their christian life They are the ones who really don't they don't see the need for it as much And I think it's because they don't evangelize But when you're actually Believe in the stuff that you read the gospels you know that we're all gonna die one day All of us are accountable like we're gonna have to stand before the lord If you really love people you're gonna want to help them not end up somewhere where they don't want to be right?
So our the whole point of the great commission is for christians to convince people of why they need the lord So unless you're not trying to convince people to me that's something that makes sense as to why you would need apologetics Because you're not trying to win anybody into the kingdom And like that's a great point. I also think if we being real like you said me growing up in church as well That blind faith is great like don't get me wrong It's amazing But there does come a time in life for everybody where like you said whether it's a friend a co-worker or somebody have you like Hmm like and you start second guessing and out and in the reason that I appreciate people like yourself and you know My homeboy LaVille Neil Elder Mike Holloway, you know people that I know and here in the in the Detroit area Is because we've all had those moments of doubt and When I started seeing people who didn't run from that but they ran to figuring it out. I was like, okay I like this like I like this idea of like not having to hide like oh we're not gonna talk about this because we don't want christianity To be exposed. I love the idea of kind of talking about things in the forefront So I would agree so for you miss Titus Where did this love or interest for apologetics start like if let's let me say this like if I went to high school or college With you with this I've been something I expected you to get into or was it like at some point like a huge switch Like like where did this interest come from?
There definitely was a switch there's some things that led up to it So I would say I was technically doing a Low-level form of apologetics in high school and college because I was familiar with the scriptures But it was just the scriptures. It wasn't all of the you know all of the things outside of the bible that kind of sorry I'm getting lost in my thoughts here, but I guess what I'm trying to say I'm trying to say is but I would be defending the bible to my friends in high school Like did you know that I said this is another Bible says this but that was the extent of it But what really pushed me over the edge into apologetics is I had a friend from church who converted to becoming a Hebrew Israelite And so we started to have regular debates. I'm like, I don't know why he's wrong But I know he's wrong because he was really tends to be very combative You got to keep the laws it's very workspace, right? And I knew that I'm like, okay We're saved by grace my faith through faith and it's not anything that we can do it's something that Christ gave as a free gift to us But he's saying that you have you pretty much have to work for it I'm like dude you know that we can't keep all of the law right like that's kind of hard But anyway as we're having these debates, I'm realizing that while he's wrong about major things like major things Also wrong about certain things right and even before that um our family we went to this church one day because we had we had like a Disaster in our neighborhood and this church came in to help us or whatever So we went to that church and they're preaching that sunday about modalism the Trinity and modalism, right?
And so I'm like, I'm a Christian so of course I believe the Trinity and what I came to realize during that sermon was that I Although I thought I believe the Trinity what I was believing was a false view of the Trinity with just a modalism And so I said I can't believe this whole my whole life God was one person and now this pastor is explaining to me that there is one God But this God is three persons and that was like mind-blowing for me, right? I'm like, well, do I have wrong now? How have I been in church my whole life never heard a sermon about the Trinity and that's important the character but the attributes of God is a big deal so that was a that was a thing and Getting into fights with Hebrew Israelites on the regular was a thing So then I'm reading Well, okay So then I started going on you two looking for videos on Hebrew Israelism and you start to find christians talking about it So I think vocab alone was one of the first people who I saw discussing it on a regular basis I'm like, oh, he's got a book. I'm gonna read the book.
Okay, then I start going to conferences And I'm like, okay, I'm talking about this stuff online and then I started a youtube channel So there's there's I'm sorry. I know that was all over the place I got into it, but that's the funny thing like that's how it happens like things like sometimes we try to like frame stuff up and like Oh, it was this step and this step and sometimes it's just life happening at different angles that pushes us towards a different way And I think anybody could relate to that and so so you talk about your youtube channel Which is I believe is just mistidest too. Is that what it is on youtube? So y'all, you know, if you're interested go check out mistidest too But I also if you watching this on youtube you can go on my youtube as far as people going to the description the link will be there Um, that all right.
So I was certain. Um, I don't know I typically search christian businesses or christian entrepreneurs But somehow I got like a suggested video from you and I don't remember if it was on Um instagram or youtube or whatever, but I'm gonna tell you what the video was I didn't tell you this It was the kirk franklin wrapping video. Now. I'm gonna tell you Why it was of interest to me is because I'm you know, I wrap most people that know me like I don't wrap as much as I use To with that, you know, I'm a christian rapper.
