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EPISODE · May 5, 2026 · 46 MIN

Ep. 42 From Sedona: What the Sedona Forum Reveals About the World

from Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon · host Sue Gordon & Eric Koepp

In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue returns from the McCain Institute’s Sedona Forum — the annual gathering of U.S. and world leaders— with a clear takeaway. From Ukraine to China to Iran, the world’s major conflicts are no longer being resolved. They’re being managed. And the tools we’ve relied on — more money, more technology, more military power — aren’t closing the gap.This week's reflections: Ukraine, China, Iran, Japan’s military transformation, the U.S. budget crisis, food security, and the 21st century technology revolution find a common thread that we have more capability than ever, but we can’t turn capacity into outcome. The episode builds toward a new framework: parity of capability doesn’t produce security — it produces stalemate. "We're entering a new phase of conflict — not about resolution, it's about managing it"Timestamps: 00:33 Introduction to Understandable Insights01:05 May the 4th Be With You03:08 Episode 42 Overview05:38 Ukraine 10:51 China15:06 Iran20:05 Japan26:40 Budgets and Spending32:08 Food Security and Access35:05 Tech Revolution39:59 Episode 42 Summary44:24 What We’re WatchingAbout the show:Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon is the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.Each week, Eric Koepp — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.Website and Feedback:Remember we’re here for you. Provide us feedback or suggest topics for next time: Feedback Send us Fan MailJoin us on Youtube, Instagram, and wherever you enjoy your podcasts. New episodes every Tuesday.  Follow or subscribe today.

In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue returns from the McCain Institute’s Sedona Forum — the annual gathering of U.S. and world leaders— with a clear takeaway. From Ukraine to China to Iran, the world’s major conflicts are no longer being resolved. They’re being managed. And the tools we’ve relied on — more money, more technology, more military power — aren’t closing the gap. This week's reflections: Ukraine, China, Iran, Japan’s military transformation, the U.S. budget crisis, food...

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