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What's going on everybody? This is Tony from the Redbeard Podcast and guys it is Monday and if you got a case of the Mondays, this is the perfect place to be. It is the Redbeard Podcast. We got a bunch of cool stuff going on in the news for you.
And then finally, his 36 year old business partner is in some trouble. He filed a restraining order against him. We're going to talk about exactly what's going on with that. Also, Marvel's Cloak and Dagger was released on Hulu and Freeform on June 7.
A lot of cool stuff about that. The reviews are in there. Good. And I know Cooley's got some stuff to talk about.
You're going to hear his review. And also, if you guys are familiar with Tommy Wiseau, the guy who was famous for the best worst movie in the world, the room. Also, James Franco did some stuff about him in the disaster artist if you haven't checked that out. But he actually auditioned for the Joker.
And you guys can see that everywhere on the internet. We're going to talk about our thoughts on that. So with that being said, in the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger, sneak around. Ready, Podcasts, brought you by these cool dudes.
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So I got Ren. What's up, Ren? What's up, Ren? I don't know.
Cool. What's up? What's up? And Jim, what's going on?
Hi everybody. Hey, Ren, why don't you pull your bandana off your mouth? You look like a member of Hollywood on bed. You like that?
Oh, I don't want to be related to them at all. She pulled the member of the Orty Rob the Bank and got what she needed. She looks like a member of Tom Clancy's The Division. She looks like she could be a sick addition to Young Guns II with Emilio Estebes.
I fuck with Emilio Estebes. He's a fucking baller. Brother Charlie Sheen, different name. Me and Livin.
Just saying. I'm playing with him. Oh, yeah, right? And also a really good director.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. Anyway, enough about Emilio Estebes. So guys, some crazy shit going on in the news with Stan Lee right now. Oh, no.
Yeah. It's not good. I mean, Stan Lee is good, but he's fine. Let's talk about this for a second.
My grandmother just turned 90, which is a testament itself. Stan Lee is 95. That's crazy. He's old.
It's dirt. That gives you hope that there's more time. Seriously, man. My grandmother.
My sister took a picture of my grandmother today at a restaurant. I don't know which restaurant it was. Haven't Margarita. 90 years old.
Shout out to my grandmother, Waller. Right? And I don't know what that means. Oh, that was my phone.
Great job. Yeah, it's good. Good times. But anyway, so no, but for real though, 95 years old and unfortunately, his 36 year old business manager, what's his name guys?
Kia Morgan. Kia Morgan. Stan Lee filed a restraining order against him from preventing him from seeing his family and friends and other things because he, the theories are that he wants to get a hold of Stan Lee as a state, which is worth, and whatever else he's worth, $50 million, which is really messed up. He's been taking advantage of his poor conditions, his loss of hearing, loss of sight, and his memory issues and stuff like that, and taking advantage of that to kind of guide him and steer him to give him control over his estate.
Actually, I feel like you said something like that. Stan, let's just be real and acknowledge the fact that Stan Lee is not the only elderly person that's going through something like this. Any elderly person, anybody who's losing their mental faculties due to just age, is in danger of this type of abuse. Stan, I saw him at Hasbro and...
You met him. Yeah, I actually did meet him too. But I saw him at Hasbro recently as when I met him it was a while ago, but I saw him at Hasbro recently about a year ago and he didn't look terrible. He didn't seem too far out of it, and he was very jovial and told his story as well.
So I don't think he's that far gone, but I do think that it is easier to take advantage of somebody who is starting to slow down. I mean, when you start getting older, you start to slow down. And he is losing his eyesight to the point where he literally has to have somebody help him sign autographs. Like, this is where you're going to sign Stan, and they guide him, they put the pen down, and then he signs.
And it's just sad that somebody would do that. This guy is worth $50 million, according to this report. He doesn't have to actually go out and do this stuff anymore, but the fact that he does means that he really appreciates his fans, and he actually loves what he does. You know what I mean?
This guy can be cashing on at $50 million, going on vacation every week, seeing the world, and probably sure he has already. But I mean, he's going out of his way to still show appreciation to his fans, and I really respect that. I do. I mean, can we honestly all sit here and say that this is probably the second golden age of Marvel?
Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's a good point. I mean, I mean, I think we each have reached an entirely new fan base, and because of that, I think there's a bit of a resurgence of Marvel. Right.
And he's already filmed, I think, like there's been 10 cameos that haven't been released by Marvel, where he's already in the movies that we don't even know about yet. He looks great for his age. Can we say that? He does.