So I was offended In multiple ways and like hey, I've let you out there kirk if you ever see this I doubt it But I was offended in multiple ways at kirk franklin's performance personally And so I wanted to hear like I also knew about the line and area and we could talk about that I believe that's what you were talking about But that was why I clicked the video because anybody who was going to explain to me why kirk franklin was up here rapping like this I wanted to know like what does this person have to say? So can you tell me um, let's talk a little bit about your video with that rap for people who saw it I think it was the hip-hop beatc awards or something. Um, what did you talk about that from an apolyt jeddic standpoint? And maybe this could be an entry point like we talked about what apolyt jeddics is But for people to kind of um, maybe see it from an actual example of like why it's important Even if it's like a beloved figure which I think people struggle to talk about things and compartmentalize like hey, we know you love this person We're not like saying this person is the worst person in the world But it also doesn't mean that they may not do something publicly publicly that doesn't need to be addressed So let's talk a little bit about the kirk franklin video and what your take on that was Yeah, I love kirk franklin just like you and you'd be surprised, you know, if you may may or may not see this one day, right?
Um, but I when I saw him on the bt hip-hop awards I immediately felt like kirk. I'm not sure if that's a great idea because bt from 20 years ago The little different than it was today and I'm not saying it was great 20 years ago, right? Right But I'm like, okay, what is he gonna say? What is he gonna say?
And then there's the infamous line the line in the lamb will bow down to the goat And I just thought that doesn't sound very good, but I let that I let that ride for a few minutes Looked on facebook. There's like all my christian friends. I'm like, what was kirk talking about? Did he just say the line in the lamb without down to the goat?
So there was a lot of debate amongst ourselves. What do you mean? What's he blaspheming? And so I was like, I don't like this.
I don't think he should have stated it that way, but then I had some of my friends in christian hip-hop who said, well, I might agree with you that it didn't sound good But what he was actually trying to say is that Jesus is the greatest of all time All right, maybe that is what he was trying to say, but I don't think that was crystal clear I don't think that him using that terminology on the platform that he used it on was wise at all It was just all around confusing and I still feel as though it was also kind of a bash at the church Maybe he didn't mean it that way, but I forget what the line was, but he's like, you know, the church is always that the church sometimes can make characters I'm like, why are you gonna go on a secular platform and say that Jesus is the goat when people already got these conspiracy theories about Defiment and all that and then no one else has called anybody else to my knowledge the line in the lamb other than Jesus So to say the line in the lamb about down to the it was just confusing So I wanted to give kirk a fair chance and allow people to kind of get their thoughts out on it And also share my views on it. It's still an absolute no for me I know plenty of christian rappers who would say was tight as he was wrong because he was not last meeting Maybe he wasn't I still think the whole thing was a was a bad idea. So that's my keystone. Oh situation.
I gotta be real I'm with you It just as an artist and again, I'm not kirk franklin great But you know when you when you write whether it be even secular like the entire point of entendres and similes and metaphors Are for them to make sense like that. That's what people don't understand is like and I get it Sometimes people can be cryptic and you know, they do things in a way But typically when an artist is cryptic, it's purposeful, right? So my first question just artistically would be why would kirk be cryptic when talking about Jesus in that way? So like just for me logically that doesn't add up you feel me?
It's like if I was gonna be cryptic in a song that ain't the line that I would do it on in front of that audience This is an audience that I would think I would be going to to be very clear. Then I say this I don't understand as a christian artist why you would do something publicly that you know Will be taking a negative way Like and not be fruitful like some things you like I don't care if y'all take a negative because it's the truth But it's like if it's not gonna be fruitful it's gonna cause division and confusion It just rubbed me wrong and I just got to be real like this the part that hurt me to say y'all Um As a rap it was just horrible artistically it was horrible It wasn't it wasn't a good rap like I really don't think it was a good rap and I'm judging a rap not the person This is like when you're an American. I don't you say hey you go home Like I would have sent kirk home I'm just being real with you Sunday best he doesn't send many people home because they couldn't sing He loved him. God bless you.
