EP135 AI and Security: The Good, the Bad, and the Magical

Guest: Phil Venables (@philvenables), Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) @ Google Cloud Topics: Why is AI a game-changer for security? Can we even have game-changers in cyber security? Is it more detection or is it more reducing toil and making humans more productuve? What are you favorite AI for security use cases? What "AI + security" issue makes you  - a classic CISO question  here - lose sleep at night? Does AI help defenders or attackers more? Won't attackers adopt faster because they don't have as many rules (but yes, they have bosses and budgets too)?  Aren't there cases where defenders benefit a lot more and gain a superpower with AI while attackers are faced with defeat? Is securing AI more similar or more different from securing other enterprise systems? Does shared fate apply to AI?  Resources: "Securing AI: Similar or Different?" paper by Office of the CISO at Google Cloud "Secure AI Framework Approach"  Supercharge security with AI Board of Directors Insights Hub "Lessons from the future: Why shared fate shows us a better cloud roadmap" blog "Megatrends, Macro-changes, Microservices, Oh My! Changes in 2022 and Beyond in Cloud Security" (ep47) "Securing Multi-Cloud from a CISO Perspective, Part 3" (ep22) "Google Cybersecurity Action Team: What's the Story?" (ep37) "Google Cybersecurity Action Team: One Year Later!" (ep90)