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EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 39 MIN

Ep. 26 - Inside Scotland’s Slowest, and Smartest, Sauce Brewery - Jonathan Hope

from Chain Reaction - The Supply Chain and Logistics Podcast · host Michael Ostroumov

If you operate in craft / batch production, logistics becomes a cashflow and service-level problem, not just transport. This episode covers how to scale without losing quality.In this episode of Chain Reaction, Michael Ostroumov sits down with Jonathan Hope, co-founder of Slow Sauce, a Scotland-based miso and soy sauce brewery built on tradition, craftsmanship, and patience. Jonathan describes his unconventional journey—from studying Chinese and business, to becoming a chef, to turning a fermentation experiment into a full-fledged brewery. He breaks down the intricate, months-long process behind miso and shoyu production, highlighting how precision, time, and hands-on work shape the final product.The conversation expands into the tension between artisanal production and modern business realities. Jonathan shares how he balances authenticity with the need for operational efficiency, using AI for monitoring and admin tasks while protecting the human craft at the heart of the business. The two explore the philosophy of slowing down, the role of personal well-being in entrepreneurship, and the challenge of scaling a product that refuses to be rushed. It’s a story of passion, patience, and building a business that values people as much as product.GUEST BIO KEY TAKEAWAYSHow a background in languages and international experience unexpectedly led Jonathan into culinary arts and fermentation.Why becoming a chef sparked a passion that eventually turned into a business.The origin of Slow Sauce’s fermentation process and how traditional koji cultivation works.How oats and peas became the uniquely Scottish base for miso and shoyu.The challenges and beauty of long production cycles—from daily stirring to 12-month maturation.How authenticity shapes every operational decision, including avoiding stainless steel industrial tanks.Why some processes must remain slow, even as the business world speeds up.The role of AI in automating administrative burdens like temperature logs and safety checks.Why tech is used to enhance—not replace—the human craft of fermentation.The emotional toll of early-stage entrepreneurship and how Jonathan recalibrated through intentional slowing down.The importance of personal rituals, hobbies, and mental space in making better business decisions.Jonathan’s long-term vision: building a community-focused workplace powered by people, not machines.CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome to Chain Reaction 00:34 Meeting Jonathan Hope 01:04 Jonathan’s Unusual Career Path 02:40 Becoming a Chef and Discovering Fermentation 03:52 Inspirations Behind Slow Sauce 05:45 Japanese Craft Meets Scottish Tradition 07:23 Balancing Passion and Business 08:32 How Miso and Soy Sauce Are Actually Made 12:28 Understanding Koji and Fermentation 12:56 The Role of the Casks 14:33 Why Some Sauces Take 12 Months 15:45 Product Range and Production Cycles 16:50 Managing Slow Processes in a Fast World 18:34 Where AI Fits Into a Traditional Craft 20:34 Tech as a Support, Not a Replacement 21:35 Challenges of Scaling a Slow Business 22:57 Authenticity vs. Automation 24:33 The Art of Slowing Down 25:31 Personal Routines and Avoiding Burnout 29:06 Slowing Down to Make Better Decisions 29:58 Marketing a Product That Takes Time 31:45 Building Authentic Content and Community 33:20 The Magic Wand Question 35:27 A Community-Centred Future for Slow Sauce 37:27 Closing ThoughtsExplore FLOX (Supply Chain & Logistics Orchestration)Need flexible partners for storage and distribution as you scale? Explore the Marketplace#SupplyChain#Logistics#SupplyChainManagement#LogisticsOperations#SupplyChainStrategy#LogisticsTechnology#SupplyChainVisibility#LogisticsMarketplace#SupplyChainLeadership#FLOX

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