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Aug 13, 2021 1 hr 27 min

Ep 243: That 70s Episode

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It's been a while, but Paul & Eli have managed to trick... Sorry, convince a guest to join them for another edition of the economy comedy podcast! This week, comedian and actor Imran Yusuf visits CheapShow to wade into the sticky swamps of nostalgia. A strange charity shop discovery unearths an item that overindulges in the "good old days" of the 1970s. It's a bag of reproduced 70s ephemera that allows the cheap chaps and co the chance to ask "was it really all that good" in the past? The answer is no. Elsewhere, Paul has tailored a "Price of Shite" to suit Imran's love of video games, but can he guess the correct costs of these weird and wonderful pieces of tat? Eli is on hand to "help" and offers a top prize! See pictures and/or videos for this episode here: https://www.thecheapshow.co.uk/ep-243-that-70s-episode And if you like us, why not support us: www.patreon.com/cheapshow If you want to get involved, email us at [email protected] And if you have to, follow us on Twitter @thecheapshowpod or @paulgannonshow & @elisnoid Find out more about Imran here: https://www.imranyusuf.com/ @imranyusuf Like, Review, Share, Comment... LOVE US! Oh, and you can NOW listen to Urinevision 2021 on Bandcamp... For Free! Enjoy! https://cheapshowpodcast.bandcamp.com/album/urinevision-2021-the-album MERCH Official CheapShow Merch Shop www.redbubble.com/people/cheapshow/shop Www.cheapmag.shop www.tinyurl.com/rbcheapshow Send Us Stuff: CheapShow PO BOX 1309 Harrow HA1 9QJ

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What? Just before we start, can I just say calm down? Please, can I come down? Excuse me.

I'm not a guest in a while. OK. Just now the cold open, by the way. So I do it.

Don't need you. This is the cold open. It's disbounce. I'd like to be needed.

Will you come close to the mic? I'd like to be needed. Yeah, I know. You say that a lot.

I think it's a profile. Just say one thing. What? You've talked about changing your name.

I'm going to change my name. I do. I do want to change my name like a nickname, middle bit. Chofney.

No. He likes Chofney Silverwood. That sounds good. Eli, do you know what I mean?

Yeah, someone pointed that out recently. He said, do you know what I mean? A lot of the podcast. And I've never taken it in until I saw the episode, well, last week's episode, editing it.

And there was the 30 second stretch of the podcast, why edit out five or six times you say, do you know what I mean? It's a crayly and secure way of performing. Sorry, everybody. And on that note, welcome to Cheep Show.

I've got an apology out of Eli. And that to me is a goal. It's a goal. Is that it?

Yeah. I thought we were going to get back out of the credits. Oh, fucking. I hate you.

And your fucking moodle. Posty. People love noodles. It's a factory show you're going to have to learn the fucking expect.

Cheep Show. Cheep Show. It's the price of shine. Be like, still, for them.

It's a cheap show. And a girl with a nuzzle. Hello, welcome to the Economy Comedy Podcast. We're Eli and I go for the charity shops, panlands, and bargain bins of great Britain look for the treasure amongst the trash.

Yay. It's our format. And this week, we're in a different location. We're not in the house of pickles, we're in the Tudor bookshop.

We're in the Tudor bookshop. It's so Her Radio Podcast studios in, so, oh, London. And we've got a guest for the first time a long time. A guest.

And we are privileged and flattered to have this guest on our show. His name is simply Emmanuel, and he is a godsend to us. Hello, Emmanuel. I'm great.

Thank you very much for having me. Well, we'll see at the end of the show if it was worth your time and they're coming here today. But you know, you're like, I'm seeing you in a while. Yes, we have.

We've not seen each other in ages. Yeah, but I'm doing OK. Went to the gym recently and pushed myself to the limits. I'm feeling good.

I'm feeling as good as a result of doing that. I'm going to say, I don't like people who exercise. I find their attitude stinks by launch. I've got the doms.

The doms. Delayed on set muscular strain. Oh, hello. Yes, I believe I am.

Yeah. Why are you talking like you do? I'm doing like, oh, he's sexually the pounding great truth. Oh, right.

Fruit fucking. Just because in round eight doesn't mean I'm lowering or raising the quality of my kind. You're just saying that the same. Oh my god.

The last time I saw you though, genuinely, I think was when we were filming digitiser series one, the show. Yes. Yeah. I think way back when?

That was a few years ago. That was an exciting, like it was. You know, I remember you ended up having an allergic reaction to something. Shrimp.

Shrimp. It's what you say it's allergic. It's what I guess. It's like a fucking...

It's a fear of the sea. It's a fear of the sea. It's a fear of the sea in a very broad sense. It's a fear of everything feminine in the universe.

So I was saying my allergic reaction to fish is because I have a problem with women. Yes. And you don't want to be enveloped. I'm joking.

What was your role in running in digitiser? I was in your essay. It's always if you haven't seen the series, are you like? I did.

It was just several years ago, as we said. What's the bits he was in? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I think that's what I did. I was like, I'm going to say, do I look good at this? I was really excited because I grew up reading digitiser, a massive fan of it. And then to me, you know, Mr Bitfolk, I was really excited.

Was it on the well when you finally met it? It was for me. I don't know what to expect. I was like, I had no idea who this guy was.

He was just called Mr Bitfolk. I didn't realise that he's actually mortal and human. I thought he had transcended that. Too mortal.

Because I found his style of humor. Really, I love surreal humor. I don't think we have enough of that. Done properly.

And that's what he does. And also, you know, he's got the man's daddy's joke. I'd be on the train just laughing at it. People are looking at me going, you know, one of the jokes, like, what's the worst thing that can happen to you when you bite into a donut?

And I donut, I donut. You know, that you bite into a donut and out pops a murderer. Yeah. It's weird.

That would be bad. Bitfolk tends to write jokes like those Twitter kids joke accounts. You know, it's like, why did chicken cross the road? Death.

Yeah. What was that, Manny, for breakfast? Haunted ghost. And you just got a laugh because of the shocking laughter it makes.

I actually remember some of the stories from the man's diary, from Digitizer. Oh, he did. I remember them. Like, I actually can recite a couple of them as well.

And then it's a joy to be able to go on the... There's a fan site. And to be able to look for those pages. I remember that.

Yeah. Because this is the fact, I think we talked about this on YouTube before, but half of those have turned up because they were on VHS tapes. Right? I didn't know this.

I may get the science wrong, but apparently when you record it off TV on a VHS, you also recorded the code for teletext. So if you search for the VHS, you can pull out the pages. It must be part of the actual tape. It must be part of the actual band within it, which is the teletext information.

Well, like TechMom's done a video about how VHS would be used for like data storage and vineyards and all kinds of work. And that VHS digital music player thing. Yeah. That was a chunky piece of here.

Let's grab it. Give it a shake down. Yeah. Oh, you're going to fuck that as well.

No, you're going to... Look, if it's consensual, I'll fuck any and all pieces of high-quality equipment. I've always wanted to make it with a cassette deck, twin cassette. I want both hands in.

Shut up. I thought, what have I walked into? I know. There's one of the nice things I think is that, can we forget on the show, who knows what, but I've never really listened to the show properly.

We'll sit down and go, a T line, pull time, and then at the end, I don't know what I said. No. I'm going to be able to judge on the urine vision this year. Wow.

Thank you for that as well. I'm glad that my number one choice actually won. I don't like that bloody ballad one. That ballad one.

I liked it. It's had no swearing. It had no references to cheap show. It had nothing.

It had no proper chorus. It had nothing. I just wanted to do an open-source music competition. Music was the winner in the end.

It was a vanquished. It was vanquished. It vanquished it. I thought it was a really strong turnout.

