Ep 19: The Power of Holding Grief and Joy at the Same Time with Malisa Hepner A♦️ / Q♦️

Malisa Hepner is a therapist, speaker, and host of The Emotionally Unavailable Podcast. Today we explore how early trauma, grief, and self-inquiry shape a path of healing and truth.Through the lens of her A♦️ Life Path and Q♦️ Personality, Malisa reflects on themes of self-worth, advocacy, and learning to stand firmly in her value without abandoning her emotional depth. She shares pivotal moments from her life: growing up with addiction and loss, navigating a spiritual awakening after a mental health crisis, and the ongoing practice of staying embodied rather than bypassing pain.The episode moves tenderly into grief, as Malisa speaks about losing her son Jake and what it means to hold sorrow and joy at the same time.0:00 Episode Teaser0:24 Introducing Melissa Hepner2:14 Divine Downloads at Age 44:58 Epiphany About Personal Growth 8:37 Deconstructing Religion and Finding Astrology13:48 The Ace of Diamonds: Fire Starter and First Mover Energy15:05 Breaking Generational Cycles of Addiction and Abuse17:52 Queen of Diamonds: Learning to Advocate for Yourself24:08 Biggest Life Lesson: Getting Comfortable Being Human30:05 How to Ground in the Body: Feeling Over Thinking38:58 Losing Her Son Jake to Accidental Overdose47:57 Jake's Birth Cards: Three and Seven of Spades1:03:57 Billboard MessageConnect with MalisaMalisa’s birthday is June 16th, and she is playing A♦️ / Q♦️.Malisa Hepner is a therapist, podcast host, and public speaker who helps people quiet the noise of trauma, reconnect with themselves, and embody the light. She’s the host of Emotionally Unavailable and one of the hosts of Unquiet Soul, two shows that open space for deep, real, and transformative conversations. Drawing on both her professional expertise and her lived experience as a survivor of complex PTSD, she’s passionate about helping people move beyond overthinking, perfectionism, and fear of visibility to live more grounded, authentic, and joyful lives. Most recently, she's navigating the grief world through child loss. Malisa lost her 18 year old son, Jake, to an accidental overdose on 12/13/25 and is now using all of the tools she's gained through healing to process the unimaginable.https://www.instagram.com/malisa.hepner/https://empoweredwithmalisahepner.org/https://linktr.ee/MdhepnerConnect with ushttps://www.thesourcecards.com/https://www.instagram.com/thesourcecards/https://www.youtube.com/c/thesourcecardshttps://www.tiktok.com/@thesourcecardsWondering what’s keeping you stuck and how to move forward from here? Get your Life Audit here: https://www.thesourcecards.com/life-audit-with-alexander-vikiIntro CreditsPhotos by Satya Tisman Photography at SoulFire.Studiohttps://www.instagram.com/satyatismanphotography/Music by Viki Scudiery & David Boyle