I would have liked you go you leave and that's just me being real Let's see uh, we actually fam Johnson with a fam and I saw tanisha on here earlier with up tanisha fam says she think kirk knew what he was doing maybe a little clout chasing he knows better and I disagree with kirk's Perform fam. I think we on the same page here. Uh, my man pastor jorar books. What's up?
Uh, jorarar. Oh, he said kirk is t. Oh, that's an inside joke I'm not gonna tell y'all what it means, but it means that a jarada agrees. So, okay cool.
All right, so we talked about kirk frankly we got that out The way yeah I think you made a good point because when he said that the church makes characters that was crystal clear But when he's talking about the deity of christ, oh, it's hyperbole It's just like if maybe make the hyperbole about the church making characters and not using that hyperbole when we talking about the devia Christ, exactly and and I think sometimes as believers we like all right So you said something good too and we off kirk now But I want to deal with the principle of what you said and that is like this idea like people will say like all right Let's use going to the bt hip-hop or words Just as a christian using your gift or talent as a believer or minister, right? Because we like we go in and out of windows ministry and when it's not um, but we'll you'll hear people say artists I'm going to be a light in the midst of darkness, right? And when I struggle with sometimes there's really two things I struggle with the light in the midst of darkness And I'm going to become all things to all me Let's first deal with the light and the mr. Darkness if i'm going to be a light in the midst of darkness like Why is it that people do you think get in these environments?
And it doesn't seem that shine in the light is actually what they're doing and it seems like they're dimming their light so blend in again We're not talking about kirk now. I'm just talking about for all believers like what is it that you like in your opinion that you see just in our society today Where christians are are blending but it seems that they actually believe that they're being a light I think we have to be very careful when We surround ourselves with a community of non-believers, right? Now so paul says we're in the world and not other world he doesn't God doesn't expect us to not communicate and form friendships and relationships with non-believers But they shouldn't be the main people in your ear because they don't share our world you they don't understand what it means to be a christian They don't understand the requirements of God So if you continue to put yourself in these arenas where God is constantly being challenged sin is constantly being praised holiness is constantly being like Muffled you know, how can you really if you spend so much time there it's eventually going to affect you And then if you put on top of that money and being endorsed and going to you know headline concerts It will be very difficult for a person to not compromise some ways of shape somehow if they're always in that that type of scenario So I think at some point christians just have to recognize like as much as I would love to be on big stages and all that It is going to cause me to not really represent christ the way he needs to be represented Then maybe I don't need to be a part of it if kirk had a god up there And I know we're not just talking about kirk anymore But with his career anybody else if he had have gotten up there and really like shared the gospel on the shame at least I think it would have been at least like okay He actually did that but that's just not what happened and Most people it just seems like once they get those platforms, jesus gets further and further in the back So those are my thoughts. Yeah, you said something key too is like when you surround yourself around non-believers um and and especially like In a situation.
All right. I want to say this because you know as an artist I've heard so many arguments through the years, right? You will literally have people to say hey Well, this is my job. This is how I put food on my table And this is where again, you can't go in and out of it conveniently being a ministry because those are two different things You know if you work at target and your boss says you got to ring up five people Right and then you go and break your boss doesn't have to be a believer to tell you that but then if you say hey When I i'm a minister cashier like it's like oh, okay.
This is something new It's like well if you are in ministry, right then you don't need to be under the guidance of non-believers So you might need to go to a christian target make your own christian store or whatever So that when you are ministering and my point with that is I know for a fact in the music industry and a lot of these business industries The people in the boardroom aren't believers in their goal isn't to win souls Their goal is to increase revenue for their platforms and to um continue to get brand sponsorship dollars From their partners and their marketing partners So I think sometimes there's that conflict of interest where we just need to be real with ourself And you kind of said it like hey like just know yourself know what you can and can't handle with things like that Let's see my homeboy Gerard Brooks saying Kirk is anti-church. Oh, juraj is gonna take us this See I got I got the kind of friends. It's just go you see people following me. They just don't say it Hey, he stays anti-church every opportunity he gets he throws the church under the bus Some christians are so afraid to be rejected by the world that they are willing to make the church look weak and wack Man Because this isn't his first time doing something sketchy like that I'm not gonna say every time Kirk gets a microphone and he messes up because it's other times I'm like okay, Kirk Good job, but then that's been his to me.