We tried to pick a nice variety of weirdness and proper quotes on quote music. So when I was asking around for judges, I was like, everyone's not going to get this. That was good. The judging was good.

I kept to the time constraint. Yes. Because Nick Helm, I said, keep it's your best. Shut up, Nick.

It's £50. I was thinking that I'm going to take a minute and I'm like, Chip, Chip. You kept the recorder on when he went and got some tea or something? Yes.

So, thank you for that. If we do it all next year, I'll be infletting that upon you again. All right, I'm looking forward to it. I'll say, I think, maybe we do it live next year.

You're envision live. I don't know how we do it, but we'll figure out a way. You do it live. You do a show live.

I know I know I mean living how you do it. Anyway, anyway, this week on Cheap Show, we tried to tailor our segments to our guests, weren't appropriate. So, we're going to start off with a random thing I found, just something I wanted to talk about, deep nostalgia based whether it relates to what I don't know what it would be worth picking through but we do have in the next section After that is we have the price of choice where Eli and I gone to charity shops We pick a few things out and you have to guess the prices of those items right right we have five and today We have picked video games based items for you to peruse Oh, right I'm straight my street and if you like any of them you can take them because I don't want to take them home I've got that Mario pin badge as well jealous of that. Oh, if you've got any mariolet itself, I would gladly take it You won't give up that.

There's a charity shop in Canon called Mind and a few years ago or weeks ago They had a little pot of pin badges. We bought a lot of pin badges Now they have a whole wall of pin badges and we got the best ones I got a guinean Ghostbusters badge if you look at the Coca-Cola AC DC. You got that wicked Mario pin Yeah, I've got it with me get it out. Oh in a minute.

Whippity out. I'll get it. I'll get it. I'll get your shiny Mario badge I got that.

What's he called Don Toro the anime character the little cat someone mentioned that. Yeah, I did Don Burry Don't you don't blame on derame on the blue the blue Yeah, yeah, it's really nice. Really nice. Like a seven season thing.

I think derame on actually quite old. Yeah, I'm not a derame on I know of it because it's quite a recognized character Yeah, because it's a blue cat with no ears. Yeah, that's the way distinctive listen it about anime is that many respects you go Oh, I remember that show from the 90s. Well someone from Japan was like we had that 1976 And you got it in the 90s.

They were catching and all this you know power Rangers stuff So yeah, I think my first experience was that guy what was that cartoon where they had the guys advisor and they I love it. Yeah, I love that stuff. I remember that was a mainstream thing here I don't know if it was definitely Japanese. Yeah, original ones It's one of those ones where the Japanese sold it to someone in the West who just re-scripted it basically Well, they completely added a new character or two added new animators seems to make more sense and restorctured the characters in the plot So visually it was the same show but narratively in character base There's almost completely there was a lot of that That's what power Rangers was the hurricane rangers and then the West bought it and then and you know dropped in the bits that relevant to the West Yeah, I think Japan and I think some like France have got like French animation looks quite similar to Japanese animation Is a lot of crossover or a lot of some quite relatable in a way that we didn't have over here.

Yeah So I think you think things like you know city gold or will it fill you's fogate? They are What was that was French? It's something about those shows that whenever someone brings up you go row row row or you go 80 days around the world I think so, so I think they had that one Hercules. No, you will see That was I think an anime.

Oh, I think that was a French thing maybe I've never thought of that. They were asked that you're right There's an overlap with the animation style whereas in Britain it was much more known for Clay Nation sort of Cosgrove Hall, so stuff like Count Duckular Yes, of course, correct me if I'm wrong people listening. Yeah, that was not cos cos was not cosgrove or needless. Tell you bugs.

Yeah, I know Shocking isn't it cosgrove all did um danger mouths danger mouths a magic torch Then Japan wins Make it work UK animation tends to have a more be no style because I think that's our Influencers it's the cartoony end of the pier postcard look my brothers grew up with Marvel and DC and we've got a load of that Load of those comics at home from when they were kids, but I grew up with Buster and Beno. Oh, yeah, that's I'm my yeah That's my I knew it was by a man But it's not slow by the way Wiser and ships. Yeah, that was a part of that same not same universe But that same era yes, but Buster and Beno with a two-door I almost read religiously I could always make sure I had that I was mad about Marvel and but I moved from the Buster and the Beno and the Ships to the Marvel oh for me straight into horror comics I used to be creepy or whatever was because my own keys to give you issues I thought was the zombies and the monsters on the front were cool And my favorite strip it was 13th floor and it was a British comic strip very 2,000 a dish almost about this block of flats in the middle of the state and when horrible people get into the lift the lift You're just them and take them to the 13th floor where they walk out into like a hell of a hell of a hell yeah And they have a horrible ironic you remember supernaturals Hologram one yeah, I've got the mirror yeah It was a comic as well and one in the comic there was also a segment called the doll which was basically about a haunted Ventriloist doll that did some crazy and if you can find it you'll find it and it still like looks really messed up man Yeah, really really messed up. I started really cold weekly horror comics can't remember what they were called woman's own magazine Why is that funny cuz I said that's why and my dad being a liberal was like You said that as if you got disgusting Such a liberal right it's one of yeah, because he said you can read those if you like but I will not be paying for it So you can buy your own trashy comics.

Yeah, but he just approved totally disapproved didn't want me reading them They couldn't be in general you couldn't actually order me is what I mean about the liberal thing So you know actually you know commander make not to read them right I say I will not be more than I will not fund this So what was it be no as well just like the no just a horror ones Yeah, the other problem there with these I can't know what they were called they were weekly with like newsprint Yeah with a color cover and the inside was all black and white I'm a garbage pail kid. Yes stickers. Yeah, and so we all collect the stickers as kids like that was the thing I got to garbage. Yeah, like I thought I got to go Yeah, got got need me.

Yeah, I had thunder cat stickers I remember having those and then I remember getting to garbage pail kids and the art was very different and it was quite disturbing as well Yeah, and my mom's looking at me sure know these are bad and you shouldn't you do these about and she kind of banned me from having them? I can't I understand that though cuz you were out there was set out to be repulsive and not cool Yeah, but I remember I got mine Nick's not Nick taken away Well, no Nick by my teacher because he saw them in my drawer right because I don't like these I don't want them in class so I snuck in after class and I went to get my cards back and realized he also had a Like 200 others he take it from other students and I took him to and I had the best Got it in he was a known. Yeah, that's in those days. I remember one of my teachers.

I had a shiny mumra And then you have your shiny They got metallic I had a shiny and it's a shiny super mumra which is hard to get it was easy and remember this teacher she was I remember she came to our school she I don't know she was a supply teacher I remember telling us that she was from Scotland and we didn't know what that was like we would you know five six seven something All right, and she's like I'm from Scotland and she talks about Loch Ness monster and I'm like oh my god How do you people cope? What's going on? I remember telling us about this and she saw we were elasticus in school for whatever it is the 80s Yeah, and I remember super mumra. It's a shiny super mumra and she held up in front of my face and she tore it She destroyed it and if you try to do that now, it would all hell would break But back there I was like oh my teachers ripped my property.

Yeah And tough enough to take it. Yeah to take it. Yeah, I say all sorts of stuff from them Why did you put me falling in the face? Did that?

Yeah? Well, you're joking. No, of course I'm joking. No, no, I don't know.

I mean my teachers did I'm not gonna mention any names One of my teachers would actually slap another child on the bum Punish him and I'm like hold on It's 1987. Yeah, and I'm watching a boy be slapped on his bottom Like he had been You only get bum slapped in the very little spankies. Yeah, right I was like there's one thing on mumra can we say one thing on mumra? Yeah, if you like mumra There's you know that guy what's he called?