I would never expect him to be. I could say if I saw him, like the way I see him in movies, I would say mid-70s. That's just me, or maybe late 70s, but I mean, he doesn't look like 95 to me. No.
So good for him. He's mummified. Right. Definitely.
Yeah. I mean, like I said, like, when we were on break before recording, this dude is like, I look at him as a family member. I look at him as somebody who I would welcome as a grandparent. You know what I mean?
I see him as somebody like that. Like, a lot of who I am is based on characters that he created. And it's just, you know, it's sad to see somebody taking advantage of them like that. And I'm just glad that they finally got a handle on it.
The only thing that's bothering me is that it's a temporary restraining order. They are still waiting for the permanent restraining order to be signed off on. Why wouldn't there be a permanent already for someone like this? That's what I'm saying.
That's why I'm just... That's a lot to have a permanent restraining order. They have a business relationship, so I'm sure there's stipulations that have to go into effect as far as... You're like, proof of like physical abuse or like wandering or stealing money basically?
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. And they have to decide like, is this guy going to have to split operations? Or are they going to have to like... Hire somebody new?
Yeah. But you know, thank goodness for Tom Lallis who is his attorney, you know, for going ahead and filing that, you know, on his behalf, and trying to get this done for him. He's been very outspoken about what's been going on and, you know, really trying to get everything, you know, taken care of for him and really being there for him. It's just, it's great.
I mean, like, there was a point just before this whole thing went down where he got the restraining order where, you know, it almost seemed like Keyham Morgan was holding a hostage. And almost, it looked like he was being forced to read a script on a video that they posted on Twitter, which was... I saw that. Yeah, which was basically just saying like, you know, hey, Keyham Morgan is the only person that has, you know, soul control over everything.
And, you know, he's the only person that I'm working with and he's the only person that represents me. And like, you could almost tell that it wasn't really his words. It was somebody else guiding him to say that. And then Key, like, Roblaudia on his own Twitter, I'm like, that's crazy people stuff.
Yeah, especially, especially when in that video he's saying, and nobody is forcing me to say this. You know what I mean? It's like, that is just clearly somebody forcing him to say it. So I, it's been bothering me for a very long time that this has been going on and I am very relieved to see that some action is being taken since I am completely helpless to do anything about the issue.
Well, you actually... I'm sorry, I didn't know you said that. No, it's okay. I was all I was going to say is if there's anything to be taken out of this, if you're eligible for AARP, you should be wary of men who share the same name as an arctic sled dog.
Or a car brand. Oh, man. I mean, I think the fact that Stanley has actually gone public with this is good because now people are more aware of it. Yeah, at least his lawyer went public with it.
Exactly. We love you, Stanley. Definitely. Yeah, and for sure, we want to thank Lallis, Tom Lallis.
Is that his lawyer? That's his lawyer. The one that actually is getting him out of the trouble. I mean, there are a lot of women and men out there that are in those situations and they don't have people that will stake up for him.
Stanley's a very lucky man to have someone like Tom. Absolutely. Lallis. Not lawless.
Right, Lallis. Definitely. Good call out. That's a really cool thing happened.
Cloak and Dagger by Marvel. Look, that's one cool. This is cool, man. It was a cool thing happened in light of the bad thing that's been happening.
Yeah, exactly. So Marvel's Cloak and Dagger actually came out on June 7th with Hulu in Freeform. We definitely posted some stuff on the Red Bear podcast Instagram about it. Cooley, you were like immediately a big fan of this.
I don't think I've ever seen somebody jump on a show and post about it so fast. You really seem to love the show, man. Just like what's stuck out to you? What did you love about it?
What was awesome, man? Dude, the show is just fucking great. I think it's the performances. It's the ambiance of the show, the way that it's put together, the filming.
Everything about this show is better than I imagined it could be. Can I just tell you that for Cooley to come out and actually say that the writing is good is a testament to the show? Because he is the first person in the world to tell you that it was lazy writing. And obviously this is not the case.
So, you know, I would definitely take that to the bank, man. So what exactly about the writing stuck out to you? Just the fact that it touches on social issues that we're having today with the show. It's definitely in your face, but it doesn't feel fake.
It doesn't feel forced. It feels organic. Exactly. It's like it takes a head on.
I mean, Aubrey Joseph is the kid that plays Tyron Johnson. And I don't think they could have found a better actor. This kid is amazing. He is the perfect combination of awkward and cool.
