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From the glow of St. Paul's Number One, welcome to another edition of Cabin Country. Give us the time and we'll take you out of the traffic and away from the levee. Let's find the place where the looms call out among the moonlit waves.
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I'm Bjorn Lloyd-Sten, and I'm Flood Klugman. And we are here with Cabin Country today. We are in the beautiful area of South Minneapolis. I think this is accurately South Minneapolis, Andy?
I tell people that I live in Uptown. Uptown. Not the sticks. No, this isn't the sticks.
Prince's Song of the same name. Uptown. Alright, we're sitting down with local musician, Andy Vollars, I guess, tonight, folks, are this afternoon, and a musician's musician. I refer to you as a musical polyglot in that you like all styles.
You've played all styles live, often for huge crowds of people who love Zydeco, Jez, kind of classical, rock. I've listened to you annually play holiday songs, and so many instruments you play. The guitar on. Otherwise known as the mariachi bass.
The bass player would be playing the bass. Yeah, cool. I love that instrument. It's outstanding.
It's got such a round sound. I love it. I think you were playing that for a version of three pack of musicians on stage doing Ring of Fire. Oh, yeah.
I remember that. That was beautiful stuff. I wept. I wept.
I laughed. I enmeshed my teeth. The baritone sax, the piano, the electric keys. It's hard.
Am I leaving anything out? clarinet? It's better than those flutes. Anything at all.
I don't know. Yeah, I think you covered it all. I mean, now I'm just mainly playing keyboard stuff, and so piano, or I have a portable electric keyboard and a accordion, and I play a lot of accordion, and so that's super fun. When I was a kid, all the kids in my family took piano lessons from the neighborhood piano lady or took a band instrument, and my band instrument was the clarinet.
And so if you know the clarinet, then you can play the saxophone, and it was never too good at it, and it wasn't not too good at the saxophone, but with a baritone saxophone, all I was aiming to do was play those little baroom parts. Yes. That baroom. And I was able to figure that one out.
So I still got a baritone sax every four or five years I get it out. And baroom. Yeah, I have a baroom available. I, our daughter's trumpet is still in our house, and I play the French horn.
Fingering's identical. Yeah. So it's just showing me how much I've forgotten about French horn. Every time I pull out that trumpet, you know, but it's fun to play.
Yeah. Baritone sax is such an imposing instrument too. It's so big. Yes.
Big and shiny and crazy. You know, anyway, Andy, as if you haven't picked up on it, is a master of many instruments, and one of these guys who will show up, and if there's music being played, will certainly add to it and improve it. So as a musician, do you fancy yourself more a cabin goer, an angler, or a hunter? I would definitely say angler.
Angler. Yes. What I like most about playing music is serendipity. And I like, if I'm playing music with people just to shoot from the hip, and you see what happens.
And if I'm playing music by myself, I like to just start a page and throw a music book, look at a tune, try to figure out, you know, how I could play it in a way that I like, or that hasn't been tried or something. How to make it sound nice. And so with fission, there's a lot of guesswork involved. You're plunking your bass, you're lying over there, over here, you're hoping for the best.
You sometimes have an intuition about something that you go after, but it seems to be like you're casting about, and I think that's what I do. Hunters are more methodical by that picture. And when they get something, they usually try to kill it, but I like to release a tune back to where it came from, and come back to it another day. Just like the fish you might go.
Exactly. We had a horrifying story like that a couple weeks ago, that is by a large show. But loves to catch him released right off the dock on the Gal River, and a large mouth. Couldn't release this.
He swallowed two sets of treble hooks right into its gills. So I guess you might say bereaved two sets of treble hooks. That was for men, as a pulmonologist, you know. You don't want treble hooks, you just inhaled your tail piles.
I'm really not sure what I'm going to do for you. You had me a treble hook. Those things. If you swallow a treble hook, you're not going to treble like that.
It's yours now. You know what's for dinner? That's your point. All three of us are very much let it go.
Because frankly, I'm a lazy man maybe. I don't want to clean the fish. I'm not good at it. I never liked it.
