Ep2 : Dead by Daylight Killers

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You don't think it is a good catchphrase? We'll let Chat decide later on, maybe in a different tone. Would you like me to like a little bit deeper with it or would you like that sounds more like a bird. We stream the live recordings on Twitch.tv/themadhousepodcast. Of course, there is a brand new killer that I do not know much about, so I will not be able to really speak on it. I don't know if you've played with the new killer. I have not. I've played against the new killer, so I know some of the stuff with the new killer, but actually gameplay, not so much. When I do play DVD am a killer Main. However, Owls is A survivor Main. And what we're going to be talking about is the Dead by Daylight killers. Primarily, if this gets a good outcome or positive feedback, we may do one on the survivors, but tonight is going to be the Dead by Daylight Killers. Now, fun fact, I actually found this out after going through making the list of all the different killers. There are 17 killers currently that are DVD exclusive and then there are eight licensed killers. So the eight licensed killers are killers that come from TV shows or old school movies, horror movies, something that's not original to them. Correct. There'll be eight. Really? Currently there are eight. So do you want to go through the list and just list them off first and then we'll go down and actually talk about them? Yeah, we can do it that way. Are you saying that you want me to do that? Oh, no. I mean, I've already got them listed out, so I'll talk about them. Of course, the eight license killers are Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Leatherface, Pig from the Saw series, Ghost Base, Pyramid, Head, Nemesis and Pinhead. So those are all licensed killers. They call them different things, though. Even though they're licensed killers, they don't call them that in the game. Well, they do, but they don't. So their names in game for Freddy Kruger is the Nightmare, which is indicative of Nightmare on Elm Street. That would make sense. Yeah. Mike Myers is the shape. The shape is actually a name that was given to him in the original Halloween movie by the Detectives because they didn't know who he was at first. So it was just the shape. The shape. Okay. All right. Leather Face is the cannibal, if I remember correctly. By the way, if you want to follow along in the audience as long as you're not driving anywhere. But if you're on Twitch or just listening in a safe location, we are using the Pocket or excuse me, www.pockettactics.com. Dead by Daylight killers and the Dead by Daylight or between dead by and between by Daylight are hyphens. You're so great at explaining the website. I'm trying I'm trying to make it as easy as possible. So what we're using again to just kind of characterize and talk about the different attributes, weapons, perks, all that of the killers is www.pockettactics.com/dead-by-daylight/killers. Thank you. You're welcome. I got to do something here. And actually it's not Leather Face, it's the Hillbilly. No, no, no. There are the Hillbilly is one is one of the original characters and we'll get to the confusion there as well. Oh, yeah. All right. But Leatherface is the cannibal. Pig is Pig, I believe. Yeah. Pig is Pig. Yeah. So Amanda Young is actually the pig. The Pig. She was one of the original survivors of the Saw Killer and she ended up coming back to assist in the later movies. But it wasn't revealed, I believe, until spoiler alert. I think it was solved four or five when it was revealed that Amanda Young came back and donned the Pig mask to collect the participants of the Saw Games. Yeah, I remember I watched all of those like in a row. So it kind of blurred for me. Go space is of course, just go space. And that's one thing. No, he's called something else. Well, the Scream Killer is in there. Yes. Oh, he is. Okay. All right. Let's see. Pyramid Head, of course, is from Silent Hill. He is known as the Executor in the game Dead by Daylight. Executioner, right? Yeah. Well, executioner, yes. And then you have Nemesis, which is, I believe, Nemesis. No, he's got something else. No, he's Nemesis. He is the Nemesis. Okay. Yeah. Because T-type is one of the original Titan style monsters in the Resident Evil. It is Resident Evil. Yeah. Resident Evil franchise was the T. Nemesis became more popular in the movies but also was very well pronounced in the original games. Yeah. Resident Evil Two is where the first depiction of Nemesis came in and then they reenergized it in the movie series for one movie, I believe. Yeah. Because of the T-virus. All right. And then finally Pinhead, which I have never been able. What is that? Cenibite? Because it's weird. It's not exactly how it looks. I feel like it would be Cenobite. Yeah, I'm going to go with that as well. But in the Hell Raiser franchise, Pinhead is actually the demonic mutation of Elliot Spencer and they do give him reference as far as his human name, but of course because of the demonetization. Demonic demonetization. Yeah, I know. Is that what it is? Yeah, pretty much. But the demonizing of his soul, he became Pinhead. That's what I was trying to get at. No, you missed them. No, I didn't miss anybody. Demigorgan. Oh, shit. I did miss the Demigorgan. So there's nine licensed killers. What about the spirit, too? I thought that no spirit is 13 ghosts. Nope. That is not correct. Not correct, no. Yes, absolutely. I cannot believe that you forgot about the Demogorgon. Well, they did technically. I'm sorry, puppy. They did technically remove him. So if you are a new gamer or a new player to dead by daylight, you can no longer get Demigorgan. The only people that can utilize him in game are those that had him previously. Can you say that again? Say his name. Demigorgan. It just sounds like you keep saying it differently each time. I feel like you said like, Demi Gorgon. And it just like it threw me off. But yeah, definitely you can't get that one anymore. And I was really bummed out because I started to like that map. And of course, the demagorgon came from the Stranger. Stranger Things. Stranger Things. Thank you. Stranger Things. I know you cut out for a second because you just stopped at Stranger and it was like a full stop. Yeah, that's my brain at work. Wait a second. Did he cut out Stranger Things? Season one is where the characters or the killers embodiment is based on because they change the demagorgon to cat like or animal like, more smaller creature like intersection. I get it. But it gets a little crazier in the second and third season and then who knows what they're going to do with four. Yeah. See, I haven't really kept up with Stranger Things that much so that I do not know about. Okay, so it looks like that's good. So let's go back and talk about the first 17. Okay, so the first three, of course, were Trapper, Wraith and Hillbilly. Okay. Clown is not a licensed character. So we've got the first three, which are Trapper, Wraith and Hillbilly. Those were, from what I understand, the very first killers to ever show face in the game. And it is definitely explained and shown in their Morries, which are very lackluster, to say the least. I've never seen the Mori for Trapper. Yeah, it sucks. He basically pins you down and just slices on the back of the survivor. Slices on the back. Yeah, that seems very much like the pyramid head one. No, he just takes like a machete or something and just slices on the back. Very lackluster. All right. Probably why I haven't seen it. Yeah. And a lot of people don't really use Trapper that much anymore. Trapper is, again, the one that has the meat Cleaver or hatchet or not hatchet, but machete style weapons. I think there's a few alterations to the primary weapon of Trapper. I think he also has traps. Yes, spare traps. Spare traps are another part of his Arsenal. However, he does not necessarily carry them in hand like a dual weapon set up. It's just kind of in his back pocket kind of thing. Does he have them always? Because, of course, I