I find it interesting. You know he goes on the breakfast club It's like I love you guys you guys are amazing then he goes on the devil war and it's like y'all are racist So I got I just had to say something about racism on the devil war Then you get on the vt awards rov wait everybody talking about women should have the right to abort their babies and he says nothing I'm just Kirk why was racism so important that you couldn't not say anything But the abortion issue was oh that don't have that to do with me. I think that's hypocrisy I think it's hypocrisy. I got to agree with that and that's look that's what makes like and I want people that's listening to understand something And I really want I actually want your opinion on this from outside looking in because I'm not an apologist Like, you know, I'm really not I'm not I don't try to post to be like I'm some expert in apologetics I believe in sound doctrine.
Um, I try to know my role and and do what I do but from the outside looking in It seems so challenging Of a position to have right now a role to play because people are so triggered Even with this not necessarily when my show but I'll use facebook for instance I had a facebook post go viral at the top of the year It's probably like 150,000 shares or something like that And I'm gonna be real. I actually get irritated. It's not my first post to go viral I get irritated every time a post goes viral every single time I get some of my nerves because it what ends up happening is You get all these strangers really who are just being negative and my post was literally about inflation back in january though Where it was somewhere between November and january before inflation was as talked about as right now So it wasn't a popular post But it's because people were responding emotionally because they have a political tie and I don't talk in politics That's I don't talk to people in politics. I'm a human being So I'm curious for you being someone um into theology and apologetics Have you found it like how do you handle because I know you're gonna get way more negative comments than I have I've actually throw Joe comments and saw some of this stuff How do you deal with that especially when it gets real personal and people just are emotionally triggered?
Like how do you navigate the waters of trying to actually have a conversation or dialogue or point something out like we did with kirk And also being able to go throw in a kirk Franklin song you leave here and people mistaken if you're thinking that you hate kirk or something So like how do you navigate those waters and apologetics? Well, I have people like usually when I get a lot of negative feedback or go to people who are I know will tell me the truth Who are mature like hey, did I say this okay? It could have said something different and if they say no girl You said that's pretty much it like that's fine. I'm like, okay So I do that and then when I'm going through the comments I've learned to if it's really negative and there's nothing no good thing can come for me reading the rest of that paragraph I'm just gonna keep scrolling keep scrolling I'll heart the ones that I like I'm like, okay This is good some people are liking it not that it's about the likes of dislikes But hey, I encourage myself with a thank you guys who like my comments and leave me positive comments And then I also have to remember that people aren't rejecting me They're rejecting jesus and it was so comforting to read that scripture for me a few weeks ago He said, you know, don't don't be um offended when they reject you because it's not about you They rejected me and so they're going to reject you, but it's not about you.
It's about they don't like who I am But we're still called to love them So um the Lord is dealing with me really praying for these folks because I know a lot of them are triggered because Something I said bothered them and sometimes being bothered at the truth can be the thing you need to get you to the other side Right like we're talking about the other side, but you know what I'm saying to get you First like okay, how can I prove it's tight is wrong. I would offer them to prove me wrong do some research You know what I'm saying? Do some proof me wrong. I would love you to prove me wrong and then stumble on 10 other apologists youtube pages So I said all that to say I try not to read too many negative comments Some people I will engage with because if I feel like this is something I can actually help with or sometimes you can kind of tell them to comment Somebody really just doesn't know.
Okay, maybe I might talk to that person, but if I know that somebody just arguing I'm like, yeah, I'm not even I'm not doing this with you today But it's tough and lastly on that I will say I have to remember that all over the world They're christians who are losing their lives. They're jobs, you know, they're having to Give up even their own their own rights to their body, especially women, right? Because christians are some of the most persecuted people raped in prison all these things if they can do all of that I can take a few negative comments, right? I feel that I feel that I feel that actually made what's up.
She said you mostly trigger Yes, that is facts and actually there's actually giving you some love right there. Thanks actually Negative in here. Um, no, I think that's a good point you made right? It's about that perspective and sometimes we allow things to hold too much weight And again, like part of the reason I do this show and I'm talking about gotten people to their purpose Like in a topic like this what I'm really you know, bringing someone like you want for It's so that we know that as we're navigating to our quote-unquote purpose and all these things We want to do it like that we have that perspective of understanding like the balance of being led by the gospel and that like godly success Is the success that we want?