My dad had a fish descaler. I think when he went to the sporting goods place, they sold one of these things to him. I've never seen one in use and the whole thing just kind of creeped me out. If I ever catch something like camping or something like that, I usually try to convince somebody else to clean it.
Most of the time I just let them go. Where's the resort dock hand? Aren't you supposed to clean these for us and bring them back? You've had that happen for me.
Hey, we cleaned your cat. Here you go. I was just thinking it was my honeymoon and it's Detroit Lakes. We were at the Lake Vermillion.
And it was a Ludlow's resort I think. Anyways, but they had dock boys. And it was an age old tradition. And that's a...
Back when? Yeah, right. Just kidding. Don?
Hey, go. Anyway, so they would clean your fish for you and actually put it in one of those styrofoam trays, rat and cellophane. Almost like you bought it at a big market. Yeah, they would just show up.
In fact, it was an island resort so they would boat over from the main lodge and then come up your dock and here you go, sir. Thanks very much. And that was nice because that was one of the few times I actually caught my limit of large mouth bass. Wow.
And I think people up there didn't save bass as very often. Right. It might be. Where were we looking for Wallace?
Because I gave them the stringer of six bass and they're like, oh, okay, you want all these clean things? Maybe it was the dogfish, too, yet, on the three bull heads. They were noble heads. None of those.
Anyways, so catching them had you caught them. Yes, they were. It was very handy. That was quite a nice service.
Well knowing Andy what we know about the various styles, I mean, like I said, I've seen you play Relaxed Classic Jazz, I've seen you play Cajun Zydeco, I've seen you play Boogie stuff. In fact, we were at your club where you have the residency every third Wednesday of every month. There was quite a legion of dancers out there in front of us. I wanted to watch you all play and I kept getting butt-hocks in my face.
I'm in a chair, but they're cutting a rug and spinning around. There was one gentleman who looked like Dave Lennox from the Furnace Company. He was twirling people. He even caught somebody out of twirl turn who had no idea how to do it.
And he never cracked the green never left his face. Well, this isn't going well, but let's keep going. I love those dancers. They just make it more fun.
Oh, gosh, yeah. Well, I'll tell you, you said that I was a master. I would debate that. I really do brand myself as an amateur and in the sense that part of that word is, I'm a player, a more to love.
I just love playing music. I really not that great at any of it, but I love it. And there's something about it that when I'm playing, I'm just so happy. And people see it on my face.
And I'm not bragging about it. It's just the facts. It's kind of embarrassing sometimes. It's like watching a man have an orgasm.
But when the rhythm is going and you hear the other people play in and you figure out what might sound good with that and they look at you and smile and there's people dancing, I'm in seventh heaven. It's so fun. So I just love playing. I really am an amateur.
And that's how I get to play a lot is because I don't ask for money. The price is right. And I love the way Swamp Pappas do it, where each time one of you is going to take a solo, one of the members of the band, all chime in. Why don't you tell us how we're going to do that Andy?
Yeah. And then the accordion kicks in. You know, Joe, tell us all about it. What are they going to do here?
Then your drummer starts. It's Joe, right? Joe Loma and drums. And Carl Smelker is our leader.
He plays the bass. Max Ray is on tenor saxophone. Ted Helverson plays electric guitar. He kind of specializes in slide guitar.
Jan Stroup is the other guitar player. It's the Swamp Pappas. And I've been with that group for I think about two and a half years now. But they've been together for over ten years.
Yep. The name is a play on the term Swamp Papp, which is a kind of a genre of music of rock and roll, pop and R&B in the Louisiana area, especially in the 60s. The essential ingredient, the Tabasco sauce of the whole thing is the accordion. And so they had an accordion player who unfortunately passed away suddenly.
And then Carl Smelker, the bass player and leader, worked with my brother Paul down at the university and they liked to get together for lunch. Carl was explaining his woes, his lack of accordion player. And my brother Paul said, well, you should talk to my brother Andy. And one thing led to another.
And pretty soon I was playing with these guys. But I felt like I was in over my head because all these guys have been playing for years. When I'm with them, we just talk about bands that they were in, gigs that they did, traveling big time acts that they've played with. So it's kind of, it's really fun to hear their stories.
