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Ep. 28: From 150 Tools to 14,000: The Man Who Mapped Martech | Scott Brinker Analyst @ chiefmartec

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The two moats that made enterprise martech defensible — owning the data and charging per seat — are cracking at the same time. Scott Brinker, creator of the martech landscape and VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot, explains why the CRM/CDP data moat just got weak, what "systems of context" are, and where the next big companies get built.This episode is brought to you by Stifel Bank — trusted banking and venture debt partner for Sierra Ventures' portfolio. Learn more at stifel.com.Chapters:(0:00) Cold open: "Prompt engineering? That's so 2024"(1:07) From 150 tools to 14,000: why Scott mapped martech(3:28) Systems of context — and why the CDP never delivered(8:02) The three-layer martech stack, explained(12:10) What "context" actually means for AI agents(16:10) AI SDRs and the rise of "context graphs"(23:13) Why the CRM and CDP data moat just got weak(32:46) Incumbents vs. startups: who wins the context layer(36:46) AEO, agentic commerce, and the new buyer journey(53:52) Will AI agents kill seat-based pricing?Where to find Scott Brinker:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjbrinkerWebsite: chiefmartec.com

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