Ep. 58: Andrew Dai, Elorian CEO and Former DeepMind Research Director

Andrew Dai is the co-founder and CEO of Elorian, a new visual reasoning research and product lab. Before Elorian, Andrew was a research director at DeepMind, where he was the Gemini data area co-lead, PaLM 2 pre-training lead, and GLaM MoE LLM co-lead.Delta Institute (deltainstitutes.org) supports exceptional researchers and engineers, from academia to industry and beyond. They host technical events to bring great people together, a podcast that gives industry/academic leaders a platform to share their experiences, a small fellows program that builds a tight-knit community of exceptional people, and a grant program that provides compute/mentorship for research projects.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction00:16 Google Brain Origins01:22 From GPT Roots to Gemini02:20 Why Build Elorian03:57 Anthropic vs Gemini Vision04:48 Measuring Multimodal Quality06:08 Defining Visual AGI07:57 Building the Multimodal Lab09:41 Reasoning in Visual Space11:46 What Makes Models Better15:57 Research Milestones and Benchmarks18:09 How to Think Architecturally21:55 Go To Market and Verticals27:13 Where Accuracy Matters Most29:15 Defending Against Churn30:40 Think Big Closing Thoughts