haven't played killer. Does he have them always? Is it like, oh, it comes out of, like, Mary Poppin, or are they just around the map and he has to pick them up, find them, and then set them. So from what I understand, because I haven't really played Trapper all that often once I started unlocking them. But he does have access to three on his person to place. And then there are traps laid out throughout the map as well. Okay, yes. Okay, there we go. I'm reading it now. Okay. He starts to match with two. Two. Okay, this may be outdated. We don't. Yeah, because the pocket tactics did not even mention Demigorgan from what I saw. That's how I made the list. Okay, yeah, I have a secondary list I'm looking at, but, yeah, it says he starts the match with two, while a further six spawn throughout the game. Okay. And then that, of course, is dependent because I know there is one perk in there that allows him to carry more, if I remember. Yeah, I'm sure there is. Yeah. So as far as the weapon, Cleaver is the primary one or some type of bladed weapon is his primary. All right. Evanilan the trapper, one of the original trio. Evan is a sadistic killer, one of the idolized. His Daddy too much, so. Very easy. Daddy sorry. Daddy sorry. All right. And then, of course, the weapon, and then the effects. So the perks, you have unnerving presence, brutal strength and agitation. And then they have various if you're looking at the website, they have various effects to them depending on the levels. Primary power is the bear trap, so that is his power move. It's like the main thing, and he can actually it says it here, but you can get stuck in them as a survivor, but he can also get stuck in them. Yes. So if you play the trapper, which, again, is one of the more novice or easier killers and one of the original three, make sure you know where you put your traps. Also, as a survivor, you can basically turn them off, dismantle that particular trap if you see it prior to activating it. Yeah, that's Emily. I think it's nice that it does that, because then it makes it a little bit more realistic. Like, when you're playing games and, like, say you're in, like, Overwatch. Moira has a healing and the likes I can't think of where she, like, kills. Like, the healing only heals your people, so if you throw it at the other people, it won't do it. So I think I like that he can get stuck in his own traps because it makes it, I mean, not super realistic, but more realistic. Also, it's one note that it says here, if you're carrying a victim as trapper and you step on your bear trap, the victim will be released and can escape because it kind of like goes. It's like you're getting flashlighted or palette dropped flashlighted for anybody that is not aware of dead by daylight is when a survivor shines a flashlight in the killer's eyes and it blinds them, making them drop the killer or distracting them or stopping them just hindering them in any way. All right. And then we've got Race next. Race is another of the original three, also known as Philip or a sandmade name Bingbong. Bingbong. Yes. So because of one of his power moves, which is going invisible or basically turning invisible where he cannot attack, but he can move faster and there is no terror radius at the point, so he can walk right up on you, and you would never know. But going in and out of that transit state, he rings a Bell and it just goes, Bing Bong. Or it's a Cowbell, basically. More Cowbell. More Cowbell, definitely. And I actually think that's where the original meme came from. For Bing Bong, fuck your life. And it just became more popular recently with the whole Trump debate versus Biden. I don't know about that, but TikTok makes things popular that would have never been popular prior, but yes. So the character is also known by the community as Bing Bong instead of Wraith, because Bing Bong just sounds so much cooler. I know when everyone says Wraith, I get a little bit confused. Yeah. All right. So they say Bing Monk. So the primary weapon is known as the Azarvo skull, which is basically a bladed, sharpened skull and spine combo. Azerov. Yeah. There you go. Azerov skull. Sweet. We'll go with that one until someone corrects us, and I'm sure if we're both wrong, someone will correct us. Please always correct me. I'm open to that. As long as it's the right. Anyway, sensitive. Don't correct me. I'm just kidding. Which, as its name implies, it is a skull, of course, a skull with attached to a spine. And though it is still attached to the spine of the person Philip tore it from, that's interesting. Nice. Okay, so unique perks, of course, is predator Bloodhound and Shadowborn. And then, of course, the power is the wailing Bell that cloaks the killer, allowing him to stalk his prey under a veil of shadows. However, the survivors can hear the Bell from up to 24 meters away and whoosh noises from up to 40 meters away. So I'm presuming the whoosh being those coming at from him moving around you. Yeah, I can definitely hear it. You can kind of see, like an airy kind of version of an outline of him when he's coming up to you. Yeah. Kind of like if you've ever watched Harry Potter and saw when Harry had the cloak of invisibility on it's kind of one of those things. Or the predator. Think about the predator from Alien versus Predator. When he's invisible, you see that weird outline? That's what you see. Yeah. I was also thinking, like Hollow Man, like the old movie. Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about Hollow Man. All right. And next out of the original three is the Hillbilly. Now, you mentioned earlier you thought that that was Leatherface, his name in the game. Both have. Now, Hillbilly, from what I found out, is who was the developers, the devs for Dead by Daylight like behavior or something like that. Behave. That sounds about right. They did come out in an article and confirm that the design features of Hillbilly was intended to represent Leather face due to the fact that at the time, they didn't have the licensing rights to bring the actual Leather Face in. Yeah, that's why I got confused. I did actually read that they wanted to put it towards him, but they didn't have that. I remember that now. Yeah. So, of course, the chainsaw, the secondary chainsaw and the sledgehammer, or in the case of most of the imagery that you see of Hillbilly, Hillbilly is actually a railroad tie hammer. So it's the one that knocks the railroad spikes into the Railways. Hence why there's a point on one end and a blunt flat end on the other. Yes, this is Max Thompson Jr. Yes. Upbringing was despicable. Go ahead. Keep going. Okay. Oh, you want me? Okay. His parents were wealthy landowners having a child, they didn't ask for one that's disfigured, causing them to lock him away. However, revenge is a sweet dish, one that Max served cold when he ferociously murdered his parents. Was that good? Oh, yeah, it was good. All right, so the cattle hammer, they say cattle hammer. The one I'm looking at is actually a railroad hammer, like a sledgehammer that has a railroad spike on one end for getting into the tight spaces, and then the blunt end for initially knocking it in. And then, of course, the perks are enduring Lightborn and tinkerer. Ooh, tinkerer sucks, that one. If they have the Gen repaired, it makes the generator louder and they're undetectable so the killer can sneak up on you. It's so frustrating. All right. And then his power, of course, is the chainsaw. It allows him to move at double movement speed while wielding the weapon in a manner that, according to this, makes Bubba Sawyer Ie Leather Face blush. Okay. Yeah. Bubba Sawyer is Leatherface, by the way. However, there is an overheat meter, so keep an eye on that when using this power so it can overheat and then it stops working. All right, so next is Sally Smithson. The nurse behavior or behave, has actually come out and noted that the nurse here, the way she moves, she just kind of flows. Where she's at is roughly based on the nurses from the Silent Hill series. That's what I thought. As far as her