EPISODE · Jul 3, 2026 · 1H 10M
Ep. 5: You're Sleeping But You're Not Resting
from The POP Podcast · host Transformation Church
"Some people are sleeping that still aren't resting."In Episode 5 of the POP Podcast, Mike and Charles get hot, humble, open, and transparent about the most counter-cultural thing they do, rest. In a culture that glorifies the grind, they make the case that rest isn't laziness. It's a gift, a rhythm, and a commandment.In this episode:- Why sleep is part of rest, but not the whole thing- The "engine of insecurity" that drives so many of us, and what it costs- Why you can be wildly successful and have completely the wrong motive- Why the Sabbath is the commandment nobody talks about- How God modeled rest in creation (we were made to work FROM rest, not FOR it)- The sabbatical that started Relationship Goals, and the POP friendship- What rest actually looks like, practically, week to week- "You do all the work for the people, but the people just want you"If you're exhausted, running on coffee and adrenaline, successful but unable to enjoy it, this one's for you.We believe in Progression Over Perfection. Through theology, therapy, and community, God can turn trauma into triumph.New episodes every Friday.Follow the show: Instagram: @TheOfficialPOPpodcast TikTok: @TheOfficialPOPpodcast YouTube: youtube.com/@poppodcastFollow the hosts: Mike: @iammiketodd Charles: @charlesmetcalf
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