EPISODE · Jun 21, 2025 · 27 MIN
Ep 217 - Tangents, Shrews and Robin Ince
from The Forest School Podcast · host Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden
In this lively and tangential episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma reflect on an evening spent seeing Robin Ince speak about neurodivergence, ADHD, and the importance of passion. From rogue pygmy shrews to ultraviolet birds and eccentric geniuses, the conversation weaves in and out of the evening’s takeaways, unravelling what it means to be unashamedly interested in the world. They explore the power of identity through diagnosis, why tangents are a feature not a bug, and how environments can welcome authenticity. The episode also touches on hierarchical values in outdoor spaces, the performative pressure of being “an expert,” and why imperfect passion beats polished performance. If you’ve ever loved something deeply and been told to tone it down—this one’s for you.🌿 Sponsor Shout-Out:This episode is sponsored by TENTSILE, the original tree tent. Get 10% off any order with the code ForestChildren10 at www.tentsile.comWe’re also proudly supported by Chris Holland, author of A Kaleidoscope of Plants. Get 10% off his beautiful 54-page guide when you use code ForestSchoolPodcast at this link: https://chrisholland.myshopify.com/?ref=ForestSchoolPodcast⏱ Chapter Timings:00:00 – Pygmy shrew panic and under-the-table guests01:47 – Shrews taste bad: prey, predators, and side quests03:20 – Ultraviolet vision and birds seeing wee trails05:08 – “Like birds do”: comedy stories and water spitting06:22 – Reflections on Robin Ince’s talk and ADHD diagnosis08:01 – Two sides of the coin: forgetfulness and brilliance09:45 – The beauty of subjective, honest storytelling12:54 – Vulnerability, unmasking, and joy without shame15:01 – Hierarchies of value: washing up vs wonder21:26 – The transactional myth of brilliance and acceptance🌲 Keywords: ADHD, neurodivergence, Robin Ince, authentic passion, Forest School values, child-led learning, identity through diagnosis, intersectionality, nature-based education, humour in education, embracing tangents, pedagogy and personality, outdoor learning philosophy, invisible struggles, joy and vulnerability🔖 Hashtags:#ForestSchool #Neurodivergence #AuthenticLearning #OutdoorEducation #ChildLedLearning #RobinInce #Neurodiversity #Unmasking #JoyInLearning #ImperfectPassion #EducationWithoutJudgement #ForestSchoolPodcast #InclusiveEducation #NatureBasedLearning🌐 More Episodes & Support:Listen to more and access resources at www.theforestschoolpodcast.com**Support the show and join our community at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast**For questions, feedback, or collaboration: [email protected]
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In this lively and tangential episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma reflect on an evening spent seeing Robin Ince speak about neurodivergence, ADHD, and the importance of passion. From rogue pygmy shrews to ultraviolet birds and eccentric geniuses, the conversation weaves in and out of the evening’s takeaways, unravelling what it means to be unashamedly interested in the world. They explore the power of identity through diagnosis, why tangents are a feature not a bug, and how environments can welcome authenticity. The episode also touches on hierarchical values in outdoor spaces, the performative pressure of being “an expert,” and why imperfect passion beats polished performance. If you’ve ever loved something deeply and been told to tone it down—this one’s for you.🌿 Sponsor Shout-Out:This episode is sponsored by TENTSILE, the original tree tent. Get 10% off any order with the code ForestChildren10 at www.tentsile.comWe’re also proudly supported by Chris Holland, author of A Kaleidoscope of Plants. Get 10% off his beautiful 54-page guide when you use code ForestSchoolPodcast at this link: https://chrisholland.myshopify.com/?ref=ForestSchoolPodcast⏱ Chapter Timings:00:00 – Pygmy shrew panic and under-the-table guests01:47 – Shrews taste bad: prey, predators, and side quests03:20 – Ultraviolet vision and birds seeing wee trails05:08 – “Like birds do”: comedy stories and water spitting06:22 – Reflections on Robin Ince’s talk and ADHD diagnosis08:01 – Two sides of the coin: forgetfulness and brilliance09:45 – The beauty of subjective, honest storytelling12:54 – Vulnerability, unmasking, and joy without shame15:01 – Hierarchies of value: washing up vs wonder21:26 – The transactional myth of brilliance and acceptance🌲 Keywords: ADHD, neurodivergence, Robin Ince, authentic passion, Forest School values, child-led learning, identity through diagnosis, intersectionality, nature-based education, humour in education, embracing tangents, pedagogy and personality, outdoor learning philosophy, invisible struggles, joy and vulnerability🔖 Hashtags:#ForestSchool #Neurodivergence #AuthenticLearning #OutdoorEducation #ChildLedLearning #RobinInce #Neurodiversity #Unmasking #JoyInLearning #ImperfectPassion #EducationWithoutJudgement #ForestSchoolPodcast #InclusiveEducation #NatureBasedLearning🌐 More Episodes & Support:Listen to more and access resources at www.theforestschoolpodcast.com**Support the show and join our community at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast**For questions, feedback, or collaboration: [email protected]
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