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Ep. 372: "Tricky Times" – Navigating the Messy Middle of Change with Author & Corporate Anthropologist Jitske Kramer of HumanDimensions

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Jitske Kramer is a corporate anthropologist, an inspiring speaker, entrepreneur founder of HumanDimensions, and author of the book, "Tricky Times: Navigating The Messy Middle of Change" in which she deciphers the complexities of transition and transformation. Mike Petrusky asks Jitske about the concept of liminality, which refers to the transitional phase during change, where old ways no longer apply, but the new ways are not yet clear. This phase is characterized by uncertainty, anxiety, and the potential for creative solutions, so they discuss how cultures are created through the processes of interaction and decision-making and explore why understanding these processes can help leaders influence and guide cultural shifts within organizations. Jitske believes that the physical layout of workplaces and environments reflects the cultural narrative and values of an organization and facility management leaders can influence that narrative by rearranging the physical world. Mike and Jitske discuss the value of effective communication and offer the practical advice and inspiration you will need to be a Workplace Innovator in your organization! Connect with Jitske on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitskekramer/ Learn more about HumanDimensions and the work Jitske does: https://jitskekramer.com/ Explore Jitske's book, "Tricky Times": https://tricky-times.com/ Discover free resources and explore past interviews at: https://eptura.com/discover-more/podcasts/workplace-innovator/ Learn more about Eptura™: https://eptura.com/ Connect with Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikepetrusky/  

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