But I really felt like well and amateur again in a professional band. But one thing about these guys, they've been playing together for a long time. They're older. So there's not like a viciousness or a cutting.
They're just really encouraging and really accepting. And I'd play a lot of clinkers and they'd just say, yeah, it sounds good, you know. A very supportive energy. Very.
It's a fan. Yeah. What is your favorite style? The music that I can play most frequently is when I'm just playing by myself, when I do that I'm playing the piano.
And I usually just play jazz and standards and things like that. And pop tunes, some rock and roll pop tunes, but trying to make them sound good. I just really have fun doing that. And so that's what I play the most.
I guess it would be jazz and pop. When I was a kid, I learned this method of reading music called faking. And it's not a very complimentary term. I have a few copies of the very fake books.
That's right. Yeah. So faking is being able to read the melody. And then you get these corresponding chords that go along with the melody and then you just kind of make up the rest of your faking like you know the tune.
And that's what I do. So I can just usually play through these books. And it doesn't always sound great, but I give a stab at every tune. A lot of times, too, you'll come up with something really intriguing and original.
Yeah. Like, man, I could use this in future. That's Red Flannel Trump, just done a few pieces of that. Oh, yeah.
Oh, they're supposed to be this way, but this happened. And it works. Yeah. So let's see where it goes.
When we play, it's not really, I'm talking now about Swamp Poppers. We play at the schooner Tavern, which is, I'd say it fills all the boxes for a dive bar. But it has a stage and a dance floor and pool tables. Pool tables.
And it has a full clean bathroom. A phone booth. Hey, all right. A dive bar has a bathroom that you want to get out of this.
And that qualifies there. Well, this one's got that sign in it. It says something to the effect of the Riverboat captain wants it understood that something about loose women and card players will be frisked on site. It's really strange.
I mean, it's kind of one of those metallic signs that's theme oriented. You're like, oh, come on. Somebody had fun with this, but it fits. Yeah.
You know, I tried to get out of that bathroom so fast. I don't think I ever finished reading that sign. I suppose it's my scene a little strange. People leave the men's room and just in their glasses.
I was the only one in there. I was like, OK, that's funny. That's funny. What kind of music do you think you would play that they could hear underwater that would attract these?
What's a fitting soundtrack for these fish? A fishing afternoon? What needs to be played? Wow.
That's a tough question. A little existentialist. You know, you use drugs kind of way. Right.
I don't know that. That's a good question. We've never wrote that question before. You fish have ears over the post of that question.
Well, I think you could argue that question. I think if it came down to, well, while I'm fishing with a bunch of guys in a boat, I would put on some kind of yacht rock play role play. I like yacht rock. I'm just saying.
Well, it's ironic you say that because it's fun and I are big. Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. We did a show a few years ago about our top 10 picks for 1976 pop hits because that's what we would hear driving up to various captains. Right. I've got a new delight.
Oh, yeah. Well, I just have my hobby. Moonlight. Moonlight.
That's right. Starbuck. So since you brought it up, do you have a handful of top yacht rock favorites? Well, maybe come back.
Oh, yeah. That's a player. Is that player? You're right.
Well, not even mentioned Orleans. Still the one. Yeah. All of those.
I think my favorite record from that time, I think from 1976, I think it was, was a silk degrees by Bosque. Bosque. Yeah. That was a little more disco than the yacht rock.
But that was the feel. It was kind of swinging, big collar, you know, kind of night life-ish. Does he occasionally get lumped in with like a little kind of Philly blue-eyed soul? Oh, for sure.
On that record, that's what I would think. Cause there's other stuff, as far as I know, is dirty lowdown. Yeah, dirty lowdown and a little shuffle. Yeah.
Yeah. Our offbeat friends, Rich Lele. Truck did a version of a couple versions, I think. Yes.
Of the dirty lowdown. Unreleased at this point, I think. Currently in the can, but on the shelf. So it may have to make a...
Yeah, it might have to be a little bit of a comeback. Yeah, there's always that. Come back. Come back.
