Ep 865 – The Birth of the Spiritual Heretic P1: Why Heresy?

Glenn Ostlund's Psychology Today ProfileIn this episode of “Infants on Thrones,” hosts Josh and Glenn dive deep into the essence of heresy as a vital and healthy force within both the human body and society. Drawing metaphors from biology, they discuss how T cells and osteoblasts function to maintain health by addressing aberrant cells and weak bone tissue, respectively. In parallel, they explore how heretical thinking serves to critique and challenge rigid ideologies, promoting growth and resilience. Josh and Glenn emphasize the importance of questioning protected ideas and the social structures that guard them. They delve into the complexities of heresy, contrasting it with the often defensive and aggressive reactions from those who benefit from unchallenged ideologies. They navigate the fine line between personal self-improvement and the critique of external systems, advocating for a balance that fosters both individual and collective well-being. The episode also touches on the role of resistance in therapy and societal discourse. Josh, drawing from his experience as a Gestalt therapist, explains how resistance can indicate underlying needs and reactions, both in therapeutic settings and broader social interactions. This conversation highlights the challenges of engaging with deeply entrenched beliefs and the courage required to question them. As they prepare to tackle taboo topics in future episodes, Josh and Glenn consider the format of their podcast, pondering the possibility of engaging with listeners’ experiences and exploring controversial subjects. The discussion sets the stage for a series that promises to be thought-provoking, challenging, and unapologetically heretical. Join Josh and Glenn as they embark on a journey to uncover hidden truths, dismantle ideological barriers, and promote a healthier, more open-minded society. Whether you’re a fellow heretic or a curious listener, this episode invites you to question, critique, and grow.