Ep#187 Data-Driven Strategies Without Data with Erik Norman

Dive into an enlightening conversation on The Jon Myer Podcast with our distinguished guest, Erik Norman, a FinOps specialist from Italy, who challenges conventional wisdom by embracing data-driven strategies even in the absence of data. Uncover Erik's unique journey from software engineering to becoming a global subject matter expert in system integration, and how a pivot during a critical time led him to the cloud and FinOps. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in cloud cost optimization, efficient cloud migration, and the transformative power of a data-informed approach, even when data is scarce. 🔔 Don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and hit the notification 🔔 ✔ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/jonmyer/?sub_confirmation=1 📱 Social Media Twitter: https://twitter.com/_JonMyer Website: https://jonmyer.com LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-myer/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0wjJzdIwctq4o4pTXM2KSF #aws #awscloud #podcast #podcasting #costoptimization #finops #cloudcost #cloudoptimization Key Takeaways:- The importance of starting with a strategy even in the absence of complete data. - The benefits and pitfalls of the lift-and-shift approach to cloud migration. - Understanding the broader implications of costs, beyond just financial figures. - Strategies to engage and motivate engineers to embrace efficiency and cost optimization. - The impact of company culture and structure on the success of cloud and FinOps initiatives. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to stay updated with more insightful episodes from The Jon Myer Podcast! YouTube Timeline 00:00 - Introduction to the concept of strategies without data 00:15 - Erik Norman's introduction and background01:38 - Transition to cloud and FinOps 03:40 - The evolving tech landscape and cloud advancements 04:04 - Discussion on FinOps and its implementation challenges 08:00 - The importance of KPIs and executive support in cloud migration 12:55 - How to build data-driven strategies in the absence of data17:24 - Debating the best approach to cloud migration: Optimize before or after? 22:54 - Delving into the complexity of cost optimization and its implications 29:56 - Encouraging a culture of efficiency and ownership among engineers 33:48 - Comparing cloud adoption in startups vs. enterprises3 8:13 - The role of silos and office politics in cloud transformation 43:26 - Erik's advice for implementing FinOps and driving change 46:36 - Conclusion and farewell