Come back. Uh, Steely Dan's Asia album, kind of mine. Well, I'll tell you, um, whenever we would get a car by a new car, or no, I'll use one, you'd get satellite radio for what, six months? And I'd always have the Yacht Rock station.
It moves around on satellite radio, different numbers, but I'd always lock into that one. And it seemed like they would have the same, you know, 25 tunes on their body. It's just easy on your mind and it just makes it think of good old days. Well, nothing, yeah.
I think it tracks a wal-eyed pike or an old... Like Pablo Cruz. Like Pablo Cruz. Just gonna say Pablo Cruz.
Yeah. Or Sergio Mendez in Brazil, 66. Yeah. Who's Brazil 66?
Who cares? Doesn't matter. You don't even know that. I don't think either of them had a solo career.
Probably not. Well, who was the guy who used the seals and crops? Dash? Was it seals or crops?
I don't know. Fuck, you knew this. Seals and crops. I forgot it.
It's been two months since that episode. Yeah. Weren't they the ones who did summer breeds? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it makes me feel fine. Yeah, I love that too. Dash crops. Dash crops.
Yeah. Darryl George Dash Crops. Oh, no, we know. Eugene Seals.
So, the duo disbanded in 1980 reunited briefly in 1992. And then again, in 2004, when they released their final album, Trace's Seals and his younger brother, the charting singer-songwriter, England Dan Seals. What? Oh my gosh.
See, this is first performed publicly as Seals and Seals. I can't believe that. England Dan of John Ford Collepe was a brother of Seals and Crops. And Jim Seals did in fact pass at the age of 80.
Wow. It was just cool. They've been around. Darryl Dash Crops was best known for his hits such as Summer Breeze Diamond Girl.
Darling, if you want me to be closer to you. Yeah, that was a big and I remember. You get closer to Chi. Very.
Understated. Darry and... Wow. Yeah.
England Dan. I feel like England Dan and John Ford Colle were really like to see it. I'm not talking about that. That's right.
Yeah. There's a warm breeze blowing the stars around. And I'd really like to see you tonight. Yeah.
See, I like that a lot better than Starbuck who were going to Chesapeake Bay. That's right. Chesapeake Bay. Yeah.
Oh, they all were pork pints. What's that line? I'm not talking about... I'm talking about moving in.
Because I thought it was the living. Yeah, I... Like who's the living? Yeah, that's the guy on the couch with the can of beans on his face.
Okay, so I'm not the only one. Yeah, I looked it up a while ago. I'm talking about moving in. I don't want to change your mind.
I don't want to change your mind. Yeah. There's a warm and roll in the stars around. I'd really like to see you tonight.
I'd really like to see you tonight. That's classical. Yeah. So back in the boat, we'd be doing those and feeling no pain.
We would be fishing. Right. Right. Right.
My philosophy on fishing is this. You have to be good at not catching fish too. Right. Because a lot of times you don't catch them and you just have to be okay with them.
More than a lot of times. Yeah. I'm catching anything. Well, that's my experience.
Yeah. They're not worth the bother now. I just use a jig. I'm jigging.
Yeah. So yeah, more yacht rock, probably two around the fire. You're going to place me out rock around the fire? Yeah, I'd probably do that.
But I guess if it was around the fire then we're trying to do sing along. Okay. So you get the ukulele's out. Sure.
Oh no. Yeah. What do you like for that kind of stuff? Well, whatever people would know.
So then it's going to think what makes them into a lot of family camps in the last couple of decades. Yeah. And there's a lot of ukulele's. And you say ukulele, I kind of immediately get a little nervous twitch.
I've heard a lot of ukulele's. And that's not kind and I apologize. Yeah. Any other players out there, you know.
But, well, you try to find songs that people that are simple, you know, so if other people play with three or four chords, greens, clear water, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe a little bit of Bob Dylan or something like that. I don't know. Beatles, simple, straightforward stuff. Right.
About any administrative general to record the end of the year. I used to completely unknown the daylights out of my son's eye by referring to that song as the wreck of the end of the Simmons. And he was at about age five. That's not right, dad.
