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EPISODE · Feb 8, 2020 · 1H 14M

EP-255 Ray Daniels, Founder, Cicerone

from Good Beer Hunting · host Good Beer Hunting

About a month ago, an annual tradition took place: the announcement of the new Master Cicerones.  It's an exciting and heartbreaking time for many folks who put in months and even years of studying and training to pass one of the most difficult, esoteric, and unpredictable certification exams in all of food and beverage.  Another part of that annual tradition, at least in the past couple years, is the ensuing debate on #beertwitter about the value of the certification, and the relevance of the things it tests for. There are some perfectly valid questions asked about the program—we know this because the program itself has evolved over time. But there are also some really wild ideas that get tossed around that seem to be rooted more in our iconoclastic, anti-expertise culture than anything else. Many question the value of a professional development track rooted in knowledge rather than experience, as if the two are somehow separable. In short, some people just want to see the Cicerone world burn.  So we did what we tend to do in these situations, and decided to help the world get to know the person and the intent behind the thing.  Ray Daniels is the founder of the Cicerone program, and before that he held a number of unique roles at the Brewers Association. And before that he was a marketer and public relations professional, author, and almost, almost, started a brewery in Chicago with one of the city's other luminaries, Randy Mosher. I, for one, love imagining what a brewery started by Ray Daniels and Randy Mosher in the late '90s or early aughts would be like in 2020. It'd probably be just as anachronistic as it was relevant. Which is kind of what we get with Cicerone.  We're going to chart Ray's journey, look at how Cicerone has evolved over the years, examine who it's for and who it's not, and discuss how it maintains relevance in an industry with about 10,000 more breweries than when it started.

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