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EPISODE · Oct 9, 2025 · 40 MIN

EP 25: Ian Smith: Former Rugby Super League Referee on Mental Health, Identity, and Peer Support

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Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Shoulder to Shoulder, Cate speaks with Ian Smith, a former Rugby Super League referee turned mental health advocate with the charity State of Mind Sport.After officiating over 300 professional matches, Ian’s unexpected exit from the sport led to a personal mental health crisis and a deep loss of identity. In this honest and powerful conversation, he shares how peer support helped him rebuild — and why he now works to support others through State of Mind’s education sessions across the UK.Ian also reflects on his close friendship with ex-rugby league star Jimmy Gittins, and how their contrasting journeys in rugby league give them a unique voice in the mental health space. Topics include:– Mental health after professional sport– Peer support and identity loss– The work of the charity State of Mind Sport– Resilience, friendship, and life after the whistleWhether you’re in sport, going through a major transition, or supporting someone who is — Ian’s story is a reminder that peer support changes lives.Learn more at with-you.co.ukVisit State of Mind Sport to find out moreListen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.With-you consultancy: www.with-you.co.uk

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