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So listen, the Black Widow movies coming out, what do we think about it? Are we psyched about it? What are we expecting from this movie? I mean, I'm expecting to see Scarlett Johansson, but other than that, I mean, what else are we looking for?
Also, the Blumhouse Productions. There's a lot of movies that this production company has released, and is this the resurgence of B movies, or are they actually putting out some pretty cool stuff? We're going to have a little bit of a chat about that, and we officially have a red beard troll on our Twitter account. He's pretty passionate about DC, and I'm not sure if we're as passionate as him and we'll reveal why.
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I got my boys Cooley and Jim Rock with us. What's up? Hi everybody. Did you just wave again, man?
It's my thing. On his own this time. Yeah, on his own, I didn't force his hand. We're going to put out like a GIF of me doing that.
Oh, dude, we should. That should be like the picture for this episode, Jim, just fake waving. GIF. Yeah.
Or GIF. Is it a GIF or a GIF? GIF. GIF.
I call it a GIF, people call it a GIF. I call it a GIF. I call it a GIF. I call it a GIF.
Tomato. Whatever the fuck. Tomato. Tomato.
I don't have my hair gel in there. Tomato. Tomato. Tomato.
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I'm not going to possibly, well, we know what's happening. It's a new Black Widow movie. Scarlett Johansson is obviously going to be playing Black Widow. Who else would they?
She's awesome in that role. But we don't really know much else about that. We know that they're looking for a female director. I mean, I'm excited to see Scarlett Johansson take on this role and find out more about how Black Widow came about.
Exactly a little bit more about her character since I don't really necessarily read the comics. I'd like to see how the MCU is actually going to explain that. But looking for a female director, I mean, do you guys have anybody that you could picture actually doing this film or directing this film as a female director of anybody that jumps out specifically? I mean, nobody that I know of that has taken on this kind of a movie.
The cool thing about Black Widow is that it can be any kind of movie. Right. Like, you can go back to the Red Room and her training and how she became the Black Widow. I'd like to see that.
And I mean, that's something that they've shown in the movies a couple of times where we got to see her origins and stuff like that. So, I mean, it's not necessary, but it's something they could really do something cool with. The only problem is that she's a tad bit older than what she should be in that movie. So having it be Scarlett Johansson, that would be kind of weird.
So the fact that she's involved makes me think that's probably not what they're going to do. But they can always have like a younger girl portray her in the last class. Yeah, and Disney has proven time and again that they are masters at de-aging people. So they could totally just do that as well, I guess.
But it's not like she's got a ton of age on her to get rid of anyway. Chris Evans in Captain America for Avenger. I understand that was not too much time. I mean, Michael Douglas for me was the big one in Ant-Man.
And making him look younger was pretty damn fantastic. I can see that. I mean, I thought Michael Douglas was great in this movie. Technology, right?
Yeah. I mean, you don't have to go crazy with Scarlett Johansson. She doesn't look like she's wrinkly in shit, but the bottom line is she doesn't look like she's 16 anymore. I mean, I don't think she could do a 16 year old or 17 year old.
So I mean, that's my only concern. Well, one of the people that I know that they have been, it's rumored that they're looking at for Director's Kate Shortland. She's done some movies last one was 2012, well, not 2012, but one of them was lore. Another one in 2004, Summer Salt most recently.
She was Director of a 2017 film called the Berlin Syndrome. That's one of the names that I heard was rumored in an article that I read. It's like the front runner. Yeah.
So I mean, I guess we'll see what happens. I mean, I don't really know too much about her, but you know, it says that it was Shortland Asante. So basically, what I've read in this article is a little more input on Black Widow Director's search. I hear Kate Shortland, but sources said not to count out Amma Asante and directed Belle and Maggie Betts.
There's another movie that I can't pronounce who round out the top three contenders called from a field of 49. It was Shortland Asante and Betts who met recently with Marvel. Marvel's Ken Faege with Ann Scarlett Johansson. So the fact that these three women met, who are previously known as the directors, met with Scarlett Johansson and Kevin Faege actually is a pretty good idea that it may be one of the three.
