Ep. 44: How Julie Kratz Impacted the Work Performance of Over 10,000 People Through Her Allyship Programs, And Almost Lost it All.

Organizations that treat inclusion as a day of slogans will be outpaced by those that build it into how leaders actually behave. Julie Kratz professor at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business and CEO of Next Pivot Point, turned a decade of consulting into repeatable allyship programs that have trained hundreds of leaders at the likes of Amazon, TripAdvisor, Hitachi, and Fast Company.   Julie walks listeners through a practical, cohort-based approach: pre- and post-assessments on knowledge, ability to practice, and confidence, weekly skill deep dives, then back-to-work application and coached reflection. The model scaled from one leadership team to five cohorts and 200 leaders, producing measured lifts (roughly 20–30%) in people's ability to use inclusive skills, and it's paired with Julie's books, podcasts, a 19-minute program infomercial, and downloadable workbooks at NextPivotPoint.com.   Key Takeaways: Implement a cohort learning loop: design a learning cycle that teaches one skill, sends leaders back to practice, and uses reflection sessions for peer coaching and troubleshooting. Build assessment-driven programs: create pre/post tools that measure knowledge, confidence, and frequency of practice to demonstrate learning impact. Institutionalize allyship: convert individual skills into concrete policies and processes across hiring, promotions, and pay equity so practices endure. Influence decision-makers: craft "what's in it for me" messaging and ROI conversations that engage executives and secure budgets for inclusive initiatives. Future-proof talent strategy: apply cultural-intelligence practices and proactive pipeline techniques to attract Gen Z and a more diverse, neurodivergent workforce.   Join us with Julie Kratz as she teaches leaders how to convert allyship from a nice-to-have into measurable practices that strengthen teams, protect talent pipelines, and drive real organizational change.   🏆𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐚 𝐏𝐌𝐏? 𝐄𝐚𝐫𝐧 𝐘𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐏𝐃𝐔𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐝𝐜𝐚𝐬𝐭! 👉View this Episode's Full Show Notes at ScaleTalesPodcast.com. © Copyright 2025. Scale Tales is an Equilibria, Inc. podcast. We're dedicated to providing resources to support founders, leaders, and project managers of fast-growing organizations in scaling back-office operations without pain and chaos. Visit our website to learn more.