But sometimes that's not going to look like you want it to so the world isn't going to like it And so I do want to say and I'm curious to have your thoughts on this Like do you think as believers that we are losing sight of what success really is or maybe a better way to access like directly actually like How do you define success? So let's use something practical you have a youtube channel, right? You're releasing videos. How do you like What do you qualify success and how do you manage that desire to I'm assuming grow that page With also not being focused on on numbers and things like that and more focus on the you know the message that you're putting up If I'm being honest that can be difficult, right?
I think you can make an eye on a lot of anything success feels good and I think it's fine to want success But when you have so many people Influxing you and telling you how great you are I think it's very important for us to reel back and say okay, lord Remember help me to remember that it's not about me It's about you and I think that has been kind of a scary thing that I'm seeing in like this online Christian social media area Like you can see a little bit of the pride starting to sink in I'm talking to myself too, right? Um, not that I even had a whole bunch of subscribers. I had a recent like I had I think I gained like 10 or 15 000 subs on youtube this year Because of a video I didn't be hot say that took me like I don't know 30 minutes to record I've been doing youtube for four years and all of a sudden I went I went viral and it was cool, but like you said With great victories come great responsibility and a lot of negative feedback Um, so you just have to be very careful and I have to remind myself too like get in your word Right, so it can't be all about social media and about applause from people you have to remember that the gospels at the forefront These are real people who are looking. I mean, there's of course trolls and robots too, but like it's called the bill and um Yeah, I would just say for anybody who's interested in content creation be mentally prepared because psychologically it can be very very tough But it is worth it because we know that we're fighting against the kingdom of darkness and they're obviously mad So a lot of times when you're getting a bad feedback a lot of times it means that you're doing something right so yeah I love that how has for you like you know growing on social media, right?
And I agree with everything you say about a way because I because I think I actually think it's it's constant I um one of me and my boy gave gave a parker. Um, he actually has a podcast path the revelation podcast actually he's a pastor now The path the revelation church. Um, and one of the things we talk about is the necessary struggle for christians, right? Like I think sometimes people have unrealistic expectations and this utopia this desire for utopia is not is not godly in my opinion Um because I don't see in the bible anywhere where someone reached some level never hey, they've had goliath Um, Daniel had the Babylonians they Joseph had his brothers didn't he had potter for his wife I mean Moses had a fair role like you can just go on and on and it's like you're not going to find someone, you know Ruth lost her husband had to go following a on you You're just not gonna find someone in the bible who's just like here.
I am pure worldly success I never have to worry about trials and sometimes I think we just lose track of the fact that like hey There's a necessary struggle as believers that you don't have to like I find myself like this year This year has been a challenging year for me in ways like just in not like in nothing crazy or traumatic But just like in business and hitting the wall and like even during that through success And I'm realizing as a believer hey, I might have to chill some weeks. I didn't do a podcast Oh, man, I you know, maybe lost a little momentum And you just got to be willing to kind of go through all of that so I love that you that you um that you brought that up Let me ask you this moustitis Is there a topic you talked a little bit about the the Hebrew Israelites? That's you know, where you started with apologetics Is there a topic that you just like love like something that you like? Oh, like when somebody bring it up you like this my one like I like talking about this and if so like what is that?
Uh, well, there's probably two so now this obsession I have with talking about the trinity Reason for that is because so many coats are anti-trinity And I feel like that's a great talking point if you can show them that they're I their view of god is wrong in the scripture clearly shows god Is trying to like that's a great place to start right? Um, but recently so I would say for the past year and some change I talked a lot about fraternities and sororities and I don't know if you're in a fraternity. So if you are I'm so sorry This is what I love about this show though and I want you to know this I'm not gonna answer your question yet But even if I am in a fraternity like I am a believer that like I don't like we should learn how to hear different perspectives And I want to I'm saying that specifically for the emotionally triggered people out there You have to grow in the spirit to be able to at least like if I'm a fraternity right and I just cut you off Just because you were about to say something that I might disagree with how do I ever become better? Like we don't have to do that.