I mean, obviously Patty Jenkins would have been a good one, but she's directing Wonder Woman. Exactly. And Wonder Woman 1984 because the one thing that DC was smart about was locking her down. Yeah.
I mean, you know, I believe I'm pretty sure that she was involved in Thor. I feel like that makes sense. I heard that somewhere before. And she got fired and they brought on, I think, how did she go?
How did she go fired? That creative differences, maybe, something like that. So it was something weird. I mean, like, I just think, there must have been something behind it and I mean, everything happens for a reason, but if they had let her finish that movie and kind of kept her in their stable of directors, she would have been doing Black Widow or Captain Marvel.
Do we think that this Black Widow movie is Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman? Well, no, I think Captain Marvel is going to be, it's really weird. It's a good question. The answer to that question is kind of folded on top of itself because Marvel had announced that they were doing Captain Marvel well before DC committed to doing Wonder Woman.
So I want to say that Wonder Woman is DC's response and kind of their attempt to be first on the scene, right, by doing Wonder Woman. That's their response to Captain Marvel. I can understand that. But because Wonder Woman came out first, I think now Captain America is the response.
It doesn't matter. I'm not going to say it. But yeah, Black Widow, are we surprised that this movie is coming out to begin with? Because I am.
A little bit, I didn't see Black Widow having her own movie, but I'm kind of excited to see it. Yeah, I mean, Scarlett Johansson's been fighting for this for a long time. It should be. Yeah, and I'm really glad that she's getting a chance to shine because I'm sure when she signed up to be Black Widow, I'm sure she had it in her head like, oh, I'm going to get a movie because she's looking at all the stuff that's going on.
And now we're talking to them enough together. And remember, she came on Iron Man 2, which is like, that was way in the beginning. That was just as they decided that they were starting this Marvel Universe thing. It's going to be almost 10 years ago now.
So, Cooley, here's a question for you. And Jim, obviously, you know, jump in on this, please. Well, it is the podcast so everyone can jump in. Black Widow, apparently going to have her own movie.
Where do you see this all going? I mean, that's kind of an open question with probably a lot of answers, but like, we've already had Infinity War, so we know that went. There's going to be another Infinity War or the second part of this. Yeah, to wrap it all up.
Exactly. I mean, do you think it's too late for them to do a Black Widow movie? Like, how is this all going to fit into the MCU? If they wrap up with the next Infinity War, does that end things?
Do you see the Marvel Universe moving forward? Wow, that's a long question and a lot of answers. I mean, I think there's one answer that I can give you, and that's, I don't think it's too late for anything. I think they've set this up as a comic book universe, just like they did with their comics, and you can literally give us any story.
We can go back in time, we can go forward in time, we can go, we can follow right after the Infinity War and Infinity Gauntlet or whatever, they're going to call the fourth one. I think they can literally do anything with the character, but I think it's all going to be contingent on what we get in Captain Marvel because they're introducing the Skrulls. I have a strong feeling that we're either going to see the Kree Skrull War, which is a war between the alien races of the Kree and the Skrull, if you haven't figured that out. I didn't.
Good, good. So I'm glad I broke it down. It's either going to be Kree Skrull War or it's going to be Secret Invasion, which is where the Skrulls actually infiltrate humans and shit like that by, you know, because they're shapeshifters and they can kind of blend in. And like in the books, it was basically they were impersonating key figures in the Marvel Universe, so you had characters that were actually Skrulls that people thought were, you know, Elektra or Mockingbird or Vrigen Captain America characters like that.
That everybody's like Hank Pym was a Skrull. And it was like, it was very, very interesting and very cool because there was that element of who do you trust now. So that might be something that they do going forward and I think because they're introducing the Skrulls in Captain Marvel, I think that's kind of where they're going to go with the Marvel Universe going forward. So we'll see what they have planned and I'll be honest, man.