That's not what I wanted. Well, it's a wonderful song. Well, it's a tragic song. And that's the kind you don't do around at camera photos.
Plus, I don't think it's like 29 verses, so we can start it around. Sunset, it would be dawned by the time the cook says, fellas, it's too rough to paint. We're going to do two songs tonight. The wreck of the end of this year, all three million bottles of beer on the wall.
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So here's a story about a predicament my wife's godfather, who has long since passed, got himself into a while back. It's a winter story and I know what's summer now, but I wanted to tell the story. See those guys were ice fishermen and they probably used four dozen waxworms per season per bait. But they saw this great feeling in an outdoors magazine for waxworms and bulk, a thousand for ten bucks.
What a steal. They could share them and never worry about running out. Even though it was about 800 more worms than they would actually use. Plus the name of the company was great.
I'm going to say it because it's a great name not because I'm promoting them. JADAs, how it's spelled and Yada bait company. Can you imagine that rolling off the tongues of those two old Polish guys? Anyhow the worms arrived, it was probably December and they decided to keep them at Jerry's house and he would put them in his basement where it was cool because his wife was no way allowing 1000 worms in her refrigerator.
Well, it turns out it wasn't quite cold enough in the basement and someone didn't get to get to live on tight and a few weeks later the worms hatched into mods. Jerry called Arnie and a panic and tells him he better get over there right away and what are we going to do Jerry's basement looked like a scene from Silence of the Lambs at Puffled Hills also with all the moss flying everywhere. Ultimately those two captured most of the mods and then managed to convince Jerry's wife that the bug from something in the root cellar that went bad and we really need to be more careful with that kind of stuff. The lesson here is that no matter how much the spalls with the kids object, all your bait needs to go under a refrigerator.
Wax worms, maggots, leeches, that pheasant you shop and have at that time to clean yet all of it. It's for the best. I grew up as I said earlier before we started. I thought of yourself as well.
I bet in Osakeus you could have tuned in to the Shumleski fun time. Probably. I was called the Shumleski fun time hour. We were cannon tee out of Walker and Brainerd.
It was the one channel you got in the 70s and every Saturday and I forget the time but it was the Shumleski fun time hour and it was Laurie and Shumleski and his band and they played accordion driven polco and it was huge. And I think it continues to be huge. I remember the show pretty well. It's an example of a local TV, you know, a polka show and there are a lot of them in polka country from midwest from one region to another.
I've seen if you go on YouTube you can see local versions from New Wallam which is really the polka capital of Minnesota of the six fat Dutchman at a regular show. He ran that one and they still have on the radio show down there. I can't remember the call letters for the new home based AM station by my friend from high school Tom Wheeler has a show called the dinner bell hour and he has local polka people come and just play live music on it. The Shumleski fun time polka show I remember it being on Saturday evenings and it was kind of in the lineup on one of the independent stations along with He-haw and Lawrence Wild Yeah, without a doubt.
Yeah, yeah, and I liked it. It wasn't really my bag. I mean I wasn't playing a courtie at that time. I was pretty young when I remember that show being on.
But I thought it was fascinating and the common thread for all those was a band having a good time, everybody smiling and then these old couples out in dance where I guess. They come out dancing and their special outfits. It was kind of fun to see it. I remember at the time thinking it was kind of corny but now it just seems fun.
And yet such a regional. I mean there's such a side guys that the right word to use. I mean it was a time and a place. I mean for me Lawrence Wild was my grandparent's house.
Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. For that meant either Kensington or Starbuck or Glenwood but this is what's on and maybe after Lawrence Wild the TV's got to turn off so we get that little white dot disappearing and I have to scream black and white screen and then people are seriously going to start considering bedtime because it's about 7 PM. I have to, you know, like you're a retired farmer.
We got to do it at 4.com. Yeah, yeah, yeah dinner at 4.30 and then we watched Lawrence Wild and I are going to get to start snoring. I mean if you can't have a good time yourself right then and there you watch people having a good time and you feel better. So that was Lawrence Wild was kind of like that and the Shamaleski fun time.