So I'm gonna let you talk and whatever my god being Otis out there I saw you coming and being thanks for watching all right, so go ahead if I'm in a fraternity go ahead Like slice me up I'm not I'm not an opportunity, but That makes things a little bit easier, but I know that is a an area that a lot of Christians don't want to touch with a long Up with the long cold. I'm sorry I'm not gonna use that example. I can't remember any people fall maybe yeah There you go I go there for one because a lot of Christians pastors all that kind of stuff are in these organizations Some people who have been very influential on the black community our church communities are fraternities and sororities But I just started doing some research on it because I had a comment like hey I'm I'm about to be a freshman in college next year. Can you do a video on fraternities and sororities?
So I had an experience when I was in college. I tried to get into what sorority didn't quite work out Wasn't quite a great experience. Okay After that I was like, you know, this is not cool. So I had to take a step back.
I was like, okay, lord I'm interested in this topic, but I want to do it justice. I don't want to approach it in In a way or in from the first pick of them I'm angry at them because I I wasn't accepted into this group that I really wanted to be a part of When I was at college. So I said what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna read their material I'll read books that that are written by them. I will read articles that I read by them I will listen to them talk about their experiences and discuss it from that angle because I think that's the fair The best way to do it and what I found was that for me I believe that fraternities and sororities while this is not um I don't want to offend the individual people who are in them, but I think organizationally I think these are groups that deter people from the gospel That's just what I have found just from reading their information from challenging those who are in these groups If you look through those comments as well, it's very cult-like, right?
So I feel I feel like um christians who join them at some point you're going to compromise And for the most part I'm talking about like D9 because I just researched D9. So that's divine not most of the black organizations Um from the research that I found You're going to compromise. So I don't think that christians should be a part of that I'm not saying that if you're in it that you're not a christian There are some apologists who I know who are infaternities and sororities They go white the floor with me when it comes to like hermeneux and all that kind of stuff So I'm not saying all I'm saying is for me it's no so I did a deep dive project into that and free masonry And I had a lot more that I want to say about that I just had to take a break from it because I have no life gets in the way But that is my project that i'm going to probably continue to talk about in the future So fraternities and free masons, okay, um, let's see We got a couple comments. What's up rischel rischel say that's how we change listening 100 percent for sure That's what this show is about and that's really like what i'm trying to engage people really to be human because I actually think listening is human Lola key.
What's up? Lola. How you doing? Thanks for watching and uh cuz sandra she just is like slices she tell slice it on up Um, I do look to the listeners out there to watchers, man I do I do hope this like I'm gonna just say like something that concerns me in the world today I look at look and I think maybe i'm of the last as an older millennial.
I'm like I feel like we are the last Um, I'm saying we I don't know how old you are But i'm just saying like for me my generation. I feel like we kind of borderline the last one who grew up In the real world and we're around for the introduction of social media and internet And I do think there's a huge advantage of that because like to the generation older than me my parents and stuff Maybe looking at the iphone like what's this thing? Eight of people that be like on uh, maybe on uh on facebook like this with the phone all of it You know and they face so they don't know technology as well Then the younger generation now coming up or like what's outside like they scared to go outside and play and things like that I'm making a point here about this When you spend time with real human beings one of the things that i've seen and noticed is that people don't act like human beings on social media So as an example like me, I've had the pleasure of actually meeting a lot of like A lot of my followers i've met in real life because i've done music and speaking and been around And what I always notice is like in real life how people are they come up to you Hey, how you doing nice to meet you? It ain't about like no picture and no weird stuff just like anything to picture is weird But I'm saying I don't really get that kind of energy I get people that usually want to talk to me or something and i'm like, okay, this is very human And i'm telling you I'm liable to say something more controversial in person I'm the kind of person in person i am much more liable to say something people be looking like as I but once you book me and i'm in your church And i'm talking i'm here now so I will I say some stuff But I noticed like online is the exact opposite in person i could say something super controversial But you see me you feel like you you try to spear by the spear see what i'm about but online You can say the littlest thing and people like i've said the most simple basic post and people will lose their mind Block you hate you all of that and i'm like no one does this in real life No one is in McDonald's and here's a conversation talking in front of them and just like welcome to them like I block you Right it doesn't happen.
