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EPISODE · Mar 10, 2026 · 37 MIN

[EP 35] The Tough Stuff of Leadership with Lianne Lyne

from Change Is Hard · host Audrey Blair

We talk a lot about resilience, grit, and pushing through. But what if leadership isn’t just about holding on tighter?In this episode, I’m joined by Lianne Lyne, CEO of Mind Tough, for a conversation about what real toughness looks like in leadership. We talk about discomfort, growth, critical thinking, psychological safety, and why so many leaders misread uncertainty as a sign they’re doing something wrong.We also talk about career pivots, learning to let go of old identities, and the reality that growth often feels less like confidence and more like conscious incompetence. In other words: awkward, exposed, and necessary.A few things we explore in this conversation:Why mental toughness is more than gritThe difference between caring for people and overprotecting themWhy innovation cannot thrive in a culture of fearHow leaders get stuck in competence and avoid growthWhy critical thinking matters more than everThe danger of leading from assumptions instead of factsWhat psychological safety actually makes possible on a teamWhy the so-called soft skills are really the tough stuffIf you’re in a season of stretch, change, or reinvention, this conversation will meet you there.Connect with Lianne Lyne / Mind Tough:Website: BeMindTough.comConnect with Audrey

We talk a lot about resilience, grit, and pushing through. But what if leadership isn’t just about holding on tighter?In this episode, I’m joined by Lianne Lyne, CEO of Mind Tough, for a conversation about what real toughness looks like in leadership. We talk about discomfort, growth, critical thinking, psychological safety, and why so many leaders misread uncertainty as a sign they’re doing something wrong.We also talk about career pivots, learning to let go of old identities, and the reality that growth often feels less like confidence and more like conscious incompetence. In other words: awkward, exposed, and necessary.A few things we explore in this conversation:Why mental toughness is more than gritThe difference between caring for people and overprotecting themWhy innovation cannot thrive in a culture of fearHow leaders get stuck in competence and avoid growthWhy critical thinking matters more than everThe danger of leading from assumptions instead of factsWhat psychological safety actually makes possible on a teamWhy the so-called soft skills are really the tough stuffIf you’re in a season of stretch, change, or reinvention, this conversation will meet you there.Connect with Lianne Lyne / Mind Tough:Website: BeMindTough.comConnect with Audrey

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