They haven't failed me yet. I mean, I think everything they've got to knock down the box. So it's kind of like when Fisher Stevens infiltrated the Indian culture by doing Short Circuit 2. Yes, which you had commented on that.
Just like that. That was a pretty awesome, blew my mind. Yo, so I know you guys are not, you're not offended by, I have a joke, it's MCU related, but are you guys offended by your mama jokes at all? I mean, as long as you're not talking about my mama, no, it's not even specific.
You can talk about my mom. Alright, here we go, right? Your mama's so fat, Thanos had to snap his fingers twice. I thought that was pretty funny.
That's not funny. Yeah, somebody took me the other day and I literally laughed for a good ten seconds. I think it's funny that people are still doing yo mama jokes. Well, I think it was more of just kind of like a stupid thing.
Didn't like Wilmer Valderama, like kill it. I mean, whatever, it's stupid, but it made me laugh and I thought you guys were funny. Whatever. Real quick though.
Yeah. I'm going to throw this in now, only because we're talking about the MCU. We got our first troll, we mentioned that in the intro. Oh my God, yeah.
Joke. I'm a huge MCU fan, so, you know, like I... Really? Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Huge MCU fan and it's just, you know, this is funny to me because basically I posed this question. I just said, hashtag haters gonna hate, right? Yeah.
Question for the Twitterverse. Does tribalism play a role in whether or not we love or hate a movie? For example, I wasn't a fan of Batman v Superman's and Suicide Squad and Justice League, but I loved Wonder Woman and all the MCU films. Let's discuss, use hashtag tribores, right?
And I'm expecting to have a pretty decent conversation with people across the Twitterverse, but we got one person responding to this thing and it was the troll. And so, you know, when I read my tweets as the troll, I'm not gonna actually correct his grammar. So I followed this up by saying, I personally like to think that I'm above tribalism because I do and I want the DC EU movies or DC Extended Universe movies to be great. Why not?
I mean, that means more great superhero films from me to shove into my eyeholes. But it feels like Warner Brothers just doesn't care about the director's vision and muddies everything up. So the reply from the troll, the first one that we got was, yes, is the short answer. I also think your perception of a comic book movie.
I like the films you claim, not to be, I like the films you claim, not to be like because for me they are more realistic and are maturely to approach mythical and fictitious characters as if they actually exist in a real world. So I said, I don't think I hated them more than just thought they could have been better. It was, it wasn't concept, it was execution. And from, for me anyway, I can totally see how others could enjoy them.
I don't see how one is more realistic or mature than the other though. Is it the humor? And the troll responds. No, it is not humor.
The M&U steel is a much more mature take on Superman than ever before portrayed. It is realistic because it is set in our world literally having the media, businesses, the services such as military and politics of our world, the MCU does not have that period. So I said, oh snap. I didn't know this was a debate.
Okay, MCU doesn't have media or military. Wait, wasn't Iron Man selling weapons to the military? Who does Thunderbolt Ross worked for? Willy Wonka?
Who broke the news that Iron Man was Tony Stark? Some Rando? I don't know. You're gonna have to dig deep in the net, bud.
The military means what? I said, as our world, in short, not Hollywood, bud, actual military people, weapons and vehicles, the way the military actually conducts itself with actual military language was present in MOS. Actual media as CNN, ESPN with actual announcements, announcers were used. Yeah, every emphasis that you just made was all in caps, by the way.
So that was great. I do that on purpose. So I said, ah, gotcha. Yeah.
Like CNN reports on things in Iron Man and that there was a dog fight with an F-22 Raptor or two F-22 Raptors in the first Iron Man movie. I totally understand now. Not to mention that you actually put pictures of Iron Man. Yeah.
Clear that up. And he responded with, one, CNN covering a dog fight between Iron Man and two military fighter jets is unrealistic. It clearly fantasy as how would they know this is to be able to cover it? And two, I believe the CNN reporter was covering Tony Stark coming and saying he was Iron Man.
