EPISODE · Nov 24, 2025 · 55 MIN
Ep 8: What Fashion Gets Wrong… and How to Fix It - Inclusive Sizing, Colour and Joy with Sara Brown
from The Body Talks with Chloé Dall'Olio · host Chloé Dall'Olio
In this episode of The Body Talks I sit down with designer, consultant and plus size fashion advocate Sara Brown to explore the reality of inclusive sizing today and how the industry can finally do better.We begin with a grounding breath and a gentle body check in, then move into a conversation about clothes, queerness, softness and the joy of expressing yourself in a world that still tries to shrink certain bodies into silence.Sara shares her journey from being a size 16 teenager unable to buy anything in high street shops, to designing for major brands, to consulting for companies who genuinely want to expand their size ranges in a thoughtful way.Together we look at the current landscape of plus size fashionwhy representation on runways is going backwards (with a nod to Including The Curve and Felicity Hayward’s vital trend reports)why beloved inclusive brands are closingwhere companies are still missing the markand the designers and labels who are leading the way, including Lucy & Yak, Sinéad O’Dwyer, If Only If and Unhidden: powerful examples of what it looks like when inclusivity and accessibility are built into the design process rather than added on afterwardsSara speaks honestly about what inclusive design really requires: proper grading, fit testing on real bodies, colour without shame, and clothing that is not simply scaled up but intentionally created with bigger bodies in mind.We also talk about• internalised fatphobia and the part of you that still knows you are valuable• how colour becomes a quiet act of activism for bigger bodies• late queerness, silly joy and finding your people• why plus size customers are some of the most loyal when they feel seen• Sara's work with Lucy & Yak, If Only If and more• fashion, identity and the power of being softWe close with a final breathing practice and an invitation from Sara’s body to soften.Connect with Sara:Website: sarabrowndesign.comInstagram: instagram.com/sarabrowndesignDM or email her directly through her contact pageConnect with your host Chloé:Instagram: @chloedallolioPodcast platform for previews and behind the scenes: @thebodytalks.love
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