It's like he seems just like a real person. You know what I mean? It's just really cool. His reaction to things.
The way that he plays off other characters, he just seems like somebody who would be a good friend to have. And Olivia Holt, who plays Dagger or Tandy Bowen, is a really good at her role too. So Tyron Johnson, this is something that Ren had pointed out at one point when we were talking about it, is that their roles are kind of reversed from what you would expect of the stereotype for people. So if you look at, if you see it and you see a white girl and a black kid, the stereotype would be the black kids having problems.
He comes from a poor family or a broken home and they're struggling and he's a thug or whatever. The girl would be like an upper class family. Yeah. And save the last dance.
That was just a tough one. It's only like a white girl who's like, I'm in a rebellious phase. I'm going to date the kid from the bad side of town. She does ballet.
She loves hip-hop. But the funny thing is that she does ballet. Does she really? Yeah.
So Tandy Bowen is a ballerina. Her family was well off at one point. And because of Hurricane Katrina, her father died. In Hurricane Katrina?
In Hurricane Katrina. And her mom just lost it and was like, she was a pain pill junkie. And just kind of lost everything. And now they're living in an apartment and getting by day by day.
The mother keeps losing jobs and doesn't really do what she's supposed to do to raise a child. As a little girl, she grew up watching her mother in these situations. So she is now a pill junkie. Oh my god.
She's out there doing all kinds of crazy shit like stealing from people and just trying to get by that way and stealing money and collecting shit that way to get out and get her own life. And it's just, it's a really cool dynamic to see that be the case. And then Tyrone comes from a very well-off family. The mom's got everything put together.
But she's struggling with the demons of losing her first son to a cop shooting. Oh no. So a police officer killed her son and they covered it up. And Tyrone witnessed it.
So that's kind of like his little inner struggle. And just the way that they deal with it. That's great. Not what actually happened.
Right. But just for a psychological standpoint, like how a character is made up that is a great thing that they can tell. That is a great thing that they can tell them to later. Right.
And it's just, they did it all in a way that the cinematic approach was very well done. The color palette, the, like everything was just great man. Awesome. One of the things I think is really cool is that there's an article that was posted by Variety that really kind of points out some cool aspects of the show or just some differences.
And I quote, Colton Dagger can be as blunt as a punch to the face when it hammers home the difference between Tandy and Tyrone's lives. A few scenes, especially in the pilot are so paint by numbers that you can see where they're going the second they start. Still blunt is exactly in line with what superhero origin stories tend to be. And Colton Dagger, nonetheless, there's a few things that set itself apart from the dozens we've seen before.
Yeah. Which I think is awesome. But everything that I mentioned, I just spoke for like what seven minutes probably and I didn't once mention superpowers. Yeah.
That's what that's the cool thing about the show. And I love this from an actor standpoint. Olivia Holt, she's another Disney girl that's coming up through the system. But, and you'll love this Tony.
Aubrey Joseph, who plays Cloke, is a Broadway actor. He has a pound off the Broadway. He was. That makes perfect sense because he was so good.
Well, he's got like a theatrical background. I watched like an episode of it. It was you could tell just his like presence on film. Oh, so you saw some of it?
The first episode. Yeah. I didn't watch it. He was good, man.
Like I'm saying, like you know from the first I'd say like couple minutes in that he has a theatrical presence. Yeah, he stole it from me. He stole the show. Like there's a, so the only other person, the only other person that I know that has a theatrical presence on and I'm glad that you confirmed that because there's no problem Jim.
Not a problem. There is a, there's only one other person and it's weird because I was wrong about this. But anybody who has watched Breaking Bad, the guy who played Gus, for me, looks, seems like a guy who's like, for me looks, seems and acts like you have a theatrical background. But when I met him at Walker's soccer, I asked him if he actually had any theater experience, none whatsoever.
Just eloquent AF. Thank you. And that's the best way I can say it. Like literally, he's still good on film.
This kid though, I got the same impression, but does have a theatrical background, which is really awesome. You know what I mean? You see me kind of get that classic training. I just like, I love how quiet he is and reserved and he only speaks when he has something to say really and it's just, it's a refreshing role for a young black actor to be out there and just be just a positive young teen trying to make his way.
And say like, close to the comics or is it, like, they're off in anyway? It's close enough to the comics. It is not jumping feet first into the hole. We have powers and we're going to use them for good thing.