Cusette boy who does that? Yeah, he's done mumra doing old dirty bastards. I like it We're all absolutely you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, really good I'll just say this one of the teachers in my school got fired because he lost his shit with one students and literally to try to put his umbrella up in Yeah, you're right. It was an era where stuff like that could be very quickly from public.

Yes from public. Yeah, yeah They get moved to the next school overall. They were just quite a bit I found that era of like I think one of the best things of my life is primary school in this country Okay, particularly in London. Yeah, particularly it was a beautiful place now at age 41 Yeah, I mean what's that group all the kids I went to my middle school with yeah, because it felt like we were a family We all like a different backgrounds everything, but we were like a family and we're like a what's that group now?

We help each other out nice that's nice. I refuse to think anyone I knew when I was showing just I was only one But I did go to a primary for like a couple of years before I went to boarding school like a state primary in North West I was it for you. It was really it was one of the best times I had as a child. Yeah, it was primary school Like I really really value it just every I felt like just felt like you know, you're part of a family You're you're all different backgrounds if also I've done that matter because you all played together It's very diverse Right, but can we move on then because I'm gonna start singing this used to be my playground by Madonna In and also can I just say no, can I just say we did a production of West Side Snorl and I wanted to be what's the hero Maria?

I did not want to be Maria. Oh, I think I think it's Maria Tony easy I thought I remember when I made that bloody announcer the dance announcer did I got to put apparently there's I saw this somewhere on the internet If you played anyone in the nativity at school, you would go on to do well in life. I got to play Joseph This is like always the cow. I was literally the dwarf He can all sorts of you know forest dwelling fairy back into the christ story and why not?

Right, so this item I have been sitting on for a while not literally because that'll be stupid and it's not an egg It's not an egg. No, it was something they bought the charity shop. Maybe a year ago. Maybe a year ago I couldn't quite figure out what to do with it But I brought it this week because it was just ever been talking about the style did these days and people can play like new he-man and new this And all versions of that it's like oh Isn't a soldier all it's cracked up to me because a lot of things these days are trading on the style Get to sell you something remind you of something, you know, give you the feels I want to know who this is for right?

So I went into a charity shop. I found this it's called simply 70's childhood and it's a little plastic bag and inside You get a bunch of stuff and all this stuff is reprints of things you could have bought or owned or cherished in the 70s So I'll just show them 70's childhood Yeah, no, maybe the bouncy some was some I don't know if it's irrelevant like I was born in November 1779 So I'm really an 80s kid. That's the world 80s kids. I remember I was 75.

So I remember what yeah, I know right shocking. He's looking good So I'll tell you what's in this so it comes with a cooler TV times from relating to children's TV It comes with a section of an Argos catalog it comes with superstar 1972 and ace fanzines stuffed with profiles of Cassidy the Ottomans The new see-cans T-Rex and Slade oh shit apart from the last two theater flyers for it looks like Pantos ABC Ipswich Flyer And then it says miscellaneous images So there we go and then I'm looking for some heavy Thatch And then again, it's not porn. It's not porn. It's not miscellaneous.

I ain't wink wink. Missy anus Missy anus I was turned Never heard before but you get some concert tickets and they're calling it concertina as in like yeah I know yeah, I devised collection of concert tickets from the 70s including Roxy music Abba, John Slade Sex Pistols, Bowie. Yeah, I had to be there If you got some reprints off those tickets, I'll share them out and you can all pick out them and just have a little chat about it You know what I just thought I mentioned this out nowhere. Did you does anyone been to the toilet here?

No, did they feel condescending to you the toilet? I felt condescending to the toilet how's your hands 20 seconds a side brilliant? The sign said really? Oh, it's a sign.

What's a fucking child? It's like Oakley have you ever read an Oakley bottle? Yeah, I know you're gonna angry about Oakley's the same thing I bet they had the same consultants in the toilet telling them to all right sorry. Thank you for that I guess I don't know what you want from me with that these actual reprints of the material It's quite nice actually I didn't really know it's a little packet full of time capsule I thought it was a time capsule with actual stuff.

No, it's not a little reprints So I don't know what you've got but I've got a few miscellaneous pictures I've got the don't cross near parked cars says Kevin Keegan Was Kevin Keegan the man who fell off his bike during the show super stars in her face No, he was a footballer I know that was a TV show called Superstars was there which is kind of like a space It was like a sports kind of it's a knockout where all these athletes Can I finish the story before you just jump to the bit where I already say he's face Did he hurt himself? Sorry, I'm not even a good person It's a shit story. That's why Paul. So this is a little view master pamphlet Viewmasters, yeah, what are you even those clicky clicky clicky clicky clicky clicky What I mean before the video about for you.

Yeah, I did I never understood the appeal of them to be honest, but I had them there Deeply unimpressive things no they were they are shit. I don't know being a child looking at it What the fuck did you have any more moments as a child of fondness alge? Everything was a litany of crass I told you when I was looking at Paul in a shed and then but not as a den Not a shed it was a den it was a shed though. Wasn't it your den was a shed no it was they made it who's they as who are not?

Gods as who in honor who the Nigerian friends in the second garden across they made a den and put porn up in it And I was so entranced I melted a plastic bag onto my leg by mistake whilst looking at someone heavy fat Tell you tell me tell that story a few times that worry So it's a view master guide so what's what does it say it's just like here's a list of everything you can view on view master I think it must have been a sort of a reproduction of an inserted pamphlet that came with a magazine or something right because I used to love mine Because it was either you could explore the world. Oh look it's a small world It is a click. Oh look it's the splash mountain you could go places you couldn't because your family were poor like mine So my holidays were in my eyes I had a night holiday I was in my eyes and went to anywhere This is some kind of voucher says gift to view master packets free for every purchase of a view master So you got the packets you got the little eight well after those in you know I'm buying a view master and then waiting a week Before you could look at anything no it's a very good point very very good point. What have you got in around me?

I've got three things most notably. I've actually got a reproduction of an Argos What you know what came in an Argos catalog? I didn't really went back that long Argos. I thought it was an 80s thing You're not no it looks like you know while and you know so there's a variety of tools I think what we all did when we were all got a kid you go straight to the back still do now straight to the back look at the toys Right and then later video games and what I've noticed here is that you can bite that over here the actual rifle this silver rifle The completely realistic looking rifles back then oh yeah, you could have replica guns because The kids today American ones in America.

Yeah, I had a replica It was blue metallic so you know looked real from a distance and we'd run around you know kind of bang bang Cap each other nothing you know and it was fine. Yeah, it was just fine. There's trainsets here the scale extra scale extra Yeah, that's did you enjoy scale extra? My dad did and he had a very simple figure of eight track It's boring boring and quite difficult as well.

I just thought you hold it down and it goes round No, you have to go and you have to sort of take it off on the corners, don't you? Yeah, but it leaves a pressure on the corner. We had scale extra but it didn't work So I have memory of having scale extra that well it was it was broken by the time I was old enough to I was my brother said rinse it by there's also here a co-jack game Oh Jack target game where you get a gun a and I think it shoots Do you remember you should make a gun that shot little suckers that was suckers on and the get you know And often if you were lucky enough you shoot someone in the forehead How much for a dart it's my friends here? Yeah, geez, well you try to recreate a scene from shore What did he do it not he won't do him to throw a dart at him we were doing like No, what I was 10.

Yeah, I asked the same question. What you doing? It was not on cocaine when I was 10. Thank you This reminds me of a story that somebody when I worked in the games industry one of the IT contractors used to come and told Us story that he went to a boarding school and one of the kids in his boarding school Or I think it was all boys was really hyperactive and just wouldn't fucking stop Yeah, just one and during a play time whatever someone threw a dart and it went in his testicle Yeah, I mean just the sad and so Just just the idea of this He then obviously had to go away to hospital.