stance, how she's kind of just there, like, robotic, in a sense. And the covered face is based roughly on the nurses from Silent Hill. However, that is the stylization of this killer. She uses a medical tool back from what looks like the late 1800 early 1900s and was brought into the franchise in roughly 2016 in the Last Breath chapter of the game. If you want to read the rest of that, you can go ahead and do that then. Oh, me? You're talking to me? Yes. Okay. Oh, you want me to read the rest? Okay. Once upon a time, she had a good life, but her husband lost his life while working, forcing Sally to take a job at an insane asylum where patients subjected her to emotional and physical abuse. Of course, there's only so much one can take before they snap. Unfortunately, Sally? S breaking point resulted in the deaths of four staff members and more than 50 patients. Yes. For those listening to us audibly or audio only, I will make sure that I note to put this website in the show notes so that you can reference it later when you are in a safe location or not at work so you don't get in trouble. But yeah, we're going to kind of speed through the next of these because this is a long list, and I want to try to keep this under 2 hours as best as possible since we're running up on the first hour. Let me see. All right. I would like for you to talk really fast through the next ones. Yes. Well, I got to finish out her stuff. So the nurse, of course, is a Bonesaw perfect for cutting through flesh. However, it seems a little lackluster when you're actually using it in game. Yeah. Perks are Strider Santa phobia. Thank you. And a nurse's calling, which is probably one of the most op perks that I've ever seen in a killer in the game so far. Yeah, it's really frustrating. And then, of course, Last Breath from Spencer's Last Breath is her power, the name of her power, which is really just blink, or what is called as the nurses blink, where she fails teleport, she gets two blinks per charge. First one, she goes up to 20 meters, if I remember correctly, and then the second one is anywhere between ten to 12 meters to do a final strike. And then there's a cooldown. All right. Next on my list is the Hag, or Lisa Sherwood. The Hag is roughly based on a type of shamanist that has died, of course, demonized her spirit and is from an old village. According to the stories, she is tortured by Cannibals. Hence why she is very like she doesn't have a lot of skin. Looks more like it's rotten. Yeah. Like rotten flesh dehydrated into her body. There is a lot of lure behind the Hags character. There are plenty of YouTube videos out there that kind of talk about the different killers, and there's a lot of I mean, really good ones. I was looking into a lot of them today, getting prepared for this. And let me see if I can find real quick. There is one creator that has gone through them multiple times on YouTube. He is damn fine. He's good. There is another one. Azamoves A-Z-H-Y-M-O-V-S. He is the one that talked about every Dead by Daylight character at the point of his creation nine months ago. That video is what every Dead by Daylight character is based on or killer is based on. So he kind of broke down from his understanding what he's been able to find as far as research. And he's also the source in which I kind of tied in the nurse to the rough depiction of the Silent Hill nurses inspired by. Yes, the inspiration. The Hag's weapons are, of course, her claws. She has three perks or actually not really perks, but three hexes versus generic standalone perks. The first one is the third seal ruin and then devour hope. And her power is the black and Calus cap catalyst. Catalyst. Thank you. Which allows her to draw a Phantasm sign, which is their little triangles. And when you run or stand up near them, you're moving swiftly near them. A holographic type depiction of the Hag pops up for a jump scare and then gives the Hag the option to teleport to that location and then attack if she so chooses. All right, let's see. Doctor was one of the first killers that I played when I first played this. He is one of those early 1900 like off the rocker fucking doctors that believed in shock therapy. The doctor is actually based on real life doctors who in the early 1900s wanted to use shock therapy to fix mental disorders. So like ADHD, what else is it? Yeah, because let's physically harm somebody that'll fix their mental problems, that will make it worse at all. Yes, absolutely. The original PTSD or shell shock they tried to fix with shock therapy back in the early 1900s, right after World War I, fix diseases. They used electroshock therapy. And that is what that kind of doctor, that mad scientist style doctor. Yes. Bipolar disorder as well as schizophrenia was also shown to in those days be fixed by shock fixable by shock therapy. But that's what the doctor is based on. So as you can imagine, he uses a lot of electricity and turns the survivors that it's affected crazy, hence seeing things. Yeah. Or him just kind of looming in the distance. Yes, he was added to the game roughly about 2017. So a year after the nurse, and of course, being a doctor, he has electricity as one of his characteristics. Very bondage style face skins, I guess you could say, dealing with electroshock and forcing the eyes and mouth open to prevent different side effects from the electroshock therapy. Let's see. All right, so Perks overwhelming presence, monitoring abuse and overcharge with the power, of course, is the shock therapy where he drops a shock charge. Shock charge that goes like a circle around him, kind of spreading. Yeah. I think with a certain perk, it can go up to 16 meters right around where his terror radius is. Yeah. So within his terror radius, if you're standing within that when he drops his super or his power move, that's when you become affected. And it's a tier based system. So at tier one or tier one, you just get shocked and you scream. Every so often at the next year up, you get shocked, scream, and you see hallucinations. Hallucinations. Thank you, Hallucinations. This is what I'm here for. I'm just here to say some words every now and again. Yes. Well, no, you're here for a lot more. I know. I'm just kidding. But he's there. And hallucinations of the doctor as you run around until you snap out of it kind of thing. All right. And then next on my list is one of my favorite DVD killers, The Huntress. It's one of your favorite. I don't think I've ever seen you play it. Oh, yes. She is absolutely one of my favorites. Anna is also her name. Very Amazonian type woman, uses hatchets and wears typically, some type of face covering. In most of the imagery that you'll see on the Dead by Daylight franchise, it is a Bunny mask. I also did a photo shoot with a friend of mine for Halloween where we did a cosplay of the Huntress. She has throwing hatchets as her primary weapon and a larger swinging axe for a secondary weapon. And her throwing axes are refillable as you can go to a locker and pick up more standard you have, I believe, four, five with options to have up to seven. If I remember correctly, it says five. Yes. So standard is five, but I think it's up to seven depending on perk combinations. And then, of course, the one thing that she's really known for is her lullaby, which is actually a German or Russian lullaby that is actually sung sung to children. It's a Russian lullaby, I'm pretty sure. But it is a real lullaby home. Yeah. Oh, with add ons, not perks. Okay, so it is up to seven hatchets, throwable hatchets on your person with an add on and not a perk. Speaking of. Go ahead, the huntresses. Humming is a Russian lullaby named Bayuxi Bayou. Awesome. So there's your fun fact of the evening. It is a real lullaby that she is singing or humming. Like a side note. I did talk to Cookie once and told him that when I did go back into the office because I've been working from home because I'm so new to the Department, I was just going to walk around singing that and throwing coffee mugs at people. Oh, my God, that would be fantastic. Please