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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 28 MIN

Ep. 49 - When Saying No Isn't Enough: A Psychiatrist's Honest Take on Addiction Treatment

from Two Shrinks and a Mic · host Dr. Andrew Rosen & Dr. David Gross

Send us Fan MailDr. Rosen and Dr. Gross sit down with addiction psychiatrist Dr. Adam Demner to talk about what actually happens — and what doesn't — when someone tries to get clean.The conversation covers a lot of ground: why treating addiction without addressing the underlying psychology can backfire, how early psychoanalytic approaches actually drove some patients to drink more, and what the monkey bars have to do with recovery. Dr. Demner walks through the stages of change in plain terms, including what it looks like when someone's not even close to ready, and why that still doesn't mean treatment has nothing to offer.They get into the 28-day rehab model, why the best outcomes often come from longer stays, and what physician recovery programs can teach us about the role of accountability versus insight. There's also a candid conversation about the growing cultural pressure around psychedelics and marijuana — and why "the research supports it" isn't always what people think it means.The throughline is something all three of them come back to: addiction treatment isn't a quick fix, it's rarely linear, and the goal isn't a diagnosis — it's a person.Contact the Docs:Email: [email protected] the Docs:Email: [email protected]

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Send us Fan Mail Dr. Rosen and Dr. Gross sit down with addiction psychiatrist Dr. Adam Demner to talk about what actually happens — and what doesn't — when someone tries to get clean. The conversation covers a lot of ground: why treating addiction without addressing the underlying psychology can backfire, how early psychoanalytic approaches actually drove some patients to drink more, and what the monkey bars have to do with recovery. Dr. Demner walks through the stages of change in plain ter...

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