Yeah when he came back he had calmed down a lot Yeah, no shit. No shit. I can't down. Perhaps that's the therapy that they need so How do you even administer that?

Well, do you put the kid on a giant rotating circle? I just rotated round and then everyone gets a gun. That's what we were doing. I was doing my friend We were sort of like influenced by the knife throwing.

Oh, yeah, I was trying to get close to him I wasn't trying to throw it in so he was your head you're going Wicked I tell you what I when I was a kid I wasn't into guns that much But I did love having a spud gun and a little metal gun to a spud you put on you I knew what we did was we got pins and we stuck him in the end of the Rifle you've been rifling through your teachers private property. I actually carried a get done when I was a teenager. Yeah, so A friend of mine his dad was in the US Air Force but based in in North London Oh, okay. Yeah, and so he had access to all these air rifles And I was I was a target for muggers when I was a teenager because my skinny Asian kid, you know must own a shot what we did Supposedly we're rich and we weren't and so I was just a target for muggers and I got bored of it And I was like I need to defend myself and ask my friend is like can you get me a gun?

Yeah, and he's like and he bought this it looks like Robocop's gun It's a massive like that gun and it looked real like absolutely real but you couldn't fire bullets only metal slugs right fortunately Thank God you didn't give me any actual ammunition any any metal slugs and so I can't it's massive I look like space Harrier like And I came at my inside pocket and walk around and go the moment somebody tries any of that patter me and go You know, I know you got money on you know, I got your ass Thank God no and a week later I gave it back to you know, it was only 15 pounds That's all he was asking for it was 15 pounds that was realistic and I'm a 14 year old boy running around this It's like a high school version of breaking bad. What part of London did you know? A hero so the school went to his head and right and so before Or did he? I was being spooky about this and I returned it to him and I took a karate that summer and then I went I went you know My life took a better path.

Yeah, yeah, I can't imagine you decked out with guns and I don't think I can't do that It's really what I find is that you are you know, your environment shapes in such a massive way Yeah, and I could have quite easily gone further down that road and God knows what that would have led me to But fortunately because of Street Fighter II and Jackie Chan, I took up my shallots. Yeah, I was like I would not use my hands or weapons I'm rumbling Harrow Watch that That's what we need there needs to be a London based sort of Kung Fu movie Yeah, that's not based in central London, but based on like, you know It's yeah, yeah, yeah, because you just don't see a lot of British films tend to be cocky gangsters and deals that gone down You know all that kind of it's like I don't want to see there's nothing there's nothing football hula Movies and not those don't they seem to do well, though? Don't know because they're cheap to make so I tell you what I saw on Netflix was called one upon a time in London Oh based on or once upon a time films. Yeah, so it's like a 30s gangster film in London with just the most boring atrocious acting anyway Sorry everyone I hate it die-hard sorry everyone.

I like it superstar 72. I've got replica of here is that little magazine talking of Kung Fu Are they doing it looks like they're doing Kung Fu It's possibly the osmons weird they're all in like Elvis jumpsuits and they seem to be going you know with the pose so when was when was Kung Fu fighting out that song that's later. Yeah, it's much later right because that's when the films were kicking off all those Kung Fu bruce I think the Kung Fu craze was was from early on though It was like for most of the 70s started in the early 70s. I believe it's like Jackie not Jackie Bruce Lee's thing was he wanted to bring into the dragon was 1970 I think 71 Anyway, we've got the partridge family shit slayed mostly shit.

I was mostly shit mostly shit You know slave is still charting in like the 80s. Yeah, I told you that was a comedy release. I don't like now five It's called a war. Yeah, it's real best.

Anyway, that's why they mostly shit Yeah, but they also do good until about 72. Oh, right? Well, you know they had a better on the basis did T Rex. Yeah, you're just reading out things on the front now You know, you've given us this I thought you're on the most incisive commentary.

I'm trying to build up a head of steam here All right, new seekers who the new seekers terrible terrible Monkeys and I was with all the monkeys and already broken up by 72. No head came out around Yeah, that was the first that was the show was the monkeys. Yeah, really good music with the monkeys anyway, but funny I didn't think they'd gone that far and liars Smith and Jones now weren't they a country in Western group? No, that was a Western TV show Oh, yeah, isn't that a last minute?

Yes, that's where it came from. Oh, no, no, it makes sense. Yeah, see people do learn things on this podcast Not intentionally Smith Jones I'm dying didn't he? I was a while ago now maybe ten years I remember and he'd forget he directed Bean the movie Bean and that was like a huge big international success He was also directed that film of Jeff Goldblum and Emma Thompson.

Yeah, the tour guide which is pretty good for me And I'll go on record saying it's the only good Richard Curtis movie now Which of these gigs would you most want to go to? Oh, go on these tickets here? Oh Slade and status quo. Yes, I go that one.

No, there's other stuff here Oh, David Cassidy. What did David Cassidy do other than his groupies? I think I think it's a Mormon was me. That's the Osman's.

Yeah, yeah big Mormons Thin Lizzie oh, yeah, that's a good one David Bowie. Yeah, what era is this Bowie? I'm talking this is the great era. This is the this is it just before he went a bit faux-fascist.

Yeah, yeah, yeah The white juke was all about what he did so much coke blame the coke. He said something like hit It was all right or something is like you're doing characters like Ziggy his neck one was the white juke Yeah, and that was a little bit a bit fascist. I think he apologized for it to be fair. Yeah, of course, you know It's not as a terrible thing as dancing in the street with me.

No Bay City rollers. Yes, I'd go see basically rollers. If I a girlfriend that go cuz that's what that'll be a They all smell of your in it would. Bye, baby, baby, bye, bye.

That was that one. Yes, I mean they saw it Would you go see that out of that Bowie? Have you not mentioned Abba Abba's on there? Yeah, Abba in 72 I was a spistles that's a bit late in it.

Yeah, that would have been what I mean It doesn't say yeah, it's not you ever right Abba's good Are we all out on that? Abba is good But if you go to my house, I'll we're gonna listen to it all the time every day You can't get tired of hearing dancing clean. You don't hear it. Yeah, good.

You know what really put me off is endless TV programs from the 90s with Moby saying how good dancing queen was shut up Moby Yeah, so I've got the two other ones here. I've got one is I've got a pamphlet It says redefusion color and there's a color television and all it's basically a wooden box We have a superimposed picture of a pretty lady on it pretty lady with ginger hair nice Yeah, and she's looking quite to me. She's got a hand on her cheek as a fin You know she's a respectable woman and she's looking for a nice gentleman to buy the television obviously And this is how they sell it is for clear natural color get redefusion this compact television set is designed to give clear natural color pictures As well as black and white it has a twenty inch super square direct viewing picture tube with true aspect ratio push button tuning and fully Transistorized Reliability and lower power consumption picture and sound coming fast from switch on the cabinet of the RT 537 slash 20 Which is finished in a dark stained tropical olive veneer Has a matching stand with smooth action casters for easy movement of a carpeted floor. Yeah It's great Specifications of it and it's a 20 inch super square direct I love it Also, it's funny reminded me when it says the sound of vision comes quickly after switch on yeah I was with that old telly's it had to warm up.

Could you hear the truth? We slowly I grew up with had push buttons on it so you're good up to the TV and press the button with the remote control the house Yeah, yeah, the other young guys that's a job right sit on the floor. I mean we go On the four TV channels for well, that's all we needed back then yeah We all we didn't need all the thousands of channels. I think my nan or certainly someone off extended family had a TV with a coin Slot in or rented TV and so because you know people couldn't afford TV back then so people places like run below the things were selling renting And some of them had coins lots in like you know you'd put it into the down it would work for half an hour or so That is crazy, isn't it?