document this. I want to see how this goes. I'll do it as soon as I'm ready to get fired. Fair. All right, so speaking of perks, she has beast of prey territorial imperative. Did I say that right? Imperative. Yeah, you got it. And then a Hex, which is the huntresses lullaby. So with the lullaby, the Huntress by default still hums it the entire time. However, with the Hex on, survivors receive a progression penalty up to 6% upon failing to skill check with that lullaby. All right. And with that, Hex active until it is cleansed. So all hexes can be cleansed. Depending on the type of Hex. Of course, we'll determine who can cleanse the Hex at any particular time because there are some hexes from killers that are character specific to the ones that they're affected. Hunter starts a trial with five hatchets, which she can throw and attack survivors from a distance. So you can really eat them. As Maximus, those motherfuckers across the map. If you got a good angle and a clear shot. Yeah, you can snipe a survivor. Okay, so after her going down past all the license killers, we got Jeffrey Hawk, which is the clown. Again, the clown is not a licensed killer. There is no horror that it is directly representative of. However, looking at different sources and talking or listening to different content creators talk about it, we can all pretty much agree and I agree to a lot of their statements. As far as the clown being based on real life serial killer clowns, a lot of these can probably be associated with real life. Celiac. There it goes. Serial killer. I'm wearing off on you. Yeah, I know, right? Hanging out too much. I'm going to go ahead and go so I can talk properly. So Pongo patches, which is Gacy, which is the most known serial killer clown from the 70s, but he runs with a poison potion and a knife. John Wayne Gacy inspired. Yes. Alright. And then Perks being bamboozled. You want to do that phobia for me? Cool. Rophobia. Yeah, that's what we're going with. Coilrophobia. Sure, whatever. And then pop goes the weasel is the third. Perk with the power is throwing an afterpiece tonic that causes toxicity, which in turn impairs the vision of survivors and hinders them. So there is a green and a gold potion that the clown carries. The green one only affects survivors in a negative way. However, there is a gold one that he can throw that gives him a boost. But after it's activated, if a survivor walks through, it can also gain that same boost, like in speed. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. A green one. Are you sure it's not the purple or pink? Well, yeah, I believe it's green, actually. Yeah. Green for the negative and then gold or yellow for the boost. All right, next is the spirit. The spirit is based on a Japanese folklore of kind of like the woman in white or the vengeful spirit. And it is from Japanese lure. They are considered a very real entity in a lot of cases. And it is just basically that a vengeful spirit and the whole lure over the Japanese benchful spirits is that they were wrong than life. And because of that, they take on the whole concept of I hate everything and I'm going to kill everything. So you have two perks and a Hex spirit, Fury and Rancor. And then the Hex is Haunted Grounds. The power move for this can traverse at faster speed while she loses sight of survivors. So she basically goes into a teleport, into a different realm kind of thing and can move faster but cannot physically see any survivors. So as long as they're not moving, you can easily track them. But once you come out of that state, they can see you. You can see them while in the trance state. I found this out watching some of the YouTube videos. You can still see their scratch marks on the ground, but you cannot physically see their character. So if they're running, you can see where they're going. Yeah. Yes. Okay, next. And this one confused me for a while. I thought this was actually a license killer, but it is not. I thought so too. And Legion is actually based on four different people. So you have Frank, Susie, Julie, and Joey, all representative of Legion, the Legion killer. So there are multiple different costumes that you can choose from and they are one of the four characters that make up Legion. Legion is the only, to my knowledge, nonferred human killer out of all of these that have no type of extra superpower or real fictional. No real backstory. Yeah, and no real backstory either. So the Legion name is based off of the concept. We are Legion. Or if you want to put it into modern movie style, we are legging. A lot of people based Legion on the Purge series because of the masks and clothing concepts, especially being killers. However, that was debunked by behavior or behavior the developers of Dead By Daylight to not be true. They weren't necessarily based on Purge characters, but you can look at the characters yourself and just see a lot of the stylization. The Stylization not one of my favorites, but to me it's one of those characters that has a little learning curve to it. Yeah, definitely. Perks are Discordance, Mad, Grit and Iron Maiden. And then the power move is the Feral Frenzy, where you move faster. Once you strike a character, you strike them once and then it adds a death shroud to other characters in the nearby that are nearby. You and you can continue the chain as long as you strike different characters. You only strike one character at a time. Once per character and continued the chain. But as soon as you hit someone that you've already hit or you hit the same character twice, you've come out of that frenzy. All right. That looks like it has the opposite of the spirit, where when you're doing that, you can't see the scratch marks or pools of blood, so you could physically see the people, but it's the opposite of the spirit. Yeah. As far as being able to see their scratch marks, so it's harder to track them. But as long as you make a good contact with your blade on a fresh character, you'll be able to see a death aura or the little Hex Pentagon thing around a character nearby. So you'll still be able to track them if you make good contact. All right. Next is the plague. Plague, of course, is roughly based on different lures from ancient Egypt, other Mesopotamia or Mediterranean. Was it Mediterranean? Yeah, Mediterranean cultures where the plague hit real hard, considered to be. Oh, I get it now because she's holding a thing, the pockets full of posies. Yes, that's probably what that is. It's like that smoke, kind of like fragrances. Yes. So she was considered a priestess in Babylonia or ancient Babylon times. So that's where that Mediterranean Egyptian style look comes from, her character. But as a priestess, she was succumbed to the plagues or one of the different plagues, depending on the character style you choose, I guess where she uses a vile uses a vomit to infect the survivors, we call her vomi mommy. Bomi mommy. Yeah. That's how we identify who she is. One thing I did not know, which is interesting, is with the standard vomit or vile purge is what it's called. It's what a greenish color, I think. I believe so, yes. And it turns the host or the survivor that comes in contact with, they get infected and they cough or scream or something. They make audible noises every so often. Okay. Yeah. Now, of course, you can cleanse this. It is green. You can cleanse this at a wash station. However, if the plague goes and drinks from a fountain that a survivor has cleansed in, she gets a power up to it, which becomes a purplish black purge, like vile purge charge, that does only damage, so it doesn't actually infect them, but infect the survivor. But if she makes contact with that, it does a higher bit of damage versus the generic vile purge. So I found that out. And then, of course, it was said in Chat perks, corrupt intervention, infectious fright and dark devotion. And then, of course, we talked about the power up, which is the vowel purge vomiting. All right, let's see. After plague, we have Oni. Oni is a demonic Japanese spirit, again, in Japanese lure based