They are just discovering that they have the powers. They haven't used them for anything. Everything has been accidental. You know, he's teleported accidentally a few times.
One time he ends up on the roof of Roxanne, you know, after falling asleep. One time he ends up in a trunk of a cop car. So it, and she, and she can create these light daggers out of her hands. And that's all accidental and like on almost on cue with like her emotional outbursts.
There was one scene where she was about to be raped, which was also very, it was very graphic. But that's social man. Like that's social man. Yeah, it is.
No, it is social man. No, no, no, that's not God. Do we make it awkward? That's a social issue that like, I like to take like brought that real.
Like that's like that needs to be addressed. I'm serious. It's not like a heavy AF show. And then they're like, oh, superpowers are also involved.
But it's a real life situation that some people can relate to. But in the process of, but in the process of that happening she forms her. That's the first time that she actually forms one of these blades of light and actually stabs this like when she's in the gut and leaves him for dead, which is just, it was just a cool moment. You want to put something to me?
I'll put something to you. That's exactly what it felt like. It was really cool. And when it happened, she screamed no.
Like she was like, no. And like, then you see this kid just like, what the hell just happened? Right. One of the things I've heard is that they compared this to like being a spin off, but like it jumps right on the back of like what runaway started off with like runaway is kind of established like these like teens kind of in distress and like cloak and dagger kind of jumped on that and just keeping that train going.
Well, the coolest thing about this show is that they're runaways. Right. So eventually that's what's going to happen. They're going to run away together.
And that does happen. Like that's when the adventure picks up. Do you think there would be any type of crossover between those two worlds? Somebody mentioned that on Twitter and I wanted to respond with an emphatic hell no.
No, I don't. I don't want that to happen just because runaways is such a different show. Yeah. And while I liked it, this show is a far superior beast.
And I wouldn't want that chocolate and peanut butter mixed together. It also sounds like it's got more of a sense of realism. Like it's like real issues going on. I mean, besides the superpowers, but like the runaways is like, here's a dinosaur and also an alien controls everything.
It's a lot. I mean, it did deal with some real teen issues, but for sure. Like finding out your parents are shitty. Not who you thought they were is a big issue.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the other auditions that we was not an audition that we were just talking about, but whatever. Something we mentioned. I was trying to find a segue and I totally fucked it up. Whatever.
So, but the other thing that I thought was really funny that I just saw a couple of days ago was how many people here have seen the room I have in Jim has. I totally have. So Colleen, I are the only people that haven't seen. Have a half a glass of vodka mixed with half a glass of scotch.
That's an inside joke. So I haven't seen the actual room yet, but I have seen the disaster artists with James Franco and Tommy Wiseau, the guy who was directed and was in the room and whatever. He's just a mess. He bankrolled it.
Yeah. Produced it. Yeah. That's a weird accident.
He's from New Orleans. People think he has connections with a bunch of halleys. Yeah. This guy is super weird.
But basically there was an audition that posted online when it was when information was released that Joaquin Phoenix was going to be playing the Joker in an origin story, which you've already talked about. And Tommy Wiseau released an audition tape where he actually played the Joker. But I guess, Ren, you actually shed some light on this. This wasn't a real audition tape.
No. So what happened? It was Nerdist produced, right? Yeah.
What happened was, they're super funny. I mean, you should just be what's the same Chris Hardwick being the Nerdist and now it's just spiraled into a big thing. But what would be super funny? It's a put Tommy Wiseau in that position.
And I saw this video a while ago because I'm into all things Tommy Wiseau. I think he's a secret genius. Oh, yeah. He's like Andy Kaufman.
Yeah. Sure. I love him so much. So I saw the video.
I laughed. I knew instantly like this isn't real. Yeah. Yeah.
It was weird because I saw it just, I forgot how I found out about it, but somebody had sent it to me and I was like, what? And I watched it and I thought it was a real audition video. And I think that's what made it great for me is that he was holding like a microphone and in a real audition, you're not holding a microphone. Right.
But at the same time I was like, it's Tommy Wiseau. He brings us on to it. Can I hold this microphone while I do the makeup job on him? Yeah.
Like he did, it was like him at first just like slating high on Tommy Wiseau. Like I'm gonna be doing the Joker, which you don't do. And then he just, it was him instantly and make up going, ah, which was weird. Like the Joker.
Put a smile on this face. Yeah. Oh, so good. Well, he was basically, the funny thing is that like it wasn't his, it was his take on the Joker, but it wasn't anything original.