Something quite I think quite nefarious of that kind of model of like you can have this luxury Yeah, we're gonna put it on a leash for you because we can't trust you with money you poor people Just That was the electricity there was a thing I have to put pounds coins in yeah It's just the way well I think it was because like things like the HP or whatever was coming at the time You know you buy things on the high on the high purchase so you know you bought a VCR You know you paid 30 quid a week or something for the rest of your life like a mortgage on it, you know And then maybe you paid it off but never you know that's what I'm really keen to ban like What I want you know people to join into entertainment. Oh no just like that kind of evil way of you know forcing people who don't have a lot of money Yeah, to be able to you know that they got I want this luxury item that everybody else has but I can't afford it But they can buy it it's exorbitant interest. Yeah, and that's evil It's just yeah, it's outright actual evil and in the end of the day You obviously people go out the up for cost to pay for those things straight out over time. You're spending much more money How capitalism makes it expensive to be poor That just this is the manifestation of evil It really is like it should be completely outlawed and so when I think of like growing up I never had to deal with that but I'm just thinking of people you know Oh, yeah, we know you got a lot so there you go Oh With this there That's why I'm having a conversation with Martin Coyote So Martin was just when I started out he really helped me, you know got me helping getting at the cutting edge at the store And he said that you know that he and his lot the guy from have I got news for you I think he heard him talking somewhere and how they were taught kids who went to what is it called the kind of school?

He went to public school, which is actually a private school really? Yeah Yeah, so in post schools the kids are taught that actually and this is said out loud to the children in the class That you kids who go to the public school are gonna grow up to become the captains of industry the Prime Minister the Prime Minister the This they know Chancellor whatever all this stuff and all those kids over there who go to the state school are gonna work for you Yeah, that's their lot and I love it. I loved it. I think it was a great experience But we're never taught how to handle money your train your language and and stack shells and do basic things We're not how to handle the responsibility money And so just this is what this when I look at this we were enjoying you all that wasn't it great back in the day Horrible and I think it's an ongoing thing like not teaching state school kids at how to handle money is creating problems Where you have a telly with a fucking meter on it.

Yeah, yeah, I'm also telling people they're gonna be you're gonna be the prime minister You're gonna be the you know, we leave to this utterly complacent bunch of corrupt ourselves in the government Yeah, because they're whole life. They told you you've got this They just fail they just and they say they fail upwards because the system around them supports it But the system that supports them is not allowed for everyone else. That's why this matter I mean, this is why when people go all the 70s 80s. Oh, I remember back to the future and ghost buses Yeah, the things that distracts you from how shit I mean my mum's like doing two jobs my dad's working nights I don't see the evenings and it's like I forget that so yeah I know that the 70s makes was awful the three-day week the garbage not picked up for months of power cuts and things like that This is the sugar coating which is just to kind of distract you from the fact that maybe we'll not learn all lessons If we're keeping ourselves distracted by slightly ephemeral stuff.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely I'm not saying they're really bad, but I think certainly from this day They we seem to be leaning on more on pop culture as a comfort blanket security blanket Then actually something that we need to use to inspire people to change how they see the world Yeah, any studio film now has an agenda. Yeah, you know, look at how China strong arm to Hollywood You're not saying that and then John Cena. Mr. Muscles is out there apologizing in Mandarin.

I'm like I mean it's interesting because yeah, it's not to demonize China But like because of their economy Hollywood, you know bending towards their will at times means this is just the example I can associate with ghost buses can never release in China because they have a no super natural policy in all their films now And also no time travel they will have film space around time. I find that particularly sort of Orwellian Yeah, well It's not too dissimilar to what they used to in their pop culture But like a close to the corner got released I don't think this new ones gonna get released in China anyway and that's a big cut into the profit I find it fascinating the whole time travel being banned because it's like the Chinese Communist Party saying We want to have the control of time so even the concept of being able to mess with time That's too dangerous. We don't want only we can say what It's not so hard you can't control people For you know, it's or China's history fascinating It's something I learned about at the moment like I've got a book I've got people on Mao and like why he's a he's a regular person I was telling you earlier watching this thing on Netflix on how to become a tyrant and Yeah, it's worrying that Well last night it was about id I mean who threw my parents out of Uganda where he went oh all these Asians They own all the businesses and they did yeah, but it's not because they were nefarious And evil just because they were hard working and you know what they were doing and so he they all had 90 days to leave With nothing and they came here and Britain took them in and we just superior lives now So really we kind of landed on our feet in a much better, you know society and Uganda all the Ugandans then took those Businesses didn't have to run them everything collapse. It's funny when you create a vacuum and you have the infrastructure to fill in It's like that's what kind of happened to Iraq Americans came in everybody out Yeah, I'll just mention this because I don't get into Iraq too much But like the other dollar episode about Iraq.

It's like a two hour. It's like two hour episode the dollar to podcast the dollar I'm talking about the fall out of the Iraq war Fascinating great podcast one of the pressing for our life is things that ever happened. It's just horrible Yeah, yeah One thing about China. Yeah, they never had democracy in China, right?

Yeah, come on some roses said they did And I heard this this guy in a pot while but eventually there's not a podcast saying there could be literally like Ecological reasons why it never arose because he was saying in China It's easier to administrate taxes. So because the land is all very similar You can it's easy for you to calculate how much grain has been grown in a certain area So you can it's easy for you to administrate the tax It's all kind of like for a marriage So you can just it's easy to do and so it's easy to have an authoritarian Autocratic system because you can do it there because of the way the uniformity of the grain the uniformity of the land Consistency of it so these reasons they're saying like ecological reasons why certain Systems arise in certain parts of the world and not in others Whereas if you're in Europe there's some guy who lives on a hill and is in a mountain you can't tell how much wealthy's got So it's hard if you to judge. Yeah, so everyone has to have a seat at the table there You see them. It's harder to govern harder to be or to grant and there's also this the universe in the universe There is everything everything you know duality left right down So in Yang so if you have democracy over here, you have to have a dictatorship somewhere else like it's it's impossible for something not to exist Like what's an idea?

It's not a sex shit So there's that but anyway, I think we're gonna go to war with China and We're too old so we're gonna be in the flipping drone room right using our video game skills Conspiracy Xbox one in place. They should find with the trading on next army majors It's a real it's a real change. I've just been doing a little bit research on Chinese history and it's fascinating just as a culture of people They have they invented everything. Yeah anything you think of the Chinese Noodles pattern The greatest achievement in human history basically you've heard it here first in run use of it's calling war on China I managed to go there.

I managed to visit mainland China Hong Kong twice and mainland China once nice It's man fascinating, but it's scary where we're going with it anyway basil brush I've got a basil brush up pamphlet when he was performing at the Victoria Palace Do you remember no one is I think but we done was like a guitarist wasn't really yes, and he just comes on Hopi for a pan to my man goes I was guitar he taught people to get John Williams kind of guy No, I think it was like a guitar educator. Oh weird. I mean, I'll be crush Also Tony Vena how would Williams yan hunt and less doogles doogles We all know who basil brushes The biggest name on the fucking bill on the back I hear the Ashcroft Theatre in Fairfield Croydon John sir We we all know yeah at Freddy Davis. Oh, this is the Jack of the beans book pan so oh yes The Jack of the Peter and mark winter with a wide Bob Grant and there is huge there is huge I know she was in the live a bird's the old Carla Lane sitcom our two skulls girls Bob Grant I believe was on the buses here there the big two The other Aldi Robbie out Robbie Aldi whenever I saw the live birds Whenever I saw the live birds I thought the liver birds and I thought birds that pick out people's livers That'll be better than watching the live that Greek guy.

