Ep179 – Ben Thompson (Co-founder & CEO – Employment Hero) on growth, PMF & principles

The Startup Playbook PodcastInsights and lessons from the world's best entrepreneurs and investors Twitter Facebook YouTube Instagram Ep179 – Ben Thompson (Co-founder & CEO – Employment Hero) on growth, PMF & principles April 18, 2024 rohitbhargava Podcast My guest for Ep179 of The Startup Playbook Podcast was Ben Thompson, the Co-founder & CEO of Employment Hero. Employment hero is one of Australia’s great startup success stories. The business launched in November 2014 and fast forward almost a decade later, they have 2.5M users and 300,000 SME customers globally and in 2023 they raised a $263M Series F funding round, taking their total funding to $650M at a valuation just shy of $2B. In this episode we get into many of the insights and lessons from his journey in building a $2B business, but as you may have seen, Ben and Employment Hero have also been in the news recently for their fight with Hostplus, an industry Super Fund that is an LP in Airtree, which is also one of the investors in Employment Hero. That fight started when Ben called out HostPlus on a LinkedIn post and escalated to the point where HostPlus pushed for Ben to be sacked as CEO of his company. For the first time since the incident, Ben shares his side of the story on what went down on this podcast. Timestamps 4:27 Ben’s background and early career 12:33 Decision to launch a tech startup 17:01 Early days at Employment Hero 19:52 Different funding options available for founders 27:13 Managing multiple businesses and competing priorities 30:49 Importance of strong personal relationships as a founder 33:22 Employment Hero global expansion during Covid 37:05 Finding product market fit in different markets when expanding 40:45 How to think about product decisions and requests from different markets 43:57 How the CEO role has evolved over time for Ben 46:07 Finding and hiring the right people at the right time 48:48 Ben’s thoughts on the Hostplus situation 57:20 Staying true to company vision 59:34 What’s next for Employment Hero Our partners A big thank you to our partners for the show: Scendar  Scendar is the OG startup accounting firm in Australia catering to all stages of your business’ life. 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