So I replied, spoiler, the CNN report is a separate thing from the dog fight. But I see what you're saying now. The way the DCEU represents its fictional superhero world with godlike beings beating each other up in the sky is far more realistic than how Marvel does it. Man, look at all those screens.
No, it is not about godlike beings beating up each other. It is actually about the relatable way the world actually works. News in the media dominates our world. That is my point.
They use real news people and real news outlets. What day goes by and you don't hear the news? Real. Yo, I mean...
Yo, that was my point actually. Dude, I can't, dude. You can't make this up, man. Yo, that guy was man-passionate.
Boy, that's how I hear in my head. So, listen, man, shout out to the troll. Thanks for interacting with me. It was fun while it lasted.
But as you see, I did stop responding. That's my favorite point, actually. Is that reading these, he kept responding and you were like, I think I'm done. It was dangerous.
I mean, I thought he wasn't getting it. Because I was being as nice as I possibly could. I was just like, dude, I get it. I totally get it.
My first response was just literally like, hey, I get why people would like these movies. Like I get it. Yeah, well, you were just having a hit on this conversation. He literally went ham.
I didn't like the... But yeah, no, I just thought it was hilarious. I'm on his Twitter feed right now. And there's only two things on here.
I love DC and I hate Donald Trump. Wait, those are the only two things he's posted? That's pretty much it. That's great.
Well, I respect the second tweet. I respect the second tweet and I would like that. Yo, I'm going to go on this Twitter right now. That's second tweet.
Tell them how real the news is. Oh my God. When we're talking about Donald Trump. Is Donald Trump going to talk about Iron Man?
Oh my God. I'm going to do this so good. But wait a minute, Donald Trump just goes. So one of the big things that we're doing coming up, it's going to be a huge improvement.
We're calling it the space sector. Space force. Space force. It's going to be equal from the Air Force.
So we're going to have our military, our Air Force and the Space Force. I don't know. He sounds a little weird. Space force is just so weird.
Space force is just so awkward. That's so awkward. I'm Donald Trump. Fuck LeBron James.
That's my... I'm not political. Oh my God. So, so.
So, so. So, so, so. So, Blumhouse, bro. Yeah, totally.
I mean, Blumhouse Productions, basically if you look them up on Wikipedia or on any source, it just basically says they're a multimedia production company that is pioneered a new model of studio filmmaking by producing high quality micro-budget films. Blumhouse, which has a first look deal with universal pictures, has produced such high quality profitable film franchises as the purge, insidious, and paranormal activity. So anybody who is familiar with those films would say, okay, they seem to be doing pretty well. But is this technically a company that's throwing out just B movies and is thrown out kind of good movies and then like, you know, just like, Trump loads of shit.
It's weird, man. So, they go either way. I mean, if you look at the type of films that this company has released, I mean, here's just a couple of them. And so, it's Happy Death Day, The Purge, Split, Paranormal Activity, Sinister, The Gift, and then Get Out.
So, right there, I mean, the majority of the films that I just listed are pretty well respected films. I mean, Paranormal Activity has done well. It spawned multiple films after that. The Purge is doing really well.
It's actually coming out with a new film in like a couple months, Split with James McAvoy was excellent. And then also Get Out was phenomenal. And they also did Whiplash in 2014. And like I said, Get Out in 2017.
Both have earned nominations for Academy Awards for Best Picture. So, what's my favorite movie in 2014? Flat Out loved that movie. Whiplash.
Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying like these movies, although are, you know, you're looking at them, you know, Bloenhaus Productions, like, is it, are they B movies? Are they great movies? They're movies that are doing really well.
Well, B movies aren't bad movies. That's not what they're saying. Well, no, I'm not saying that. But I mean, like B movies are not like A-list, like movies.
They're not considered like, they're like, oh my God. Yeah, totally B movies. But a lot of B movies now are actually, you know, kind of breaking down some barriers and actually kind of getting in front of like bigger eyes and they're starting to impress, you know, the Academy and things like that. So B movies can't continue to be underrated.
