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EPISODE · Jun 11, 2026 · 46 MIN

Ep 247 - Intra-Relational Behaviour Support.

from The Forest School Podcast · host Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden

What if the secret to better behaviour support in forest school isn't focusing on the child at all?Lewis and Wem are back for a wide-ranging, woodland-based chat that opens with lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven before diving into some genuinely rich territory: what does it actually mean to take an intraaction-based approach to behaviour? How do you move away from old-school "fix the child" thinking without sliding into permissiveness? And what can a day of interpretive dance, collective poetry, and drama research in Bristol teach us about forest school pedagogy? Plus: squirrels, rabbits round the fire pit, the Southwest FSA Gathering, tenon cutters, and Wem's mysterious single-name workshop listing at the national conference.Chapter Titles and Timestamps:0:00 - Lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven2:00 - Wearing messy, child-made things as a badge of honour4:29 - Following up on Dr Wendy Russell: intraaction and behaviour support6:54 - Old-school behaviour management vs. shifting what you can actually control8:50 - The soup of a person: inner worlds, neuroplasticity, and fixed mindset language14:20 - Persistent offering and not closing doors too early17:53 - Is intraaction-based behaviour support just permissive?20:02 - The communal cooking example: setting people up to succeed22:27 - How loudly does John's sadness exist? On heterarchy and roles26:07 - The Tangled Roots of Creative Research and Social Justice, Bristol33:42 - The Conference of Trees and the value of cross-disciplinary spaces35:49 - Space-setting intentions vs. ground rules: lessons from a research day40:12 - The Southwest FSA Gathering at Hateford Woods41:10 - Tenon cutters, turmeric dyeing, and beatboxing44:29 - National conference plans, and Wem's workshop: Looking at Play Playfully46:45 - Beech overhang, approaching rain, and goodbyeSupportive Elements:Listen back to the episode with Dr Wendy Russell on play, posthumanism, and spatial justice for children, which this conversation directly follows on from. We also reference our previous episode on Nonviolent Communication. Find everything at www.children-of-the-forest.com. Support the show from around £2/month at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast , and leave us a voice message via the SpeakPipe link on the website.

What if the secret to better behaviour support in forest school isn't focusing on the child at all?Lewis and Wem are back for a wide-ranging, woodland-based chat that opens with lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven before diving into some genuinely rich territory: what does it actually mean to take an intraaction-based approach to behaviour? How do you move away from old-school "fix the child" thinking without sliding into permissiveness? And what can a day of interpretive dance, collective poetry, and drama research in Bristol teach us about forest school pedagogy? Plus: squirrels, rabbits round the fire pit, the Southwest FSA Gathering, tenon cutters, and Wem's mysterious single-name workshop listing at the national conference.Chapter Titles and Timestamps:0:00 - Lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven2:00 - Wearing messy, child-made things as a badge of honour4:29 - Following up on Dr Wendy Russell: intraaction and behaviour support6:54 - Old-school behaviour management vs. shifting what you can actually control8:50 - The soup of a person: inner worlds, neuroplasticity, and fixed mindset language14:20 - Persistent offering and not closing doors too early17:53 - Is intraaction-based behaviour support just permissive?20:02 - The communal cooking example: setting people up to succeed22:27 - How loudly does John's sadness exist? On heterarchy and roles26:07 - The Tangled Roots of Creative Research and Social Justice, Bristol33:42 - The Conference of Trees and the value of cross-disciplinary spaces35:49 - Space-setting intentions vs. ground rules: lessons from a research day40:12 - The Southwest FSA Gathering at Hateford Woods41:10 - Tenon cutters, turmeric dyeing, and beatboxing44:29 - National conference plans, and Wem's workshop: Looking at Play Playfully46:45 - Beech overhang, approaching rain, and goodbyeSupportive Elements:Listen back to the episode with Dr Wendy Russell on play, posthumanism, and spatial justice for children, which this conversation directly follows on from. We also reference our previous episode on Nonviolent Communication. Find everything at www.children-of-the-forest.com. Support the show from around £2/month at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast , and leave us a voice message via the SpeakPipe link on the website.

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