Hello and welcome to WNC Original Music Episode 184, the Straight Flush episode. This week happy to have returning to the podcast Cutless. Cutless is a dynamic alternative rock duo that draws heavy influence from the music of the late 60s to early 90s. That's 30 years, folks.
Their influences include Sam Cook, one of my favorites, Jimmy Hendrix. I like him. The Beatles, my favorite. Drake.
Ehh. I like Nick Drake. Love Cake. Beethoven.
Heard of him. Soundgarden. Like him. Prince.
Love him. Rihanna. Not a fan. And the human condition.
Not familiar. We're talking in this episode about their fourth studio album called The East, available at all the streaming services. Just search Cutless Music or follow the links in the bio. Here is Cutless.
You know, uh, this is not on topic, but I would tell you to check out the band. What was it? Linen Claypool Delirie. So I don't know if you ever, it's John Linen's son, Sean Linen.
And then let's Claypool on bass and they just recorded this album. The first one they got is phenomenal. Like, so I definitely checked that out. But they, in their subsequent album, they got one and it's like, I watch the interview and they're talking about Ron El-Hugger and I'm like, okay, this is going.
So, I'm like, I have no idea. So, any of it. Need to hear it over there. I'll check it out.
Shepherd. Shepherd. The crack. Oh, it's actually called the Claypool Linen Delirie.
I stay corrected. I will count that as my third misstep. Okay. Third misstep.
Alright, let's talk about the song Shepherd. Shepherd. As I alluded to earlier, a lot of these songs have references to what is very important to me. It's the most important thing, which is Christ.
And again, this is Christ. Jesus Christ to me. Yep. And, uh, this one is just talking about how you can feel very lost at times.
And when you do not have that, then I can definitely attest to that. And I won't go into detail here or that, but yeah, we want to talk any up. Now about this one. You can proselytize on the podcast.
That's alright. Cool. What is cool about this one and what I was very, I guess, I was like, this has got to be one of those advantageous songs that has to come about because it's so minimal. It's so, it's a very stripped down version of a lot of what we play.
And it's got that start and stop thing that I really enjoy. And then let's see, it's got, this is actually one of the few songs. I think this is one of two songs in the entire thing that has keys on it. So I put the chord on there.
Towards the end, it's got a nice little thing in there. But I guess the hardest thing for me on this one was not playing a guitar solo ever. Just by and obnoxious. Over it because it needed it.
But I know let me just chill and do this one the way it's supposed to be. And that is it. That was very chill. Alright.
Albumart work is, uh, is awesome. I would have to say it's actually a napkin from an event that I was at. So, or that out there. It's a cool little nugget.
We'll cut this, cut trivia there for you Easter egg. What's a, what's the favorite or at least a really good show you played? We did have a good one in Big John's. And John's in our boy Hunter.
Hunter, Hunter, Lincoln. What was so great about that? Well, we had a lot of friends come out for that one. Did people rest their stage?
Maybe a little bit. That was my last weekend down there before I moved up here. I was living down there for about five years and had a lot of friends come out and see us. It was kind of a little second home for us and a little bit of a last two raw, maybe even farewell.
Time for now. We'll be back down there. He probably comes spring time. I imagine it went to two places back down there probably again at Big John's if we had to choose.
Yeah. Yeah. That was good. We like, we like playing at the Frejord.
Frejord's always fun. Got to love a new way sometimes. New ways to go. We'll be back there soon as well as Spartanburg.
I enjoy the fret. Well, we've been again in Spartanburg. Yeah, I really dig the outdoor thing. We got a lot of love and we've gone out there.
It's pretty fun. And then here recently, Dry Falls, brewing here in Hendersonville does it up pretty nice for us and we're playing an old, what was it like, old tire shop or something? But it's a brewery now and it appears pretty chill. So go check them out.
And if you're curious about where to see us next, you can find us on Instagram. Keep it a secret. Yeah. I had to whisper that.
Yeah, don't worry. That's good. Yeah. That's exactly right.
Oh, we've been playing that one close to the whole time. Yeah, that one's going to drop D. So go ahead and fix that top string. If you go and play it now.
And what I'd say about that one is probably one of our favorite ones that we do. Yep. Just an awesome one. Our good buddy.
Cool, do we kudzu likes to cover that one a lot. Big shout out. Cool, do we kudzu? Go check him out if you haven't seen it.
Yep, great tune. And I was just a general client days. We let that out. Yeah, I forgot.
I forgot. I forgot. So I was... Oh yeah, you're a general employee.
Are you both previous? No, I'm not myself. I left out of Chris. I worked at a distribution center.
And it was grueling. I was doing that while I was going to college. I was doing a night shift there. And I was not fun.
So some of those lyrics kind of came from that. I've been working so hard all day long. I had to not have a bike to eat, not a draft or drinks early. I think a lot of the lyrics sometimes can be a little light, you know, as in not many words.
