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EPISODE · Jun 10, 2026 · 44 MIN

Ep 53: Beyond KPI: Patterns, People, and the Future of Leadership with Arjan Visser

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In this episode of The Agency Rocket Show, Liz Hunt sits down with Arjan Visser for a deep conversation about creative leadership, vulnerability, burnout, and the growing tension between management systems and human creativity. The conversation also explores Liz’s upcoming book, The 9 Types of Creatives, including the “Visionary” archetype, a creative profile centered around high-level thinking, leadership, innovation, and future-focused vision. Together, they discuss: Why traditional management structures often fail creative teams The importance of relational safety in leadership How insecurity impacts both creatives and managers Recognizing patterns in creative personalities and teams The tension between predictability and innovation Why leaders need peer groups outside their organization The danger of self-sacrifice in leadership How creative archetypes can become tools for understanding instead of labels This episode is for agency owners, creative leaders, entrepreneurs, managers, and anyone trying to build healthier, more human-centered teams.   Interested in learning more about future-focused leadership and identity-driven strategy?  Check out LEAD THE FUTURE: 7 Steps to Expand your Identity, Strategic Foresight, and Vision by Arjan Visser on Amazon   Connect with Arjan Visser on LinkedIn 

In this episode of The Agency Rocket Show, Liz Hunt sits down with Arjan Visser for a deep conversation about creative leadership, vulnerability, burnout, and the growing tension between management systems and human creativity. The conversation also explores Liz’s upcoming book, The 9 Types of Creatives, including the “Visionary” archetype, a creative profile centered around high-level thinking, leadership, innovation, and future-focused vision. Together, they discuss: Why traditional management structures often fail creative teams The importance of relational safety in leadership How insecurity impacts both creatives and managers Recognizing patterns in creative personalities and teams The tension between predictability and innovation Why leaders need peer groups outside their organization The danger of self-sacrifice in leadership How creative archetypes can become tools for understanding instead of labels This episode is for agency owners, creative leaders, entrepreneurs, managers, and anyone trying to build healthier, more human-centered teams.   Interested in learning more about future-focused leadership and identity-driven strategy? Check out LEAD THE FUTURE: 7 Steps to Expand your Identity, Strategic Foresight, and Vision by Arjan Visser on Amazon   Connect with Arjan Visser on LinkedIn

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