Right. They are modern day B movies. I mean, like back in the day, you know, this is the kind of, but like, this is like, this would equate to the kind of budget that a Roger Corman would get to produce something. Now he's getting the budget that he got to make movies.
He's getting that budget to make like, telefilms like friggin, Sharknado, you know. Right. I mean, if you look at this production company, right, as far as like what these movies were made for or made with and what they actually made overall, it's pretty astonishing. I mean, in paranormal activity, it was made for $15,000 and it grossed over $193 million.
Yeah. That's Blair, which I mean, that's insane. Right. So insidious, it grossed over 97 million worldwide on a budget of 1.5 million.
Yeah. Sinister grossed over 87 million and it was made with 3 million. Um, you know, I mean, these are ridiculous money making machines like they, they pretty much found a pattern of what works and what audiences seem to like and what's going to bring in the money. They're sticking with that.
And even though some of these are really cheesy, you know, like they had the one with like a Ouija board. I don't even think that did that well, but I mean, it falls in line with some of the previous movies that have made money. I think that's the one bloom house film I haven't seen. I haven't seen it.
See, I haven't seen it because it looked awful. Um, but excuse me, then again, I mean, if you look at paranormal activity, there's a lot of those I haven't seen either because I saw the first two and I was like, oh, this is dumb, but, but audiences actually love that. They love going into the, into the theaters, you know, grabbing a popcorn, you know, going on there like date night with like, you know, the teens going there with like their boyfriend's girlfriends and like, oh my God, I'm going to get scared. I mean, that's what they were all really good.
Yeah, they make money because they get those cheap scares. I mean, can we say that bloom house is almost single handedly reviving the horror genre currently? I mean, it's got, like you said, insidious purge and paranormal activity, which are like the three giant horror franchises out right now. It's got the creep movies.
It's got the gift. It's got let's, it's got the complete research. You need to be creepers. No, creep.
It's on Netflix. We've got the complete resurgence of M. Night Shyamalan. He has been brought back to life after some bullshit movies with the visit and split and now glass is going to be coming out with just a blue mouse movie, which I think we all agree harken back to his old sixth sense, unbreakable.
Oh, so we had time with unbreakable. Exactly. Hush is a movie. We've got the Belco experiment.
Happy death day. I mean, these, these are great fun movies except for one and it's so out of place. They made gem in the hologram. Yes.
Yeah. Just stick to horror movies. Yes, please. Yes, please.
You know, they actually made Exeter to they made that. Yeah, it was just like that. Exeter was a film. I know.
I saw it. It was July 2nd of 2015 at a $2 million budget. Well, actually, I'm sorry. It actually that was 2 million.
No, no, the budget was 2 million. It did not do that. Well, it made. That's probably their one flop.
Yeah, I think it did. I'm actually looking at it right now. Hold on. If I can find out exactly how much it was.
I actually thought it was pretty good. Well, no, I mean, the movie was a bad film, but it made something like the $250,000 kind of like, you know, money range. I feel like that was like straight to Netflix movie. It was.
But Exeter was good. I feel like if you live in Rhode Island and you know where like the Joseph E. Latskool is because that's where it was filmed and that's like reportedly haunted. We used to go ghost on there.
We used to go ghost on there. We've been in there. We have pictures. I mean, it's some freaky shit there, but at the same time, like they know that it was filmed that was kind of a big deal to locals.
So I think that's where the majority of the money came from and some outsiders in like the New England area. Did they do don't breathe? I don't know, actually. I don't think so.
I haven't been seen. That seems like a boom house film. It seems like it. I just don't see it on the list here.
And I'm also looking at upcoming movies and some of these movies are going to be huge. Halloween. They've got the next purge. They've got Halloween.
They've got glass, which is the next M night. They've got another happy death day. They have five nights at Fridays. They've got spawn.