He gets Prometheus is it he gets his liver regrows every day Yeah, he's picked by his pecked out. I wanted to say is that the premier God Prometheus? He gets his liver picked out. Yeah, I'm gonna challenge the gods and then the gods right went right for eternity You're gonna be chained to this rock and a bird will come and pack your liver out that fucking teacher for five Regrow but then he killed the bird and then his liver would regrow but even though it was already grown and then he'd have a huge liver coming out I'm just gonna end with this it's the EMI preview of films coming to your local cinema This is from Ipswich so in 78 79 you can look forward to Greece Shithers and rabid was a double bill.

Oh, that's the excellent excellent. I mean full on Handle rabbit after shivers here's what I didn't know have you ever heard of this it must be a live show Oh, no, it's not Billy Connolly in big banana feet just says cinemas in Bernardo TV area till December Yeah, he'd had a film big banana feet. I was called bananas. It says big banana feet here Well, I'm not a tiny colony is also a Billy Cott colony Connolly Billy's Colley He's also an artist I've seen his artwork not only in some of these galleries that you find in like Westfield's but also the Manchester comedy store backstage They've got bought a bunch of his artwork.

Wow. Yeah, and it's all just black line drawing of like fingers and stuff It's I still think he's the UK's best stand up easily easily. I just think there's nothing like him I'm the UK's best or Scotland's best. No the UK's.

Okay, you belong to the UK. Not just Scotland. Okay Scotland's best I presume I don't think I'm like when a Scottish person does well They're British and when they don't do so, it's like any matter. I do well Then I take one the best stand-ups of all time.

Yeah I've been like I've studied stand-up a lot I've got a lot of it understanding and trying to get good at it And what and I've seen people who've gotten a lot of time got really good people who've been good from like, you know Early on and all it really is all you can learn the mechanics of it like how to tell a joke, you know The stage presence or even work is but ultimately at its core truly great stand-up is about you is about self-expression That's all it is. It's not about your clever words, you know It's not trying to always let me expand my vocabulary and try to be just you truly being who you are and when you and you can't learn that It just it gets released and it's always I'm watching Bethany Black in Edinburgh in 2018 and I you know I'd never seen her perform. Oh, I've never seen a perform I don't think I'd have seen a perform at all and I went to watch a show and I went into a world that I didn't know about Which is her life. Yeah, and I remember just walking away to go She truly knows her life and she's like really good at expressing who she is.

Yeah, it's not about the cleverness of sure There's good crafted jokes. It's just the honesty That's all it is and that's all any comedian has to unlock It's something to learn but the true magic is unlocking what you really want to say and who you really are Yeah, my favorite stand-ups are all the ones who are good storytellers So Billy can only one of the best legends for the best. Jasper carrots a great storyteller I'm a Victoria would you know I mean it's like great storytellers who even if they don't make you laugh for five minutes You're sitting there going and at the end of the day he says you'll be and I go It's the fucking plastic shot. It's the fucking plastic shot.

Oh, it's the fucking plastic shot It's a fucking plastic shot and that's right. Ah You know what that noise is called boy a point a point a point I Know one needs this I don't need this that's the point Being a tutor cori do this it is you Yeah, he's got the real sort of dripping a cave then you know if you do get a bunch of the rocks coming in That's not making noise it's not and that's why I quickly put it down you like I think I bring it up That's just flapping paper I Think what we're doing right now is we're playing the price of shy and that is right and that is where we go to a charity shop We buy a bunch of items and then you as our guest will have to guess the price now usually what happens is it's a bit more free for all You see an item you have a rough guess of the price based on charity shops We're gonna go easy on you this time all right, so what we've got here are five prices right and you'll be asked to attach one of these prices to See we're gonna go through the items first looking discussing touching breathing kissing loving loving We're gonna start with this one all these were bought in charity shops like brit shop foundation mind So you either sorry what rules are we playing here? We're playing the one where you see five items and I give you five prices and you attach the price to the I need the prices no I'm giving you nothing almost literally I'm giving you You are here now as an expert because you know I'm an expert. Oh, you can give advice maybe all right.

Oh, I will yeah Usually you know we work for twins which is what we call points here on the show nice wing I said swing you will get the twins don't get me wrong for everyone you correctly attached to the item you'll get a Twin it means nothing but you get to hear a tape between I like say between more often Possibility of scoring no between so there's a very good opportunity all right then I'm gonna add a little bit of spice into this And I've got this lovely merry-out badge. Oh, you're playing for it. I'm playing for it one between no more Yes, at least three three put wings get to the badge one you could get lucky and win it I'm not giving him a badge out of luck. I want to give him the badge anyway You know, it's dressing up with some bloody edge we can throw things at the badge whatever So I want that badge So here we are five items all bought from charity shops and they're all because you're a video game fan all with a Game stream, so here's the first item for you say what you see this is a Nintendo DS copy off be for No, don't worry because they're all the fucking same And the game is in there also space in the DS case for a game Yes, because they could handle both of it in the DS couldn't they could put the Yeah, I always have the Incredibles in there because I never played the incredible someone gave you that game So yeah, this is a pre-owned copy of Nintendo So I'd imagine this is gonna be super cheap because what I've noticed Yeah, any time you go to computer exchange the previous beefers are like a penny They're like next to nothing because nobody wants to False if you're tuning up for every year and the game barely change Business model, isn't it fine?

The new players that they've started at the engine a little bit more depends, you know, maybe it's been a few years I never liked FIFA in fact I like ISS originally and then I just prefer playing football playing football is a far more fun for me I was very fond of the FIFA on the Mega Drive. I'm a player that was not sports But I do remember having fun playing FIFA 96 or whatever it was called on the Mega Drive Oh, I think it was for you. I like on the Mega Drive. It was ultimate football I think I think I thought it just felt right.

I didn't care about what the names were Not nonsense the control the mechanics are right. That's what Fake games always more fun because you always call like full Chester United Like name a famous football like you know Maradona Maradona be like a aradona And also what I really liked on those 16-bit games was all the sounds of crowd I remember the song from a remember striker and then those world cup striker. Yeah World Cup World Cup All those all for video game theme tunes are just like 30 seconds nippon to give you the itch right so FIFA's hockey never give us a price now, but you know you don't have to attach yourself to anything But out of rough guess what you think that might be cost might be cost under a quick on the record All right next item then FIFA I always used to have to watch my drug dealers play FIFA while I wait for them to sell me drugs Go around there and then I'll do this is really important matches In the kitchen reading paper or something and I'm standing in the doorway I'm trying to say something Paul Sometimes my expert there's my expert. No, it's good.

Thank you for telling us all about your sad moments picking up weed from weed houses on a state He said we'd he said drugs Hariset of a now next item is for you. Say what you say. It's a football theme still Oh, hello, this is a metal pin badge of kickoff three. Yeah, we leave when I mentioned this Someone close to the badges I bought from Camden a lot of them get into our kids about what the best kick off Right, right?

Do you know Dini? Oh, maybe yeah, I worked with them. Oh really? Yeah, oh really?

I'm on a squeebles the DS squeebles. You can be making this up. I have no idea. No, I did We'll be able to scream balls was a game.

So it was originally when I say originally it was meant to be for the Xbox 360 I was working for a company called performance design products, right? No, they bought out into games and became and they said into games were into games go by performance products And they were had a game where basically they invent there was a new controller an ultrasonic controller Which was using ultrasonic sound waves from a receiver that you plugged into the front your Xbox or PlayStation? So you could get actual 3d positional data on the controller. Oh, so you wear your hand in the Orientation or like if you had it upside down like with the Wii remote you Yeah, it's like accurate reading and I think Microsoft were about to buy them out and the same Microsoft went cold and went We don't want this anymore and then they announced a connect Right.