I guess that show went for a long time. It probably just bounced around different local TV stations. I was noticing on the phone I was kind of trying to just generate a question or two line here. There's a new version, younger set of Shamaleski's coming out in there.
At least in the one picture they all looked to be some 30 so I was like wow. Okay. Keeping it alive, keeping it rolling. I think it's super happy music.
I came back after I learned the accordion years later I came back and kind of explored it again and there was some really cool stuff and like the one guy who had a national act and was a big deal was Frankie Ankevik. And I started listening to his stuff from early 50s he was super popular and it really kicked in after World War II, the poker craze. And they had a cool band. It was a string bass and banjo player, piano, two accordions.
And that was called the Cleveland sound. That was Frankie Ankevik was from Cleveland. That was a makeup of the band. It was just popped.
It was really a snappy sounding band. And the Shamaleski fun time, the Shamaleski band they were an example of a Polish poker band. So they're kind of different versions so those would have trumpets and saxophones and stuff. And then the Whoopi Johns was more of a German polka.
Two of us instead of the Shamaleski band the bass would be an electric bass. But Whoopi Johns was always a tuba and they were playing a concertina, not a piano accordion. And then they would have clarinets and it sounded a little more like a marching band. Anyway it's pretty cool.
Well on some old school almost like 1700s style German folk music. Like the clarinets and the tubas. It sounds like a marching band. Kind of stuff.
It's really from a time. There's still pocus shows on cable TV but it was really a time before cable TV when it was things were hyper local or whatever it was. Yeah we got we got chemalesis and we got Lawrence Welk. We got the farm report.
Yes. It went on for half an hour 45 minutes and then we got like the world of Virgil Ward. Oh yeah. It was a fishing show.
Oh Virgil Ward. Yeah. From the lakes of Northern Canada. The Gulf.
Yes. No according in the song but banjo. And I remember the song too because there were lots of commercials from Miller Beer and it was styled on. If it wasn't Floyd Kramer it was taken from the style of Floyd Kramer because when it's time to relax.
Yeah. You get a very Nashville kind of mental seizure. Yeah. Slinky peanut butter.
Oh gosh. Yeah. My uncle should be sitting around watching golf. Yeah.
And I just went somewhere listening to this smoking here. You're reminding me of a commercial for Low and Brown. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
I always thought that was Lou Ross. Yeah it was super laid-back. Yeah. Yeah.
You better be low and poor. Oh that's awesome. Good stuff. What would you say shifting still on the accordion?
What are a couple of pieces that are the most unaccordion like for the song you play? I don't know if I'm asking that. Yeah. I think it's a lot of songs that are like traditional accordion songs like POCA's a lot of French music you know.
Sure. Sure. If you're in a movie in the band... Oh yeah.
So the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. It's called muzette music. Oh I love it.
And then you know there's a lot of folk music that has it but I guess I just like playing tunes that aren't necessarily accordion tunes and figuring how to do it. For me again it's the pleasure of playing it. Yeah. And figuring out the problem of how do you play?
I've got to be me. Yeah. Right. How are you going to do this?
And so that's what I like doing a lot. I'm hoping next time we show up with schooners. You've got a band that does a version of glow, little glow worm. You leading off on a choreo.
I know it can be done. Well, I'll suggest that the boys. We've got our Nils Brothers style. Sure.
Inkspots. Yeah. Have you contributed ideas for the Swamp Hoppers songs? Yes.
I have. Well, I do instrumental one that's a pretty common zydeco tune called Zydeco Boogaloo. And I kind of tell you, getting a tune across in a band. If you've been in a band, it's not like you just say, oh, let's do this tune and everybody gets behind it.
You have to know it really well. You have to kind of figure out who are key players for that. And then you just have to keep pushing it through. So Carl brought a tune that I just love doing now.
He suggested it, but I kind of ran with it and kept pushing to do it. By a guy named Arthur Alexander, he's not super famous, but there's a lot of musicians and bands who have covered his music. He was a singer-songwriter back in the 60s and early 70s. And the tune is, if it's really got to be this way, wonderful tune.
