EP015 上集 95后Ai创业者:科技挟持下,Ai心理搭子如何读懂你的情绪黑洞? episode artwork

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EP015 上集 95后Ai创业者:科技挟持下,Ai心理搭子如何读懂你的情绪黑洞?

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欢迎打开这期「想搞钱但不会敲代码」的AI发电站播客!——【AI搞钱调查局】「颜值即正义」的 AI 心理应用长啥样?创始人marvin与chloe透露,Nephola的名字源于小程序里的云朵图素(词缀 “life” 意为云),但用户更爱叫它 “nana”—— 毕竟里面的智能体们全是 “MOMO、BOBO、LOLO” 这样的叠音萌系人设!不过最绝的是 UI 设计,连主播佩奇都在小红书刷到后 “一见钟情”,直呼 “治愈到想住进去”。当心理学学霸遇上 “非典型” 创业者:联创marvin自爆曾靠读心理书 “自救”,而chloe顶着 7 年心理学 + 传播学双学位,却拉着商科背景的marvin跨界搞 AI—— 理由是 “年轻人需要‘轻量级’树洞”。更魔幻的是,联创团队没人是程序员,却靠 “大六人格框架” 生成了 4 个画风清奇的智能体:BOBO:高冷到被用户投诉 “你不开心关我屁事”,却意外成了 “酷盖” 风向标;LOLO:被夸 “圣母但不讨厌”,专给 emo 党灌 “温柔毒鸡汤”;DODO:职场花孔雀人设,实则内心戏超多;MOMO:叽叽喳喳小太阳,却被用户发现 “偶尔丧到离谱”。科技挟持症“微信必须秒回?AI 教我‘关机两小时试试’”更离谱的是,有用户靠和 AI 聊 “裸男时钟游戏” 解压,创始人当场傻眼:“我们做的是心理应用啊!”行动指南微信搜索「Nephola」小程序,试试和智能体吵架(划掉)聊天玩"云走走"前准备好零食——可能会莫名其妙走神半小时如果你是投资人…建议直接拉到46:30听盈利模式彩蛋主播金句:“搭子文化就是:攀岩时你拉绳子我放心,但借钱免谈”“当 AI 说‘多去大自然走走’时,不是敷衍你,是心理学里‘森田疗法’的轻量化表达”“每一代都有每一代的惨,但 Z 世代惨在科技发展比脱发还快”点击收听:AI 搞钱调查局特别篇:当 Z 世代的情绪树洞遇上会毒舌的 AI 智能体会怎样?【嘉宾介绍】【主播介绍】【戳时间点,听你想听的】01:10 AI心理小程序为什么那么吸引人“Nephola”的颜值吸引力创始人marvin与chloe刚登场就被夸 “UI 设计治愈到刷小红书秒关注”,还爆用户常问 “安卓 / 苹果版在哪”,我们的产品只有微信小程序。03:40 “Nephola名字的玄学来源 vs 心理学学霸的跨界创业名字竟来自小程序里的 “云朵图素”(life = 云),用户却自发叫它 “NANA”;心理学 7 年 + 传播学学霸chloe,拉着商科背景的marvin搞 AI,年轻人需要轻树洞”。09:36 Z 世代用户画像大揭秘:从 “22-36 岁女性” 还包括男性呦!后台数据显示真实用户集中在 20-29 岁,马文补刀:“Z 世代惨啊,上学卷到工作,还被科技绑架”。14:30 用户奇葩心理问题实录:从 “狂买电子产品” 到 “被科技逼疯”主播朋友靠花钱解压,团队做了 “防自杀” 和 “早期抑郁” 预警,但强调 “不诊断,只当树洞”。20:59 智能体人设翻车现场:高冷波波被投诉 “你不开心关我屁事”4 个智能体靠 “大六人格” 生成:BOBO高冷到被用户骂,LULU被夸 “圣母但不讨厌”,DODO是职场花孔雀。用户说能不能投诉BOBO。27:03 Z 世代迷惑行为大赏:攀岩找搭子可以,借钱免谈marvin解读 “搭子文化”:攀岩搭子只负责拉绳,AI 搭子只负责听骂老板,主播神总结:“这哪是社交,分明是‘精准逃避深度关系’”。34:44 心理学教授的毒舌金句:“别把鸡蛋放一个篮子里,包括别放 AI 身上”chloe曝哈佛教授名言 “别把生活重心放别人身上”,延伸到 AI 陪伴:“可以当电子榨菜,但别指望治大病”,小鹿哥补刀:“适合恋爱脑急救”。48:50 小鹿哥灵魂拷问:你们靠啥赚钱?创始人沉默了……说下期见被问 “用户多少?付费率多少?”,chloe支支吾吾:“盈利模式,要等下期在和你们说啦”。【互动话题】参与本次小程序来说说你喜欢哪个智能体BOBO:喜不喜欢我无所谓;LOLO:喜欢哪个我都会喜欢你的啦;DODO:(全是内心戏);MOMO:“家人们谁懂啊!刚才跟同事们唠嗑,直接给我笑到打鸣!跟你们说哦,我上周熬夜改方案到秃头,跟MOMO吐槽‘老板是不是属章鱼的啊,(出手)触手就这么多要求’,它唰唰回我‘宝子快给老板点杯奶茶,糖精加满让他甜到闭嘴~顺便咱自己点份炸鸡报复性进食!’(拍桌狂笑)这小嘴跟抹了蜜似的,比我闺蜜还会哄人!”。【加入听众群:请添加微信】【你听到的音乐来自】搞钱 — 汪大东在小宇宙查看该单集文稿

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