There's another movie coming out called thriller, what's on I'm interested to know what that is. I mean, who knows? Whenever I hear thriller, I just think Michael Jackson. I think one thinks Michael Jackson.
But it's also, but it's also when you look at like whatever this says, I mean the it just says Dallas Jackson is somebody that's in it. Or I mean, I don't know. That's interesting. Michael Jackson, Dallas Jackson.
Yeah, maybe it's like a remake of the thriller video. Maybe. I mean, that's interesting that they would just do the video as a movie. Right.
But I mean, you take that. Yeah, you extrapolate it out across like two hours or an hour and a half. It's like Halloween makes the walking dead. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I agree with Jim. I mean, some of the stuff they have lined up is pretty ridiculous. Dude, I think we need to go to happy death.
I mean, happy death day. We need to go to Bloom house when we write our movie. Just be like, yo, I've got like 10 bucks and a killer script. What's up?
We got you. Yeah, what's up? For real. Hey, man, they're a start up and they're doing really well.
I mean, I can't really crack on them. I mean, a lot of people think that there could be some B movies going out with Bloom house and whatever. I mean, no, that are B movies. $15,000 is a B movie.
$1 million budget, a $2 million budget in an era where you're talking minimum 30 to 40 mil for a budget, just to cover the actor and the actress that you're going to have in the film. I mean, these guys have developed a relationship with the movie studios that are putting out the movies that are putting together the movies with the actors, with the, like they just, it just seems like they have a really good relationship with people and they just like, look, let's get this movie done. But the thing about these movies is that they're, yeah, even though you might consider them as B movies, they are killing at the bottom, the, I can't talk today, they're killing at the box office, you know, and that's what, that's the only thing that this production company and the studio cares about is how they do with the box office. You could put $5 million into a movie and if it makes $25,000, it's still a win.
Yeah, but that's the thing. If you look at the box office and what's considered a hit, like that, the only reason why they are hits are because they spent so little on them. Right. But that's what I'm saying.
Like I'm saying like any game, whatever it is, is still a win for the company. They're not looking at it on a grand scale. Right. But that, but that doesn't mean I was waiting to fly away.
That doesn't mean that, that doesn't mean that you would take that and you would put it up against like, you know, Creed and say, and say, and say, oh, this is an A-list movie because it made X amount of dollars. No, it's what you put into it. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's still a B movie, but it's a damn good B movie.
Not just movies, but they're also branching off into TV. They've come out with stuff such as Orin Pelly's The River in 2012. They came out with Ascension, The Sci-Fi TV Show and this year they're going to be coming out with the TV show The Perge based on the movie. Interesting.
And they are also coming out with the resurgence of the TV show, Scare Tactics. Oh, nice. Oh, that's cool. I love Scare Tactics.
Damn, man. So that's it. That's all I got. That's it, man.
They are cash cow. Yeah, I agree. I think what they're doing is great for the industry. They're going to see more good stuff because they're willing to take chances on people that these are probably movie pitches that people have gone to, like, the bigger studios with and they just kind of said, no, go fuck yourself.
Right. And these guys were just like, hey, we'll give you a two million. Do the movie. Right.
We'll give you 15,000. I think that's all you need. Make it happen. You know, and they trust the directors to do their thing.
There's probably very little interference from Blumhouse with the directors. They make their movie, they put it together and they give it to them and they say, here you go. And they put it out and you get a good film. Just steer clear of 1980's cartoon and toy franchises.
Why do you say that? Because of Jim and the holograms. Yes. Oh, I agree.
I got you. I got you. But, um, but yeah, so that's all I got for today. How about you guys?
I'm good. Word. Yeah. Good.
Yeah. I just make sure you tune in later on tonight for the Bachelorette after party with Tony and Becca. And make sure you tune in on Thursday for We Love Wednesday's Every Thursday's With Yours Truly. And a couple other people.
But yeah, peace out from the Nerd Ruckus Network. We'll see you later. Good bye.