One of the tunes that Beatles did by Arthur Alexander was Anna. Remember that one? From an early Beatles album? I don't remember.
I don't remember. I don't either. Yep. It's worth looking at all of that.
Oh, it's super good. Putting them out there, back when they were playing in Hamburg and early Liverpool days. But Soldier of Love was another Arthur Alexander tune. And where have you been all my life?
Anyway, look them up if you get a chance. I do that one with the Swamp Poppers. But they already had a pretty long list of tunes in their repertoire. So I'm doing the best I can.
Just knowing those. I forgot what the question was. I don't actually call that. The question?
Oh, did flood now? I can't remember either. I don't know. I don't know.
It's grinning, so it doesn't matter. What you came up with is... So fun and interesting. It's like, oh, absolutely.
We'll come back to it. All three of us sitting here. Huge fans of something from back in the late 70s through the 80s. Second city television.
Fishy and audio and bass. Just love it. And a huge part of that show that was so much fun was Gill Hodges, an efficient musician. It's just kind of the...
I don't think anybody's listening to this show more than five times. It's like, well, clearly that's the inspiration for a musician, an angling musician. We just love to have musicians, painters, sculptors, so far as metal musicians. We had a book right here.
We had a book right here. We had a book right here. And the gentleman who wrote the bird book. Yes, Matt.
Yeah. Dom Asperds of North America. Oh, yeah. You got a beautiful stuff.
You've watched it on Stacey. Part of me, parents. I apologize for that. But that's the name of the book.
Matt's a proct. There we go. And great guy. But that was so much fun because Gill Hodges, John Candy, was the kind of red greenish, pre-red greenish.
He hosted it. It was the opening credits. He just showed it obviously, an obvious picture of a Lincoln log. A model from the Scubble Butt-Lion.
Exactly. And then there he is superimposed over pictures of all these rock bands. Holding fish that are superimposed. Yeah.
But it was so much fun. And then every time it was, oh, he had such a good trip. And you caught all those. I just can't eat it.
I just can't eat it. He just did it like that. And there was always the guide on the lake, the William Nelson guide. And William Nelson, oh, he took us right back into the weeds again.
Look at that. I told him we shouldn't go this. Oh, there we go again. It took us about 45 minutes to get out of it.
So you had a lineup of musicians. And I looked it up on the website because I couldn't remember. And I know I didn't see them all. But here are the bands that made Gill Hodges from Scuttle Butt-Lion.
Fish and Musician. Fish and Musician. And of these bands, who would you have loved to have been on the show and fish with as a musician yourself? So we had, this is an excellent question.
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. A lot of thought went into this. So, yeah, I think out of the San Francisco area, I could be around the tubes who brought us many big hits.
And they're kind of a, you know, you might say an 80s yacht rock kind of thing to talk to later. Yeah, sure. They had to come with it. Don't want to wait anymore.
Yeah, their lead man was named Thi Wae-Will. Thi Wae-Will. And I didn't get it. I was just like, that's a hilarious name.
And I realized that's what they call the manifests, the truckers drive a shipment from one place to the other. I didn't know that. Did you pay your fees on the weekend? I had an inkling that it really wasn't his given.
Oh, it doesn't seem like it would have been, right? It seemed sleepy, LeBeef. And like, really your name's sleepy? You know, LeBeef?
Anyway, Wendy O'Williams and the Plasmatics frightening. Oh, yeah. Some would say I found them intriguing in young man, but... If not a little raunchy, we'd watch it without a doubt.
I mean, it was over the top for the sake of being over the top. I'm sawing a television in half and firing a machine gun full of blanks into a Cadillac. Yeah, you know, this kind of stuff. And she went fishing.
And she went fishing. It's gonna say... An ivory horn strapped to her forehead. Wow.
Reggae giants. I saw these guys at, I think it's Armadillo days. Music festival in the shores of Lake Michigan. Okay.
In the spring. And third world was there. Third world. And great, great, great reggae band.
And anyway, so the reggae side going fishing with... And if they are true rastafarians, they probably wouldn't eat the fish either, right? I mean, most rastas tend to be vegetarian. All the more for us.