Oh, that's why I am and so then what happened is we balls then just got on to it was just for the Wii and for the DS And I was a party game just apart again kids and do you know Dini worked on the DS version and I started doing a gig I'd come home at midnight or be freelancing and I would because my adrenaline is pumping I'll just get my computer Dinos up and he's like I've got the latest bill I would do like the preliminary tests on the code to make sure that it worked Yeah, set the test plan up for my coat for my testers in the morning email it's done and then I'll go to bed And so nine o'clock my test is working. I'm still Right with the squibbles an actual sort of race of funny creatures Yes, they were mainly based on there was a fish one and there was An okay way in an acceptable But you can squeeze it's called Squibbles party available for the Wii and for the Nintendo DS And that was the last game I actually worked on yeah, and so this is a kick off three badge Yeah, a kick off three pin badge. It's metal. I imagine this will be yeah This will be like 50 P Next item Oh a Minecraft book a beginner's handbook.

Yeah, it's in good Nick There's a very good Nick Minecraft the block building game where you live in a world with blocks and you make blocks Yeah, you can enslave a bunch of villages. You're what you obsess with a slate slaving characters I'm not introducing squibbles. I'm not obsessed. He said abuse you could abuse them.

I simply have a conversation I didn't say out of nowhere. Could you abuse a squibble? It was a very leading question when you were going tell me more about these Squibbles there's obviously I can open world game mine. Yeah, of course There's ways you can get enslaved people and just kill them and it generates tokens Oh my god, either way.

It's a guide to playing Minecraft for the first time charity shop fine Well, it's the recommend the price on here is 799. Yeah, I'm a charity shop. I'd imagine this would be you have a play Minecraft I've not never tried it on my phone. How's that?

Anyway, it's next week for video game reviews In charity shop that's a quid you know a couple of quid I'm just like the interesting thing about charity shops is there are types of things you find in them and I find minecraft books ten of It's huge must be one of the most popular video games of all time one of the very biggest yet And also weirdly you got a member people just churning out shit to cash in on it on official guy books official guy books this When I went to game back in the late 90s early noughties a game would come out and people go right I've just put this brand new game. It's 10 out of 10 got great reviews and as they buy it They also buy the unofficial strategy. I'm like no. Yeah, it's crazy I'm a proper gamer Watching you know, I'm gonna watch the latest movie and I read the script at the same time Yeah, I used to write guides for games when I worked for like 64 magazine and then power station magazine And it was interesting because like we go Well, what games about for a few months that we can get a guy to and then we just reach out to the publishers And then they would just go here's all the maps here's all the locations and things and it was my job to kind of play through Using this information so I can say right.

It's just because then you have to go you get the red key Then you go back four rooms and got the ladder down the ladder through the key chain back there No, I know you get a respawn point. They're so there's like it's like it's like spoilers because I'm not a proper game, right? With it it's like having a spoiler it's like how to beat the challenges You actually do it. Yeah, that's all the games really are just puzzles.

Yeah, every game is actually just really a puzzle for you to use your own ingenuity To overcome right it's and that's what you should do if you're just cheating what's I don't know Yeah, well the thing is it's not how I'm saying cheating. It's interesting to me that you're losing the sense of discovery Yes, because I know you see guys are Mario Odyssey and you think oh no the fun of my fun for me is be going That's cool. Oh, that's cool. Oh, I can do that now So I personally feel there needs to be like a gateway drug game for kids So, you know you give a kid a game that they can play in front of them There's no real danger, but they get to know the basics so then eventually they get to things like dogs Eventually they start doing crack Eventually, it's a gateway drug game.

So eventually they get on to something they destroy their lives Talk about drugs. I'm talking about the idea of a gate. You know people about gateways get into getting me Yeah, all right next item another book fascinating one. I'll tell you the story about how I found this book So people who know me know I kind of live and let live with religions and that's fine But when I was waiting in line to get this book there was a guy who goes hmm my nephew's turning 10 I want to get everybody good book and any holy Bible's here for him to read I think he really needs to read the holy Bible.

I'm like, oh, right age 10 Yeah, it was like I don't know if my uncle came to me on my birthday goes I would be like come on at least give me Illustrated Bible it was the one he bought was a really thick great middle-looking one, you know Like something you hit a child with it is behaving anyway, so he's doing all this God to be on I think the guy behind the count being very very nice and saying yep, yep, yep All that stuff he buys his book but then continues to carry on talking and saying how he wants to he wants his child to He wants his nephew to I mean He was looking around and look at that flower. How could that happen by accident? He was trying to argue for the existence of God in the book shop. Yeah, sorry Either way that guy's being polite but he wants to move on there's a cue from behind me of people So I got tired of waiting so if one to this god-loving man, I slap down this book Porn and pong yeah, oh wow, that's a that's a how grand theft auto to me there and other sexy games change our culture by Damon Brown Forward by John M Gibson it's a book I'm actually generally interested to read about how sex and video games have this contentious relationship Yeah inside to my mom my support to Jane my guide and to parallel my love I think he's written the play boy or something.

Yeah, it's that Damon Brown covers sex technology and pop culture for playboy New York Post and planet out he'd be seen at blah blah blah. Yeah, and so this will be interesting. Yeah, this is Naked woman Oh and how so no these are making video games Naked but they got like you know dead or alive or the women from dead or alive who got big boobs and passes They're actually topless. Oh, that's where I'm got a war to yeah Let's shoot let's just let's just let's just let us Let's just suit Larry.

Yeah, yeah again Yeah, I'm saying custom revenge. Yeah, he's producing spunkle. Oh, that's it Beat a minute them where you're a man jacking off on a building and you come into the floor and the women below try and catch it I think it's the same publisher. So ultimately this oh, yeah BMX triple X Let me tell you a little story about BMX driven to it So that was I think the last game that basically put a claim in the ground I see trying to be a rock.

Yeah, BMX triple X was porn and BMX Yeah, I can see he walks you can't think yeah, so what happened and interesting about Tony Hawks Well, I used to work at Midway and who was it? Is it never soft and Treyarch who made Tony Hawks was never soft Activision published it? Yeah, it was a the Developer bought Tony Hawks a midway and went would you want to publish this? Yeah, but that was it reflections of a driver So driver and Tony Hawks came to Midway and went published our games at Midway went no They went on to sell a bajillion Yeah, it's one of the biggest efforts Yeah, yeah, and Tony Hawks massive sellers and the Midway went oh these games actually very good And we should publish it right let's start developing games that can compete with these now So we can turn up two years late No, this is it was a claim and it was in the era so in that game basically you can you do BMX tricks and what you do You can unlock naked riders and actual pornography in the bonus feature That's mad though the PR event was basically strippers So in order for the big PR event and it's a couple of guys who worked at Midway like we've got tickets We've got to go there's gonna be naked women and yeah, but be there and that was the end of a claim That was after that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah again, so but what's fascinating still and there's plenty of pitch can I keep this? What's ultimately, you know sex is the ultimate that this all the nakedness and sex is the ultimate power over humans like you know Just floor you just can't get it's just basic. It's just You can apply to anything video games TV advert. Yeah, you sexualize anything It's going to gain attention and video games are found away to it like cussets revenge.

It's just it's just yeah It's a base and I tend to find in video games it never works sex because it's either so robotic and forced and narrative driven that You're just pressing buttons and it's weird thing to do yeah Or it's a pointless thing you add into a game for shock value to make it Yeah, that's why I think that's what's gonna say isn't there you know with some of the more narrative games Isn't there sort of an argument to be made that there's a you know a sex scene like you'd have in a film like there's a yeah But in a film they are real human beings that look real and because they are really uncalley valley That's I'm just like what the this is Like you gotta have an action film but because there's too many sexy beefy men We don't want to some gay so you better give one a love interest in a sexy halfway through the film Yeah, that's what the audience is this is right hate about studio and like made by was it made by committee like like I'm midway to this we made red card football. Yeah, right? So we need that EA making loads of money making FIFA over there economy Making money making pro Evo midway made loads of money making NFL blitz and NHL hits and you know Whatever something shit right and they're like how can we get to the football market? And then they're like we want to make a top football game and we made it by committee Americans like we're gonna make it And that's the Americans what to do with this money?