I clearly don't have that problem on the podcast. That can be a little bit of a word. Cannon. Well, working.
I like that. That's my other band name. Yeah, you can use that one out, for sure. Yeah.
But I like that can be a little bit of a beep cannon. I think so. I think so. I think it's nicey.
Now, but what I say musically about that song that is so cool is just it really hits there. And the point is that it's not that little section. It's got that little part. It's got that little part.
Kind of in between the first and the last section. I struggle to say chorus because all I'm saying is like, I mean, so a lot of ooze. I remember those in Oz. That's what you go here.
Not a lot of words, but I'm listening to words handing on the feel for that one. Exactly. Yeah, I feel. Big feel.
The band names are just going out all over the place. All right. Do you guys have to have a piece of paper and something to write with? I didn't prepare you for this.
I want you to take don't look at those paper, but I want you to describe your sound in three genres. And you can't say, Oh, we defy genres. We've got to get three genres and then we'll see how close you get to each other. Oh, so this is the new way.
Yeah. Okay. Oh, I never tried. Let me see if I can play.
So, Jeopardy. Don't forget to put your bets down. I bet the following the color. All right.
Will. Okay. I think we got the neo indie Prague is where I'm at. I like that.
I like the neo indie indie. Yeah. So I was torn, man. Had sight grunge gospel and sight grunge rock.
So I was clear on two of you know, I like the I like just grunge groggs. I like the I like the Prague and I think like that because the Prague part is really cool because we do a lot of the switching times. We'll kind of run over the first house we played. We've been doing a math rock thing the whole time.
Yeah, it's an off everybody. Oh my god. We're not dancing this shit. I mean, you get out of that.
We are. I have one at a time. I see it now. We didn't play it on this show here, but I encourage I implore you to do it.
I implore you to check it out. It has some very odd times and then like subdivisions at the time. Like I remember that's the song I was talking about. Will was like, what is there?
So that was very first song. That one is 15 years old. That one's for sure is 15 years old. I'm not feeling this.
But it worked out. That's actually really good. It was a special place in my heart that I see it now. Yeah.
Yeah. A lot of it can be Matthew and Tricky and. You know, got to be ready for that. I'm always drawn to the grunge because it's just got to be.
That's what we're about. It's Neo. And that's what I like. I think this is actually Neo indie pro.
You have to put Andy in there because you don't want to hear any of that corporate Neo pro. No, that's the thing. Let me be clear. More from Cutless Music in just a few moments.
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Wherever you get your podcasts. Or by typing wncoriginalmusic.com into your internet browser. Hi, this is Mike Koya. Thanks for checking out my new song Feel For You.
It's a song that means a lot to me. I hope you enjoy it. Tell me. Corrections and clarifications from last week's episode with Sycamore Bones.
Data is like a set of numbers or facts about a certain subject. And data is what my cousin used to call our grandfather. So we were both right. Hi, this is Jody Hildebrandle.
And this is Jordan Lee. Together we are the community have years and you're listening to you WNC original. You're listening to WNC original music. And to tomorrow's as we'll never come for you.
So that's a good one. And this one I went back and forth about the Doggum on the title here and album art. Anyway, the song is actually called Goodbye. So you're just messing with me.
You just send me a song with the wrong title. Yeah, it's a I guess that's number four on me. Strike four. Which I guess means death.
Okay. See it. Okay. That's not a brand new one.
A brand new one. That one punchy as well. One two. One two.
One two left right and a little left and a little right. Who the whittle up? All right. Sorry.
By the way. Anyway, so that song is very chill. Again, we'll mention this earlier. This is so critical.
You've got to record this. I was like in the moment. Like when you're feeling like I can't. And you know what I actually said is I saw this on a TikTok.
Hey, they say all the kids are in a TikTok. Whatever. The kids like you young. You know what I'm saying?
I heard him say that. I don't take talk. He Kirk of Maine been joined him. Anyway, too dark.
Anyway, he said don't force the song. Don't force the song. You know, don't force it. If you don't have anything to write, then write.
If you have something to write, write it. And I was like, and I really feel that. And also, feeling the flip side. You're saying, I'm talking about my doctor.
Anyway, like little Wayne's mentality is like you got to go into the studio with clips and like you got to be ready at all times. Like you couldn't record it anytime. So there's somewhere in the middle of that. But I do like the piece about if you're not feeling that's what this song is.
Like I was feeling that at the moment. This one actually hits real hard for me because there's a lot of different things here. But all the time back to the East, like not going back to that, not coming home. There's different references here for me personally.
But I like the Jones's reference because a lot of people get tied up in that. It's like, I have to do this unknowingly. They don't even know that they're trying to like feed into that corporate thing that we're talking about. You know, like I got to keep up with them.
I got to buy that. Whatever that is. What does the people buying these? They toy the Corolluses.
