Ep190: Love & Death in the Himalayas - Naomi Levine

In this episode I am joined by Naomi Levine, author, under her birth name Norma Levine, of multiple books including ‘The Miraculous 16th Karmapa’, ‘A Quest For The Hidden Lands’, and ‘Chronicles of Love and Death: My Years With The Lost Spiritual King of Bhutan’. Naomi recalls why she dropped out of academia to pursue an alternative lifestyle, and through a series of life-changing encounters with Tibetan gurus such as Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, 16th Karmapa, and Tai Situpa, converted to Buddhism and moved to India to pursue a life of yogic practice. Naomi describes her close discipleship under Tai Situpa, and recounts her initial meeting, and subsequent multi-year relationship, with the Shabdrung - a highly revered Bhutanese tulku said to possess potent magical abilities. Naomi also discusses the difficulty of differentiating between crazy wisdom and abusive behaviour, reflects her own naivety about what the practice of Vajrayana really entails, and describes the signs of enlightenment after the death of great beings. … Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep190-love-death-in-the-himalayas-naomi-levine Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’. … Topics Include: 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Naomi’s recent autobiographical writings 04:58 - The last free generation 09:53 - How the world and culture changed and became less open 11:51 - Post war culture and music’s effect on culture 12:50 - Naomi’s PhD thesis on the English playwright Arnold Wesker and moving to England 14:37 - The extraordinary village of Hay-on-Wye 16:05 - Naomi’s family of origin and upbringing 17:48 - A powerful Saturn return 19:34 - Meeting Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche at Samye Ling 21:46 - Impressions of Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche 25:19 - Life changing meeting with the 16th Karmapa 26:30 - Becoming a disciple of Tai Situ Rinpoche 27:48 - Conversion to Buddhism 30:18 - Naivety about the realities of Vajrayana practice 33:23 - The Guru is not your best friend 34:20 - Not ready for Tantra 37:17 - What’s really required for Vajrayana practice 40:24 - Vajrayana cannot be taught in today’s culture 45:11 - Meeting the Shabdrung for the first time 49:06 - Falling in love with the Shabdrung and beginning a relationship 51:16 - The remarkable story of the previous Shabdrung incarnations 53:02 - Great beings can still experience trauma 55:08 - Crazy wisdom or just crazy? 01:01:13 - Impressions of Bhutan 01:03:49 - Supernatural experiences around the Shabdrung 01:05:58 - The death of the Shabdrung and revealing realisation 01:08:31 - Shabdrung’s opinion of other lamas 01:10:14 - How Naomi’s book was received 01:13:14 - Not a great Khandro … To find out more about Naomi Levine, visit: - https://www.facebook.com/naomilevine111 - https://www.amazon.com/stores/Norma-Levine/author/B001K86LZ4?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true … 
For more interviews, videos, and more visit: - www.guruviking.com … Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James