on a lot of the Japanese legacies or legendary tales of demonic presence of a warrior who has died ever so dead. Yeah. Has died absolutely in the worst way possible and comes back to take revenge on who killed him, basically. So it is said that if you have an Oni on you, you are going to die in the worst of ways. The Oni and the spirit has the same last name. Yes. As it was reminded to me, the Oni is basically the great great grandfather or ancestor to the spirit. Interesting. Of course, the weapon is some type of blunt or bladed object, very large between a Warhammer style club or a Katana. Very large Katana. Let's see. Perks, Kensing tactics, blood Echo and nemesis. Also, the power up is a two parter. So as you cause damage to your survivors, they typically leave blood orbs and you become a Japanese demonstrative Pacman sucking up all the orbs. That's how you power up your power move and the ability. Jamaica, whatever. Yamicho, yamicho, yamicho. Micah. Sure, we'll go with that. Onysrath. We'll just say Onies wrath. Yeah, let's go with that. Where of course, it is a bloodlust of sorts where he goes into a frenzy, rage and just start. His abilities are heightened demon dash and demonstrike. So higher power, higher speed movements. Moving on. We've got Deathslinger. Deathslinger is considered to be old Western, obviously by his costumes. He's born to Irish parents. I didn't know that about him. Interesting. And then of course, the way he is dressed with the Duster and a lot of the gun belts and the additional gun is Rendis. Reminiscent. Yes, reminiscent of an old Western bounty Hunter. Does that make sense? Of course, they were considered Deathslinger to be killed, of course, in the most gruesome ways. But of course, anything was gruesome back in the old west. Yeah, pretty much desklinger has been owed to an old west version of Dock. Back to the future, as in the inventor side because of the invention with the grappling hook style gun. Okay, I can see that. But to my understanding, the devs of the game have not confirmed this. Neither confirmed nor denied. Yes, of course, being his weapon is of course the rifle that has a fish hook style or a spear of sorts that you can reel in. Yeah, of course you can break the line and get loose. As long as you have an object between you and death Slinger. If he gets you, then he hits you and yeah, that's pretty much it down. I absolutely despise death Slinger, even though he's considered, I believe, a medium killer. Like a medium difficulty killer to me. He doesn't have enough power for the lack of mobility and speed. Perks are gearhead Deadman switch and a Hex of retribution. And then the power is known as the Redeemer allows you to aim down sites with your weapon fire a spear. So it's something that it's your normal hit. It is really just your normal hit. He's got a bayonet on the end of the rifle that he uses as a slashing motion. Let's see. Next we got the Blight. The Blight is probably the most gory looking of all the killers. That's true. Very demigorganesque in the sense, but it has a special chemical that has turned its fluids into what looks like human lava. Yeah, like definitely lava esque weapon is just, I guess melee hits with higher power. It says uses the bone Buster. Bone Buster? That's a okay. It busts bones. Very original. Dragons grip a Hex called Blood Favor and also another Hex called Undying. Talbot's power is considered the power move blight and corruption and it allows you to move at a great speed by activating a rush. If you were there during the Blights season, every killer had a perk available to them where it just added a dash on a cool down. It was probably the most annoying thing that I could have ever thought to add to the game. I played the Blight like once as a killer and never touched him again. I mean, keep the Demigorgon and get rid of the damn blight in my mind. If only licensing worked that way. Yeah. All right, next we have the twins. So the twins are conjoined twins being abused in the early 1900, late 1800s where they were considered mutations and monsters. Originally they were going to start them out as mother and son from what I found out and decided to take a turn and do them as conjoined twins. Now of course with this being considered conjoined twins, I call him the Booby Monster so please feel free to use that. Let people know that you got it from NLMP as far as the Booby monster, but it is Victor and Charlotte, Charlotte being the large and in charge female version, large and in charge and Victor being the little guy, the Booby monster. You can detach Victor and this was their way of introducing a smaller killer versus all these very large monstrous style characters. They decided to use this because you can separate it Victor using him separate from Charlotte. As long as no one stomps on him, you can use him as a locator beacon. Anybody within a certain radius of Victor can be seen like a kill radius indicator and anybody within that radius so it could be one or all four. You can attach Victor two characters. If they are not damaged, he will hold on and just cause them to not be able to do anything until they remove him. If they are already damaged or have one health state of damage, he will then down them to a dying state. He lunges. As far as his attack, there is a short cooldown where you cannot attack again, but you still can move to avoid being stomped on by the survivors. If you get stomped on, he is immediately returned to Charlotte and comes out of her insides and hangs out of her chest cavity again. However, you cannot release him again for a short time so there is a cool down to releasing him once he's returned. Perks or hoarder obsession or oppression and cope de Grace with the power of course is the blood bond allows you to unleash Victor. Like I was saying earlier, you want to cover trickster? Because my. All right, we got the trickster. Gwoon Hawk. I don't know what it's reminiscent of. I don't think I know. So what they're saying. What I'm hearing is a Korean version of Jerry Leto's Joker as far as the styling, but also a lot of the modern Korean gangster, like the ginseng gangsters of Korea. Got you. Okay. He's like K pop talented singer. He was unhappy sharing love and adoration with his fans, and he started a fire that consumed his bandmates. And then it looks like he snapped. This one is particularly frustrating because he throws the little throwing stars, for lack of better word for it. So his weapon is the polished head smasher, which is kind of like a baseball bat with, like, a knife extension on the end of it. Long ways, the perks look like it's star struck, no way out. And then there's also the Hex control the crowd. And then the power is, of course, those blades that I was talking about where he continues, like the throwing stars that he throws at you as you're running, it looks like he starts with 44 blades. I didn't realize it was 44 blades. And in the same way as, like, Huntress earlier, you can refill those by going into lockers. Also, when he throws them, there is a meter that powers up. So every contact with the same person, the same survivor. So if he hits multiple survivors, it only charges to a particular one. But as it charges up, once the meter maxes out, then he can unleash one of his perks of his character, where he can quickly let loose unlimited number of blades on a character. Furthermore, putting them into a dying state because it is very demenial on the damage output of each strike. So it's not like it's detrimental, but the more they put on you, you can fill up their meter, and then they can unleash that power throw where he just unlimitedly rapid fires blades at you to put you in that dying state. And it's pretty frustrating when you're playing survivor, and that happens. Let's see. Oh, and that's what stopping power is, is that power meter building up? And then it. All right, let's see. The tablet went down. All right. And then finally the newest one, which is from the current chapter of Portrait of a Murderer, which is called The Artist. You want