EPISODE · Jun 26, 2026 · 1H 6M
Ep. 4: Everybody Wants Friends For The Highlight, Not The Fight
from The POP Podcast · host Transformation Church
"Everybody wants friends for the highlight. It's a different thing to have a friend for the fight."In Episode 4 of the POP Podcast, Mike and Charles continue their conversation on community, this time about the friends who show up when it's inconvenient, when you're losing, and when there's nothing to gain.In this episode:- Why most people go to the valley alone, and why that's dangerous- The caterpillar and the ant (why some friendships can't survive your transformation)- Why your marriage becomes your primary relationship- The difference between friends for the highlight and friends for the fight- The 1 AM story: when Charles was at his lowest and his friends showed up- Why a real friend doesn't try to fix it, they bring presence, truth, and prayer- Leading vulnerably when everyone depends on you- "We are firemen", why you don't run from the fire, you run into itThis episode is Part 2 of our conversation on community. If you haven't heard Episode 3 yet, start there.We believe in Progression Over Perfection. Through theology, therapy, and community, God can turn trauma into triumph.New episodes every Friday.Follow the show: Instagram: @TheOfficialPOPpodcast TikTok: @TheOfficialPOPpodcast YouTube: youtube.com/@poppodcastFollow the hosts: Mike: @iammiketodd Charles: @charlesmetcalf
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