EPISODE · May 16, 2026 · 44 MIN
Ep. 87: Telling Isn't Teaching
from State of Ed Podcast · host Dr. Marc Isseks & Dr. Nick Simone
Marc and Nick, joined by guest co-host Kate Crimmins, high school English chairperson, sit down with Kristina Smekens, president and lead consultant at Smekens Education and one of the most in-demand literacy consultants in the country. Kristina has spent the better part of two decades helping K-12 teachers master reading and writing instruction, and this conversation zeroes in on a distinction that changes everything: the difference between modeling what to do and the think-aloud that makes invisible thinking visible. Kristina walks through the free throw analogy that stopped a room full of new teachers cold, explains why students can repeat every step of a skill and still fail the moment the context shifts, and unpacks what gradual release actually looks like when it is done with intention. The conversation also covers the planning that makes a 15-minute mini lesson look effortless, and why slowing down in September almost always produces faster, more independent learners by spring. If you have ever shown students exactly what to do and then watched them not be able to do it, this one is for you. GUEST LINKS smekenseducation.com @SmekensEd on X (Twitter) Kristina Smekens on LinkedIn Kristina Smekens on Amazon Launching the Writer's Workshop (Grades 3-12) Follow Marc: marcisseks.com @marcisseks on X (Twitter) @marcisseks on LinkedIn @edupyro on TikTok @edupyro on YouTube CAPTIVATE on Amazon Find State of Ed: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music stateofedpodcast.com
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Marc and Nick, joined by guest co-host Kate Crimmins, high school English chairperson, sit down with Kristina Smekens, president and lead consultant at Smekens Education and one of the most in-demand literacy consultants in the country. Kristina has spent the better part of two decades helping K-12 teachers master reading and writing instruction, and this conversation zeroes in on a distinction that changes everything: the difference between modeling what to do and the think-aloud that makes invisible thinking visible. Kristina walks through the free throw analogy that stopped a room full of new teachers cold, explains why students can repeat every step of a skill and still fail the moment the context shifts, and unpacks what gradual release actually looks like when it is done with intention. The conversation also covers the planning that makes a 15-minute mini lesson look effortless, and why slowing down in September almost always produces faster, more independent learners by spring. If you have ever shown students exactly what to do and then watched them not be able to do it, this one is for you. GUEST LINKS smekenseducation.com @SmekensEd on X (Twitter) Kristina Smekens on LinkedIn Kristina Smekens on Amazon Launching the Writer's Workshop (Grades 3-12) Follow Marc: marcisseks.com @marcisseks on X (Twitter) @marcisseks on LinkedIn @edupyro on TikTok @edupyro on YouTube CAPTIVATE on Amazon Find State of Ed: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music stateofedpodcast.com
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