They came over here and we hired out a what you call focus group company Yeah, got a bunch of young lads into a room and we watched them from one of those creepy And they're just talking shit and you know, we're just taking notes whereas artists should create art Yeah, I'm just creating a game don't get a bunch of kids like Steve Jobs quite famously said people don't know what they want Until you show it to them. Yeah, right and that's why red card came out and you never heard of it Yeah, it was just all about how can we make money from that market rather than how can we create an interesting, you know game and interesting Balance with films there's a balance. Yeah, I've created directors and writers who will who will change the film based on the preview screenings or whatever That's a lot of feedback. There's a receipt in there.

I don't want to look at the front. I don't know cheating I didn't know the Oh, Lee and the twins will only be destroyed. I didn't see the price. I'm still good There's the pictures of a yeah, that's actually sexy That's the hot coffee mini game in Santa Andreas rocks drew iron from Santa oh, yeah, of course I think about that was something that was in the game originally then removed before general Elite but cobra still in the game so people can play about something that people have hacked to find it is the problem Is I tend to find sex that within a really either kind of robotic way or distance immature way?

And it's a sort of big leaf and I don't understand why video games are trying to be like movies Let me ask you that. Let me ask you this tick-tack so they sex that up was a song called tic-tack so about sex is it yeah? And 18s one Yes, that rapper guy did tic-tack so it was sampled a lonely hot boy. Yes.

Oh, there he is Last item I've rattled on about porn not long enough and too long at the same time. Well, here is my shed shed dead experience Here's the line. I see den it's a team mug of what is it? You're my favorite don't tell anyone who is this character This is the thing I didn't know I was looking for one item that was in a fucking video game book and I saw this mug I thought yeah, it's like what I think it's a video games were scanned it with Google lens and it said it's a destiny It's a homemade destiny mug all right.

So to destiny to video game Is it that always online co-op fighty game? I'm actually online. Yeah, and then the mama. I was gonna say that my craft What's gonna say that my craft is it's not doesn't seem as sort of evil as something like fortnight where they get people to buy virtual Oh, yeah, you basically you can pay it basic, but if you really want to have fun You got to pay money right so you see the five items here the five prices all right We start with 50 p then we have one pound 150 175 and then two pound 50 so Eli's here to help if you think you need his help But what's on the XTP 50 p what you think was 50?

This is this is this is lovely in animal pin So this is a 50 p on the kickoff three bad because it's so small and dinky right okay good now at the end of this You can revise your scores if you want but how many between says you get one between per correct associate at it one between That's all five right it gets the badge and I'll give them a hand job So I don't know it's pre-fucking good by hand job Okay, no one wants your bloody hand jobs. I'm not fan of hand jobs One pound what do you think was one pound off this you got all these items books games? What was one pound just for clarity you got 150 next to 175 so it's a tough one what's the top price 250 But what would be the 250 price? I don't know I mean I do I wrote them down.

I've got thoughts What I was mind-jitting around you said about a quid for FIFA didn't you I did but remember that lesson the quid you said Yeah, I did say that however that's a computer exchange I don't know if charity shops have the same life kind of price I'll say there are much cheaper and charity shops. I've seen people give away for Xbox 360 games like a quid 150 They're all sports games though You know they're all like feet for seven or hockey because they've got that We were talking about yeah, so it's I mean he like doesn't know the prices by the way only I do I'm here as an impartial expert. Yeah in a charity shop. They would look at that and go how much is that good?

Would I don't know where they go how much is that computer change? They might look online how much it is 50 Consistency amongst these charity shops. I'm gonna swap it. Oh, we've got to be on the on the FIFA right and one pound for the for the badge a kick off bed No, I think because it's kick off three.

It's a little bit more like a luxury. I don't know about that We got it from a wall of badges in Camden so I don't think there was no difference No, I'll give you a little little they were all very cheap all the same price. All right, okay I Want to know to swap any prices round now All right, well then it's time to reveal the betweens. Oh, it's got at least one.

Yes, right sure of that go in order of price Okay, so 50p in this instance you said it was the pin badge It was 50p per twin one swing now can he get two more to win that illustrious Mario pin badge? I'm on ten books right number What was what was one pound one pound? Okay, so what was one pound you put it on the on the destiny mug? Oh, no, you were right to it was one pound Right next item he's doing very well so far is one pound 50 now you put that on the DS game on the fee for All right, you say one fifty for three for the S we say one pound fifty for the S and it's Your extra between great 75 you said was the porn in pond book.

Yeah, sadly no Expensive book here And Minecraft was one pound 75 works it works for other one in Kentish Is that it should have been that way round because they would have been loaded these and yeah, that's unusual Yeah, three out of five ain't bad as meat loaf once kind of Know what I said my dad was a fan no one picked up on that What is it selling so shops at Tesco's where they buy all their best clothes We know that it's not a stigma. Yeah, although I don't think I've ever shopped in a charity shop I don't think I have I'm not too sure. Oh much horrible thing that Ian Stone. Yeah went into a charity shop And he found an SS uniform and I'm like he took a picture it and I'm like I don't 75 quid was it a Well, and it was it was the coat and I'm like oh it was 75 quid and he was going anyway I thought I buy it as a joke Know what happened though, right?

Oh granddad just died lovely granddad. We've got to go through without some This I'm dodgy Unless the square just next to the station is antique shop that's all like all kinds of stuff and they've got like Nazi ratchet books and Nazi pin Badger and I'm there going is this allowed I mean if it rolls a bit of charity shop and people don't know what it is particularly Happens then fair enough. However running out of time So would you like to now bestow in my with this prize which is the beautiful Mario and Apple pin badge Well, why you fuck about looking at how old a badger's I'm gonna wrap this motherfucker up. Oh, yeah 82 was the age of the badger you like says 82 which would have been what before the NES and Super Mario land for the NES right so this is real old Mario.

It's good real old Mario anyway That's all we've got time for on cheap show this week. Oh, thank you so much in my being Yesterday on the show And I got a very nice It's really nice everyone seems to go away with something a little bit nice Yes, if you want to put some patron only if you can support some patron you can go to patreon.com forward slash cheap show You get extra videos and podcasts and magazines and all kinds of lovely lovely things he's peruse also our website The cheap show you can't use your one stop shop for links to our merch page Tony's merch page events will copy the magazine Videos every episode has a page dedicated with images and videos in my doing office badge focus I don't care So nice Thank you top form right so we're on social media Instagram Facebook all the usual things But if you want to follow us on Twitter most active at the cheap show pod I'm at Paul Ganon show and he lies Eli's annoyed spell ELI S N O I D I finally have a PO box if you want to send anything into the show you can send us all your lovely surprises at cheap show P O box 1309 Harrow H a one nine Q J and in run pink yo stuff How can people get into you and find out more about your things just Google my name go to him run use of calm I'm gigging all over the place. I've got some things happening. So I'm appearing in a show that's gonna appear in Netflix very soon So you can find better not be the next series of bloody how to be a fucking desk pot In my new stuff calm or just google my name I've got youtube channel 7 million hits check out my comedy also give a shout out to my friend Adam Humphrey who loves this show thinking about your bro Thank you for your show don't do it And it's been a joy to be here so look at me in my new stuff I suppose to be not on the show with Eli Silverman and Paul Gannonne and here's my pounds of being very kind that's all the time for today You like any parting thoughts?

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