[Ep. 51] What I learned after getting laid off w/ Kati Kallins

Kati’s career journey went from leading a wild salmon research study to driving sustainability initiatives at major tech companies likeGoogle,Meta, andAdobe.What I find most inspiring about Kati isn’t just her commitment to building a purpose-driven career—it’s her willingness to continuously reassess what success and wellbeing truly mean. During COVID, she was white-knuckling her job, convinced she needed it to survive. Then came the layoff. And instead of spiraling, she started asking: What if my career isn’t my identity? What does success even mean? And more importantly—how do I want to live?As someone who’s been interrogating the meaning of work for a while now, Kati’s concept of a _passion portfolio_ hit me hard.She was laid off at one of the lowest points in her life—but the experience became her turning point.That forced reset became the gift she didn’t know she needed—a chance to reassess, rebalance, and build a life where she could actually thrive.I loved this conversation. Join me as we dive into Kati’s journey with money, career, and a refreshing take on what it really means to “make it.” Let’s dive in.01:55 What does corporate sustainability mean?04:52 Google’s sustainability initiative08:41 Golden handcuffs VS Betting on yourself13:36 Getting laid off18:50 Mental shift after burnout25:29 Getting a financial advisor is the same as getting a personal trainer