Ep 212: Managing Relationships as a CAE w/ Aaron Gagnon (McKinsey & Company)

This week's episode, we're joined by Aaron Gagnon, Partner and Chief Audit Officer at McKinsey & Company. In this episode, Aaron shares his personal mantra, "show up and try," and explains how this mindset influences his work and life. He highlights his unique approach to hiring, focusing on both experience and key qualities that set candidates apart. Aaron also discusses the challenges of managing relationships across the C-suite, audit committees, and management staff, offering practical insights for handling these dynamics.  Be sure to connect with Aaron on LinkedIn.   Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok.   Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.   Timecodes: 3:38 - What's in your Internet Browsing History? 8:40 - Aaron's motto: "Show Up and Try." 16:15 - Aaron's Hiring Mindset 25:15 - Fraud Story 26:09 - The Challenge of Regulators as a CAE 29:14 - Building Relationships with Trust 32:44 - Building your Philosophy as a Leader 36:02 - Final Thoughts   *   This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype.  Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.