to go ahead and do that one? Sure. Carmina Mora, would you say Mora or. No, not more. Yeah, that's probably it. She's a corrupt artist still, which would be an understatement. Apparently, when you're her victim, you're a masterpiece. So that makes sense. With the artist. She lost her mother and friends, and she fell to darkness listening to the screams of her loved ones and Crows devout. Oh, so Crows devoured her loved ones. That's interesting. Okay. And her weapon of choice is the pallet knife. Is that how you say that to paint her murals? But now it's her weapon of choice. Okay, I've never noticed that it's actually the paint. So in traditional painting, they use a bladed object to kind of scoop the chunks of paint and put it on their little palette. And like, you can see Bob Ross using it, and occasionally he'll actually use it to paint with larger chunks of paint. So, yeah, it just looked like part of her hand. Like it's attached as a hand. So, like, her fingers on one hand kind of look like it. But then there's also the one in, like, it is her hand. Kind of like she got mutated with the paint or mutatedly combined. And like the ink is a part of her. Yeah, she's got the perks grim embrace, scourge, hook, pain, resonance, and the Hex Pentimento. And her power is birds of Torment. It looks like she summons a dire Crow, so it looks like a shadow Crow, and she shoots it towards areas. And what happens is when it hits a survivor, they're surrounded by Crows which show the killer where they are. So the first one will actually identify the survivor. And I believe the second one, if she hits you again with that, starts to damage you. All right, so talking about Michael Myers, since I mentioned him already, to continue, this is Michael Myers whole demeanor. His whole plot is that tunneling aspect is to focus on one person at a time and take them out meticulously. He's not fast. He's not very strong as far as his strikes, but his whole purpose is to focus on one person. Same thing with Ghost Face in the movies and in the game is to focus on one person at a time and take them out meticulously you have to tunnel with those characters, period, plain and simple. That is how they're built. That's how they were built in the movies because they stalked. You got Ghostbased as a stalker. Michael Myers as a stalker. Focusing on one person playing as those characters is a tunnel aspect if you look at their traits. So Michael Myers, the shape he is. Save the best for last. Play with your food. Play with your food is the name of the damn perk. And then dying light. And his evil within is the three tier process where he stalks people, tunneling them. Okay, we get it. The tunneling until he builds up his full tier three, because once you hit tier two, it stays there forever throughout the game. Tier three is a time based where he can then do a death state damage, no matter whether they're fully healed or already have one tier of damage or health state taken away from them. But he will put them into a dying state and a tier three evil within. Isn't it called tombstone, though? Okay, yeah. So his two iridescent add ons, it takes longer to get to tier three, but he stays in it forever and doesn't come out of it ever. And once it's reached because as a survivor, with the terror radius, normally it gets louder or faster as he gets closer to you. Correct. Whereas with a larger terror radius, there is no variation. So you don't know how close he is and you're freaking out. You're either not paying attention to your gyms, you're not hitting your whatever they call the skill checks because all you're hearing is the terror raise the heartbeat. So that's the point of it being larger for most characters. Is it a psychological thing on the players of the survivors? All right, so that's Mike Myers. Mike Myers whole thing is the stock. Same thing with GoSpace. Ghostface is a stalker character. He peeks around corners. He's the little peaker, the little Voyager. I love that. All right. He's also one of the more fun killers, according to a lot of the people that have watched The Scream series, because he has fun with it. Like most of the imagery, you see him, he's being goofy or dumb or stupid, and that's what he does. He goes one or two ways. It's either really difficult or really funny. Yeah. And honestly, to me, if you have someone that has perfected the Ghostbased playstyle, they are probably the most or if not one of the most deadliest characters there is because they can have fun with you and absolutely obliterate everybody continuously if they do it right. So that's why to me, Ghost Face is probably one of the hardest to perfect, but one of the more fun ones. All right. Freddy Krueger. Freddy Kruger is a nightmare character. He has perks that allows him to be invisible a lot closer to you. He has the stocking kind of thing as well. He's got the not letting you know that he's around. Yes. Now, in his case, his terror radius. As his power grows, the terror radius goes down. And then, of course, you have the awake state and the dream state. In the dream state, he has more control and he's more powerful against you versus you being in an awake state. Also, with Freddy Krueger in your awake state, you don't necessarily see him until you're right up on him, until he's right there. Now in the dream state, of course, you see him as soon as he's in your line of sight kind of thing, but he has more power to harm you when a survivor is in a dream state. Correct. This is one where tunneling is never a good thing as far as being the killer, because the concept behind Freddy is he played with the survivors one particular one or your what's it called? Obsession. The obsession was always allowed to leave until the very end where he can then kill you. But he has to get rid of everybody else first. And it translates to the game concept as well with the perks and the add ons that you can get because it's more of a tormenting kind of thing. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. And it gets more fun for a Freddie main or a Freddie player when your obsession is probably one of the weaker ones on the team. But anytime you do a slash or a melee hit on the obsession, it adds a timer to the indoor so that it takes longer for them to get out. So you're always wanting them to heal your obsession to heal up so you can continuously hit them, but you have to go off and do damage to someone else before you come back to hit the obsession again. But as soon as you hook them, they're no longer the obsession. Do you know that part of it hitting them and Downing them adds to the timer, hooking them, removes them is the obsession. Let's see next. Leather face. Leather face, of course. Bobby Sawyer. Bubba Sawyer is again another tunneler because once he sees someone, his deformed brain only sees them. It's like seeing red. Once he sees someone, that's all he goes after. And that translates to the game character too because when he rages out, he's very limited on his movements. So focusing on one character at a time is how you prevail as that killer. Does that make sense? I'm just reading it here. He's the one that has the Franklin's demise that will get rid of the item and also is barbecue and chili. Barbecue and chili, yes. Another op thing to make sure that you learn for all your killers because once you hook someone, it basically sonars out to everybody else and you can see where people are in the game. Now the best way I could think about that translating is he uses their screens as like echolocation kind of thing where other people when they hear a scream, they kind of oh, God, what was that? That's what I translate it to as far as real life or the movie version because immediately once he killed one, he was off to the next on to the next one. All right, let's see. We did Freddy Leatherface pig. Pig. Yeah. So Mandy Young was obviously out of the Saw series. The killer of everybody. She was the one that went out and got people. She was the one that hooked them up into the traps and her perk. Sadly, the reverse bear trap is