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EPISODE · Jan 21, 2026 · 51 MIN

Ep 226: Kait & JJ Tomlin: Your Checklist Is the Problem

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Kait and JJ Tomlin (the couple behind Heart of Dating) join Levi and Jennie for a hilarious, super-helpful conversation about what dating looks like right now—and why so many women feel frustrated while so many men feel shut down. From “80% isn’t enough” expectations to the weird ways dating apps have turned people into filters and checkboxes, they get real about what’s happening in the church and what actually helps. Along the way, they unpack what to look for beneath the surface (hello, teachability + humility), why “trajectory” matters more than perfection, and how to think about attraction with more wisdom than a swipe. Plus, you’ll hear their own unexpected meet-cute—from a Zoom “blind date bachelor” moment to long-distance FaceTimes and a relationship built on character (wolf sweater and all). Connect with us on social! Kait: @kaitness  JJ: @jjtomlin Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife [Links] Heart of Dating:  Heart of Dating Podcast:  School of Dating (16-week mentorship):  Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe Time Stamps 01:50 – The dating convo everyone needs (not just singles) 03:10 – Why women feel stuck and men feel discouraged 11:17 – The real “bar” for maturity: responsibility + discipleship 19:55 – Drop the filters: height, attraction, and dating apps 27:14 – Their Zoom meet-cute (and “Emily” makes an appearance) 40:02 – Heart of Dating: podcast, mentorship, coaching, and community

Kait and JJ Tomlin (the couple behind Heart of Dating) join Levi and Jennie for a hilarious, super-helpful conversation about what dating looks like right now—and why so many women feel frustrated while so many men feel shut down. From “80% isn’t enough” expectations to the weird ways dating apps have turned people into filters and checkboxes, they get real about what’s happening in the church and what actually helps. Along the way, they unpack what to look for beneath the surface (hello, teachability + humility), why “trajectory” matters more than perfection, and how to think about attraction with more wisdom than a swipe. Plus, you’ll hear their own unexpected meet-cute—from a Zoom “blind date bachelor” moment to long-distance FaceTimes and a relationship built on character (wolf sweater and all). Connect with us on social! Kait: @kaitness JJ: @jjtomlin Levi: @levilusko Jennie: @jennielusko Fresh Life Church: @freshlife [Links] Heart of Dating: Heart of Dating Podcast: School of Dating (16-week mentorship): Get the 5 Gallon Bucket: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Get the Lusketeer Sticker: https://bit.ly/sdl4sHY Subscribe for more exclusive content: https://levilusko.com/hitl-subscribe Time Stamps 01:50 – The dating convo everyone needs (not just singles) 03:10 – Why women feel stuck and men feel discouraged 11:17 – The real “bar” for maturity: responsibility + discipleship 19:55 – Drop the filters: height, attraction, and dating apps 27:14 – Their Zoom meet-cute (and “Emily” makes an appearance) 40:02 – Heart of Dating: podcast, mentorship, coaching, and community

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