What type of thing? I'm driving big ultimate energy. So anyway, like I got to have this and that's the best thing. I was like, but also on the other side again, we'll kind of thank them because they're pushing you to new heights.
But don't get tied up into that. You know, don't get tied up into that thing. And then also, of course, my grandmother's in the hospital right now and I don't know if she got coming home because of her Alzheimer's. So that one has another little nugget in there for me that was very tough.
But everything can be taken as a different meeting. And that's not what the song is necessarily about. But definitely about the Jones's like how let's keep up with them. That's going to mess you up.
But if you did keep up with them, you can actually thank them too because they help you get to advice that you weren't at. So anyway, big government take it over. I feel like you just add that at the end of every, at the end of every sentence. I like to have a big Mac making it a number five meal deal and big it up and big government.
So, the government please. Next question. What has been your favorite part of this interview so far? Hmm.
That part where zoom cut out and you had a break from it. That was kind of cool. What in a serious question about what you guys are really thinking about that? Favorite part so far?
Well, it's you Ron. Oh, that's absolutely. That is the correct answer. We haven't actually done an interview in quite some time.
So, well, how do we do it? Year plus. My body year. Year and a half.
Yeah, so it's good. This is good. I feel like COVID just shut the entire world. So I appreciate you for having an alternative method here, even though we don't have a COVID spike necessarily.
But no serious, I mean, you got to keep self healthy and I appreciate you for being able to have all of this. You're working on that. We've been following you for years and year two, probably closer to two years. Yeah.
One of our songs a long time ago. Yeah, I remember that. And it was trash. I was like, God, he's saying that to myself.
Exactly. I don't want to come out. I mean, now that the cat's out of the bag, you know, look at us now. Right.
You can say it. I can't. I can not. I can not do it.
You know, used to want to be used to. It's a title from that one. That one is up there is used to. You can't even know.
So here's the deal. That song is very Prince inspired. Imagine that. What a shocker.
This guy we almost. Yeah. It's funny. I'm going to put the cart before the horse.
Go with the baby out with the bathwater, as you might say. But as soon as I moved up here to Hendersonville, I don't know. Sometimes I change the scenery. English is my seventh language.
It must be clear on that too. Anyway, so. Maybe any of the one through six languages. New spaces allow you to sometimes have a different perspective on writing music.
So this one came out and I was like, kind of just sounds too rolling stones. It sounds too Cheryl Crow. And I was like, what? It sounds too Prince.
But I couldn't get out of a head. So lay that down and then it's got a nice little. What's that part called? Middle part.
This is the. This is the. It's a funky time. It wouldn't be without the time split up.
I can count that when I get back to it. Please do the needful. Yeah, there's the middle part that I'm always talking about here and not a hundred percent sure what we got going on there. But it sounds bitching.
A hundred percent. And I stand behind that. A lot of positive feedback on that one. I was concerned that people would think that was too close to the Roland sense or Cheryl Crow or Prince or something like that.
But at the end of the day, I've spent very, very little time concerned about what others think and just released it. It's a fire drag. And if you don't have it saved, you're spotify from your mom's Wi-Fi, then that's on you. I like the emphasis at the end there.
That's. This paper was over here. It was bought here. OCD.
Other than W and C original music. Do you guys have any podcasts that you like to listen to that you recommend for people? Yes, yes. Oh, my God.
Everybody go check out. It's a TullyDO. It's at TullyDO show on Instagram. You go find them formerly stone and steel radio.
Those are our buddies out of LA and big fans. I think that's probably my favorite one. There's one across the pond. We're messing with radio one.
I'd have to get you the exact guys names Kirk. So you didn't hear it from me. But TullyDO, our boys out there are definitely it. We still have to ship him a fish.
We did that interview. We talked about fish or something. He wants to send him a dry ice. I'm kind of fishing with Ketchum over here.
He wants it fresh. He doesn't want it frozen. So we have to figure out how to do that. I don't have to budget.
He's an England did you say? He's actually in Los Angeles. Oh, OK. They've been friends with us since the beginning.
They do a lot of little smaller people and they do really well with putting people out on the map, all across the country, for people to discover. I'll give you $1,000 if you were legally allowed to ship a fish to California. We're all lost. We'll see what happens.
I'm rock and roll. I'm rock and roll. It's called Outlaws and Rock and Roll. I think I'm your fish band.
It's either way. You choose a fish. Hell of a band. It must not be.
All right. Again, I want to thank Cutless the band, Cutless Music, who are being on the podcast. Don't forget to find Cutless Music at all the streaming services and check the show notes for their social media. Including our TikTok.
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Check it out. I hear it's good. I hear good things. Hey, if you've listened to the podcast any amount of time, you know, Land and Grey.
He's a great friend of the podcast. He's been on a couple of times with closing songs and this week is no exception. He sent this new song of his called Small Things. I love it.
I think you're going to love it. It starts for Land and Grey at all the streaming sites. Have a good week. Have a good week.
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