underutilized in the game. The one where everybody starts with it. Is that what you're talking about? The one on their head? Can they have to remove it otherwise they die? Yes. So not a lot of people actually use that one. Are you talking about the perk that makes it so they start with it? Not necessarily. Yes. I know that they can put them on the survivors. As far as having all survivors start with a bear trap on that would be more rendescent of the movies especially once because then they're in the game. That would be awesome. They're part of the game. And to me, if you're playing the pig, it should just start out. Do you want to play a game? That's how I think every match should start with a pig killer. That would be really broken, though, because it's really frustrating as a survivor starting with that because you can't really do a whole lot until you get them off. But that's not necessarily guaranteed. But the thing is you're not guaranteed to get it off in the first UNTRAPPING thing. Well, think about it like this. If they implement it. To me, if they implemented the idea of the killer had an offset of entry into the game, giving survivors an opportunity to at least get to a station to unlock it, but also giving that initial timer longer, which typically is what happened in the movies. Like if they were in the bear trap, they had a while or they had to do something particular to start that timer. Yes. In the case of DVD, that trigger to start the timer would be working on a gin versus going straight to a table to remove it. Correct. I think that it would need to if they decided to start it in every trial that it would need to be balanced a little bit more because it does take quite a while to get them off. You're almost guaranteed to lose a game if you start it with it on. Yeah. And then, of course, talking about combinations with other killer perks or other killer add ons, you could ban certain things like that. Like if they did that with pig where everybody started with a reverse bear trap on, then they could say bans the plague's perk of corrupt intervention. And instead of having a true broken system, then you just don't allow it because it's possible. It is absolutely possible to do that to prevent certain perks from being utilized by other characters or using the if this is happening, this can't happen kind of thing. I mean, they can be added very easily to a game, especially something as far along as this is. But that's the pig. And then, of course, she goes into a fitful rage, of course, where she's able to attack faster. But she's also another one of the ones that it either goes one or two ways. They're either really great or they goof around a lot because it's a big thing to Boop the snoot. Yeah, that's what I hear. I don't play pig that often, so I couldn't attest to the snoot. Boopings my absolute favorite killer, Mr. Dorito booty himself. Pyramid Head silently. I don't think you're going to say that. I thought you were going to say something else. What do you think I was going to say? The pinhead. Oh, no. Pinhead is fun, but pyramid head is my absolute favorite horror character. Like monstrousized character ever again. Like Freddy Krueger is one of those dream state horror nightmare characters. He's only visible to you in the nightmare stage of Silent Hill. Love the concept, the translation. He is slow but he's powerful and they translated and balanced that well. His speed versus his utility phenomenally. According to the comics, the movies, the games, everything. To me this is a perfect killer concept that they've added very well balanced. Can be if you don't know how to use him properly, you could fail every time. And that's true of any of them. Yeah, absolutely. But this one more so because especially his quote unquote ranged attack where he stabs the ground and shoots out. Shoots out like the barbed wire thing. Yes. That then Tags a player or a survivor. But force. Penance trail of torment is what it is. So you've got two versions of it. One that typically will stay on the ground longer where he just stabs it and walks around with it stabbed into the ground or the temporary one that shoots out for a certain distance. But if you aim that right, it goes through walls or at least one layer of wall. And if you lead a character's path you can hit them while they're on the run swinging. That huge fucking blade is slow, but if it makes contact does a lot of damage. Almost I believe two health States. So it's a state and a half kind of thing. So you get hit twice, you're done. Oh yeah, definitely. You have a Mori and then a baby Morrie kind of thing. So you have the option is the Mori, of course, but I called the baby Mori a different thing. So when he puts you in the cage is after you've already been hooked once, then he can throw you in the place of a hook. Yes and no. That's like a secondary hook almost. Yes and no. Because when you're in the cage you're not receiving damage and you don't get sacrificed from the cage. You just bleed out from the cage, from the initial damage. Just like if you were still on the ground, but you're placed as far away from players or your other survivors as possible. That's the only advantage to it really. But it's like if you were because they got to unlock you, then heal you instead of versus you just being left on the ground where they have to heal you. Got you. But he can only place them in the cage after their first hook. So once they come off their first hook, then they can get the option to be placed in the cage. Then coming out of their second, they can be worried for the most part. Yeah, that one's a really good Morie. I like that one. It throws you on the ground, they wrap you up in barbed wiring and it just slices through you. Yeah, but yeah, I cannot tell you how many times I've come around a corner from people, and they just like, you see their character jerk from them being, like, scared shitless to see that big ass fucking blade and that pyramid head of steel coming at them. It's so beautiful. I absolutely love playing Pyramid Head. I hate playing against Pyramid Head. That was the first one that I played against you as a killer. Yeah. Did not have fun. All right. Nemesis. Yeah. Nemesis. Mr. Tennacle, Mr. T Virus. He frustrates me. It's interesting. I enjoy playing as him sometimes, but he's only got two perks available to him. As far as starting out in the box, it's the Eruption and Lethal Sewer Hysteria. That's three. No, that Lethal Pursuer. Hysteria is one whole thing. I believe it's grayed out and then white, then grayed out. That's three different ones. Okay. Then the way that it's set up is very close together. Okay. Yeah. Because Lethal Pursuer is just like the beginning of the trial. Sing aura of survivors, and then Hysteria is additional stuff. Okay. Anyway, I know when he hits you, you could be infected by the virus similar to, like, the plague. Yeah. And you turn blue or you got little blue glowy shit all around you, and then you got to cleanse it by. I can't remember how you clean it. You got to go to these chests, you got to open the chest up and pull out the vaccine and inject yourself, which takes place of your item. So if you're holding an item, you have to put your item down to do it. So if you get chased as soon as you pick that vaccine up, you're running around with your vaccine instead of your item that you came in with. Okay. As he powers up his strikes, either by hitting poisoned characters or by hitting zombies that spawn randomly throughout the map. He then powers up his tentacle, which can extend longer per strike. And I believe at a certain tier level can be used to break pallets. Yes, because I have done that, and I was trying to explain that to Atari before I knew that it had to be powered up to a certain tier level. Yeah, that's definitely one of the ones I've heard. But it's quicker to do pallet breaks that way. Yes, absolutely. It is. It's literally a strike and then it's gone. Yeah. Versus like a kicking movement. Yeah. Multiple strike by generic Melee's or feet, but. Yeah, so very