So anyway, I don't know why i went on that tangent I'm sorry, but I just wanted to say like there's a humanness in listening and I just I appreciate conversations like this I'm not as um so i'll say just to say about the fraternity piece because if somebody watching i didn't say nothing They might be like trying to figure out where i'm at like that's not something i am an expert on I have friends family people around me that I know that are infaternities, right? It's something that intrigues me because I would say personally i'm not comfortable with it And there's a specific reason i'm not comfortable with it. I've actually advised people like not to do it as well um, but also to your point there are some Prominent smart people to send it and this is the idea where you can have a conversation and end about sending somebody to hell or something But I do think it's important The reason i'm uncomfortable with it personally is i've seen some of the documentation and some of the oaths that you have to make And for me Like I literally read some of the oaths and i'm like yo, this is and i'm talking about this is with no education Like very basic i'm reading it. I'm like yo, they literally pledged into a guy And I just don't know for me personally I would have to that's a conversation i'll be interested in hearing and a debate i would be interested in hearing because I want to hear both sides of like How people justify that but i'm just at that kind of situation like it's a no for me Um, but again, I got friends followers on instagram facebook that's a fraternity's i ain't sending y'all to hell But I do think it's worth the conversation and um if it's something you're really comfortable with just like christianity That's the beauty of apologetics and debating things like if you're comfortable with it You should be able to hear the other side and steal in uh kind of the same place Uh, let's see jaraz says just want miss tightest to know that he enjoys your videos.
Love your channel and uh, thanks a lot jarato Yeah, I actually got a couple friends that know you they're familiar with you so they've seen my boy lavelle said the same thing He's like man like you know, i'm like okay cool. So so people know That's that's dope. Um, all right before we get out of here I want to ask you a couple of this is like super random questions Okay, but I saw you make a video about this and i'm gonna tell you something just so I can ask you this question I watched a video on mute so I don't know what you're gonna answer what your answer is on this but um What comes first the chicken or the egg and why were you making a video about this and i'm gonna be honest with you like I'm gonna let you talk first like what comes first the chicken or the egg and what significance It has to be something important behind it because you had a video about it whether you remember this video or not It's on your instagram page. I don't even remember it.
I want to say the chicken comes first You think the chicken comes first this is it's a tough one for me because it's like If the chicken can well All right, the reason I think okay, there's a reason that I kind of think it's the egg And that's because I think about when god formed at him like even though god created him like he still Mixed like it still was a was a some cooking that happened He wasn't just like bam. There you go And I feel like I could see god being like okay, here's this egg and then the first chicken ever coming out of that Before I could just see the chicken popping up That was a debate you didn't expect to have on this show. I know I feel like I kind of remember saying something like that but I can't remember which video it was now It's all good. Just tell people you came on this fire guys people I just shredded you in the debate about the chicken Like it's a wrap.
Oh no before we get out of here first of all, I do really appreciate you I've enjoyed this the time went super fast, which is a great thing when you're having a good conversation I want to make sure I do you the last words. So like just what would you say to the people out there? I know I know we um, you know didn't go into a lot of specifics and apologetics My goal really was for people to understand the importance of it And they also hear kind of how you think through some things But how do you um stay sharp like if a person is out there and they're interested in like beginning their journey to get in apologetics Where would you advise them to start and go? I would say if you have never read through these scriptures from cover to cover start there Get really familiar with the bible if you're already there.
Um, some of my the first apologetics books that I read Lee Strobel the case for christ Um Oh, man. I read so many of us. I'm like, well, what were the first books I read? I know Lee Strobel was one of them.
Um, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist by Frank turrick and norman geysler That book it just shows you how silly it is to say that there's no god because science Overwhelmingly supports the idea of a creator a god a lot of people today think it's the universe It can't be the universe because the universe has a beginning Albert Einstein even confirms that right so if the universe has a beginning Then then who why is why is there beginning? It can't be god if it has a beginning, right? Um, and then I deal a lot with urban apologetics Maybe not as much now as I used to when I first started youtube But the book urban apologetics that was edited by pastor eric mason is a game changer Um for those who really need to get into the heber is your light stuff black atheism Bit black feminism all these types of things that are becoming more and more popular within the church That book I think every christian should have it on their show because I feel like we're in a time now We're pretty much everyone kind of has to know some apologetics christianity used to be the the religion that everybody Affirmed and was comfortable with that's just not where we are now it's getting much harder to become to be a christian right now Um, so I think we really need to equip ourselves one because the bible talks about how people are to see people fall away I don't want to be one of the people that falls away. So therefore I need to be reading my bible on a regular basis because no matter how many times you read it You need to make sure that that you know what's in there right?
