EP16 - The hatchback renaissance - the Rivian R3 and Renault R5. Plus the death of the Apple Car, and the state of design leadership.

The death of the desirable hatchback has been exaggerated. In the space of two weeks, we've been gifted the new Renault R5 and the Rivian R3 and R3X. We discuss their design, and what they mean for their respective manufacturers.Meanwhile, the death of the Apple Car is now (almost definitely) certain and we explore why Apple finally caved. And we also discuss what's happening to design in the C-Suite, and whether maybe our time at the big table is up, and whether that's actually a bad thing.📨 Subscribe to Looking Out - The Newsletter, the partner to the podcast.https://automobility.substack.com🤝 Connect with us on LinkedInDrew - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewpasmith/Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-s-92863a2/🔗 Links @apolaine interviews Peter Merholz about the state of the design nation: https://www.youtube.com/live/XLQ3hnbdKcM?si=G-SsdVC4fv7XqAPkRobert Fabricant - The big design freak-out: A generation of design leaders grapple with their future: https://www.fastcompany.com/91027996/the-big-design-freak-out-a-generation-of-design-leaders-grapple-with-their-future📸 Follow us on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/lookingoutpodcast/⏰ Time stamps00:00 Pre-roll01:58 How do we stay positive?09:20 The Death of Project Titan27:53 Rivian's new products!40:13 The Reanult R549:48 The big design freak-out01:01:52 The need for a new Baccara01:04:45 Outro🎧 Listen and subscribe to the podcastApple -  https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/looking-out-the-podcast/id1636199763Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0YschSrj672jQOGt3R5eE5Other platforms and streaming - https://podcast.lookingout.ioThat's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.If you like what you hear, please leave a review for us on your favourite podcasting platform. It helps other folk like you find us!And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com