It was Tommy Wiseau and he fledged her makeup doing lines at the Joker set in previous movies. That's all it was. Yeah. It was a combination of Nicholson and Ledger.
But the funny thing about this audition and Cooley, you saw exactly what I was talking about. Yeah. If you get rid of the accent, it actually was it was his, his Joker cadence could actually pass because he came off as psychotic, you know, like there were certain moments that were so dumb and made you laugh because you know it's him. But if I had never heard of Tommy Wiseau and I saw this audition, I'd be like, who is this guy?
He needs to play the Joker. No, like it is perfect. Like that is exactly what I would have thought. But we know who Tommy Wiseau is and I feel like I like his screaming, but that's accidental.
Like that is just Tommy Wiseau. I think we realize by now that he is not an actor and that he lives off of the fact that he's so bad that people find it watchable. No, this is someone in the Nerdist camp that said, man, it would be fucking hilarious if Tommy Wiseau was the Joker. Oh, yeah.
It's all a big joke. Yeah. And they said, and all of the people in the room said, holy shit, that is perfect. But let me, and then they made it happen.
But let me ask you this. If you guys seriously, if you did not know who Tommy Wiseau was, and this guy actually posted on the edition tape and on the internet, I mean, like I'm saying, it's a whatever. It was pushed and like it got to the point where a lot of people were watching it. Do you think that this guy has a shot at playing the Joker?
Absolutely not. No, actually, hold on. I'm like Saturday night live, maybe. Wait a minute.
No, no, no, no, no. I take it back after all of the shit that I've watched from the DC Extended Universe, he does have a shot. He's got a, he's absolutely got a shot in Poland, maybe. No, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that people will like it. I'm saying that Warner Brothers would absolutely give him a shot. I feel like if you got rid of the accent, have you watched Justice League? Have you watched Batman v Superman?
Have you watched Superman Man of Steel? Have you watched like any of the DC EU movies besides Wonder Woman? Like the one good movie? Suicide Squad.
Yeah, they're all garbage films, but they're- Yo, Tommy Wiseau's got a shot. He's got a shot, absolutely. You think he, you think he actually, ah man, I don't know. I think that- But again, but Jared Lettl versus Tommy Wiseau, Ren, what's up?
Aesthetically, Tommy Wiseau. No, just, just, no, I mean, just in general, as far as like more believable Joker. Oh, yeah. Tommy Wiseau.
Really? Even with a Russian accent? Yeah. He doesn't know Russian accent.
He's from somewhere in Poland is what they have discerned. It's, okay, it's a whatever accent. Yeah, and European accent. Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah, because, like, yeah, obviously Jared Lettl got the job. But if you're looking, like, aesthetically, if you're looking for portrayal of a character, like terrible costuming aside, Jared Lettl is a tri-hard in this film. Like, you saw interviews with him where he's like, yeah, I got so into the character, I lost myself.
He's trying to live up to a Heath Ledger, like, actual, sick, mentally person, and Tommy Wiseau is just naturally fucked. So your blueprint is already better off with Tommy Wiseau. Jared Lettl is like the cool kid in high school who's really trying to hold it together, even though his dad beats his mom, and he's like, I can still play football. You know what's funny?
He's that kid. It's funny you said that, but I think because a lot of things actually kind of ring true for me in this, I feel like Jared Lettl, right? Like, they know that he's going to be mad at it, but when it comes to script, he's going to stick to it. Tommy Wiseau, you're like, here's the script, and they're like, whatever happens happens.
Yeah. You know, and I think that's what kind of makes his performance a little bit more organic is that like, you have no idea what your getting. He's not going to be an intelligent Joker, but he's going to be like, yeah. It's going to be different than what you thought it was going to be.
Yeah. Yeah. So, and you guys, I think you say Jim. I lost track.
I had something lined up with Tommy Wiseau, Joker, as we were talking about. It's weird. We're pulling out. All right.
So, yeah, well, yeah, I don't know. Go ahead, man. We'll be back Friday. We'll be back Friday.
And you're going to edit this out. You can't just edit it. You can't just end it with, hey, Jim, do you have any thoughts? No, if you're going.
All right, Redbeard podcast. That's exactly how every episode is going to end. This is actually this whole conversation is now going to be the ending. Absolutely.
Oh, man. Anyway, Jim's wearing a porn star hat. That is the end of this Monday's episode of the Redbeard podcast later. Bye.
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