And I want to be sharp on the things that are going on in the world So I stay on top of hot topics not just for clicks You know people accuse me of that all the time But I'm like I'm gonna be methodical about these clicks if y'all want to talk about tia Maori and her smudging We don't talk about it from a christian perspective too And I finally had to get to the point where I'm tired of people telling me my opinion doesn't matter because I'm a christian Y'all's opinion matters so does mine people keep trying to shut up the church and we we gotta come out of that closet They try to push us in the cause we gotta come back out of these causes and and say our piece about it too because I don't know how much longer we're gonna have these freedoms and so I just want to use it for as long as I possibly can I'm not sure if that really answers the question But okay, okay, it does and I love that you said that like our voices matter I'm even realising that more and more The more that people are forcing like trying to force opinions and believe someone you in trying to silence the other side Again the importance of something like apologetics is engaging and having conversation and being able to Present your side not just force your side and I'm gonna tell you anytime someone tries to force something on me Like I'm skeptical of it like don't force nothing on me like talk to me and I see the world engaging in that a lot Where they just trying to force their opinions and we got it We got to get out of this emotionally driven state where we just you know respond and react to everything without thinking So I love that Rochelle. Rochelle said something really important So the people who listen to my podcast that's an inside joke for my followers that you probably are not aware of but I tell people their life is in shambles because they don't listen to this podcast and I think we just proven that it's true I got a couple more rapid fire questions before we get out of here just real quick All right, what is your favorite book of the bible and or scripture? Oh Can I do Old Testament and New Testament? I'm with it.
I'm with it. Okay, so on Old Testament I love first and second Samuel because I love reading about David. I mean, it's just it's a fun. It's a fun book to read exciting Yeah, first and second ones.
I would say in the New Testament I love Romans because I just love the the breakdown of theology and the book of Romans I think every Christian should really pay attention of course to the whole bible But for me that book was like oh, so this is what Christianity is about. So yum. Okay favorite bible person I don't like to call them characters because they end people take it as like they're made up characters They're people so your favorite or most intriguing person. I know you said you like to read about David Um, so I don't know if that's who it's gonna be but like who's your favorite person in the bible Or at least some interesting person or people in the bible to you Oh, that's such a good question.
You know what? I'm probably gonna go with Joseph Because that'll masquerade like him getting his brother's bag. It's pure genius. It's hilarious.
It's like it just touches on so many different emotions Thank you, Joseph. I appreciate all of it That's my favorite on people who listen to show know that and last question like the most low key underrated scripture that nobody talks about that blesses your soul Like i'm talking about something that's like, you know, we i'm like for all the scriptures in the bible It seemed like we go we float around the same 15 to 20 scriptures that everybody knows So i'm always interested like okay Like what's the scripture that you don't hear talked about a lot that that people um that that blesses you I'm gonna tell you mind why you're thinking ecclesiastes one and 18 for me is one of them one of many Um, and that is with much wisdom comes much grief And I just relate to that because really the more you know the more the lord shows you Um, it can't grieve you and you have to balance that and that's where you feel the urgency to have conversations like these Because the lord has allowed you to see like how it all really comes together what it all really means and the importance of it So I feel like ecclesiastes one and 18 is definitely a um, a son hero scripture for me For me, I've actually changed my answer. I was like, oh, here's your right So I think mine would be fear not what man can do to the body of fear god who has the power to throw both body and soul into hell Yeah, that's a heavy hitter too That's a heavy hitter. So all right you you ended as well right there Well, look miss tightus.
I have definitely enjoyed having you on the show Listen everybody if you want to keep up with miss tightus and everything that she's doing is miss tightus too on youtube And is it the same on instagram or is just miss tightus? I'm sorry at miss tightus on instagram. I believe This is yeah right now on tick tock and instagram is just at miss tightus. Yep And like I said check out the description of the show if you listen to apple podcast or YouTube I think facebook is the only one where you don't have the description here So just you know type in and search miss tightus on instagram tick tock where youtube she has some amazing videos I didn't even get to ask all the questions I had because we had such a great conversation But thank you and uh, you know, we got to keep in touch and let's try to do this again.
All right, absolutely. Thank you Appreciate it