slow killer, but represents the movie and game version of Nemesis very well. And I guess it has the advantage because it is a video game character. So the physics from the original video games were utilized in this and modeled after the remake of Resident Evil Two and Three. I will say it's really frustrating going against him with his zombies because they'll Hone in on somebody if they see you and they'll just start following, but they're so slow that it's frustrating. Like if you're on a Gen and they see you, they just slowly follow you and they can damage you, which is so frustrating. Damn AI's tunneling. That's so rude and so wrong. Goodness. You know what, Joker? I don't want to hear your bullshit out of here. Oh, my God. All right. And then the last or second to last and not last because I forgot about one. Yes, because he's no longer available to new players. But we have Hellraiser or Pinhead for all those Gen Z or Cenobite. Cenobite sounds like a freaking coffee house pastry. Let me get a vanilla latte and a sento bite. Yeah. Anyway, Pinhead is probably the most terrifying for a lot of people our age because we grew up with Hellraiser and TV. There was what, a six or seven series movie set that started in the 70s and went all the way into the 80s and early 90s. Also one of the longest running actors to play the same character as well, from start to finish. The actor that played the original was the same one that played continued on. Yeah. The only person to last as long as him, I believe, would be the voice of Chucky. Yeah, I can see that. But either way, he's very cynical, very dream like. Because he is a demon cinebond. He is the essence of Hell. Like literally, he is the gatekeeper. He controls the existence where he uses an ultradimensional chain to bind the souls of the people that he attacks. Yes. And in this case in the game, he uses a chain that you can either push out the start of the portal or directly use it from right at you as a melee hit. And it'll sit there and do damage to the players. Not very extensive damage, but it has its advantages because you can push out the opening to the portal and then the chain itself goes for an extended distance after that as well. So there is good reach to it. However, the only downfall is it's limited on its movement or agility of the movement of the chain when you're portaling it out and then going out from there. But once it hits a player or a survivor, it then randomly minus any perks that you may add on or add ons that would restrict the additional chains coming in and slowing down survivors for you to kind of catch up. Same concept, of course, if you get attached or Victor attaches to you, you slow down. You can't run anymore. Yeah, definitely kind of stops you. But it is limited because it is a line of sight attack. It cannot easily go around objects. It's a very wide turning radius. Yeah, it's very similar to, I would say, Hail Razor line of sight kind of projectile. But Hail Razor is more. It has the turning kind of thing. And it was mentioned also that you noticed that he speaks. He has voices. He has voice lines. Now. I was so confused. I played it yesterday and never had I ever heard any character really say anything. And all of a sudden he's like saying random lines. I'm like, is this a person playing the killer doing voice lines? I didn't realize they had them. And Atari pointed out that they did add it with the new update. It's actually, I think she said it was original voice lines from the movies that are just randomly in there. Yeah. And the concept for giving the killers actual voice lines versus grunts and breathing for certain characters was brought on when Huntress was pointed out to have her lullaby no matter what. But other characters that were human or more humanoid didn't have anything but grunts or breaths or like a laugh with Freddy. Yeah. Freddie's laugh isn't really in there unless they've added that recently. He laughs. He does. Oh yeah, that's right, he does. But like certain voice lines that were a part of that character. Now, of course, with Mike Myers, he doesn't even breathe heavy, really. But Pig had voice lines. I'm pretty sure Legion should have voice lines. So stuff like character would do that, though, because of the different characters within Legion. Yeah. I mean, it would just depend on what? Because they can change the appearance with different skins. So why not attach the voice lines to those skins? Probably the production of doing that with the other one, they just kind of had to pull movie sound bites versus hiring an actor to do it. Yeah, fair. And then Ghostface. Oh my God, the unlimited potential for Ghost base. Definitely. And then finally the Demigorgon. And then the Demigorgon is just that. I mean, it's rendissive of the season one Demigorgon. I mean, of course, as the seasons progress, the Demigorgon has changed depending on the scenarios of the season of the storyline. So I think that's probably one reason why they got rid of it as far as new players, because every season I believe that any version of the Demogorgon existed has changed its appearance from the previous. No, they lost their licensing with it. It was a time frame licensing and they did not get a renewal on it. Well, I was saying as far as also because of the appearance changes too. But everybody who currently owns or has purchased the Demigorgon killer can still utilize them. Yes. It's just no new players can utilize them. This is correct. So you had to purchase it by a certain time because it's a purchaseable content. They can't take it away, but the map is no longer in it. So Hawkins Laboratory is not in there. Yeah. Just for anybody listening in Audio land, I have to point this out. It would be absolutely fantastic if they added a little quip to Ghost face saying Waza. Yeah. And that would be good. Even though that has nothing to do with the actual screen franchise. It's all the parody franchise. Yes, definitely. So on top of the movie versus Dead by Daylight characters. It is not out yet, but in March, I think it's March, they're going to be coming out with the Ringu. So it's the Japanese franchise, which we know more as the Ring, but it's the original Japanese. They're going to be coming out with a Ring or Ringu Killer, and that will be coming out in March. I'm very excited to find out all of that. The only thing that we see is, like, at some point the static of the TV, and then it shows the well, which is if anybody remembers it's the video tape, which nobody knows anymore, VHS player put a little tape in there. This is really old technology in the movie or I guess the original. They watch the videotape or VHS, and seven days later they're killed in one way or another. And from what you're reading, are they talking about pulling a Survivor for the Renew? It doesn't look like it. I think this is going to be basically a killer and killer alone. We'll be sending one of our most haunting characters to the Fog. Yeah, it's just one as far as I can tell. There's not a lot of information, but I think it would be similar to what was the last thing they released when they released, just like Mikayla, only The Hours, which a one character release. And as far as it probably most likely will be the American version of the Ring versus the original Japanese version. No, it says Ringu. Oh, so it is the Rinu. They may end up adding a skin. That is the American version because a lot of characters minus two have multiple skins to them. Mike Myers only has two skins, is generic, what's it called, the flight suit or the hospital gown. And then you have Freddie Krueger hat, only one outfit to him. So outside of that, every other killer has at least three or more outfits to them. Is there any characters that you think that you would want to see in the future? I would honestly like to see. I know who I want. Who do you want? I want it. Oh, you want Pennywise? Yeah, I want Pennywise. I would love a Pennywise. I know we already have a clown, but Pennywise is just a whole nother level. Well, I mean, they did it with Hillbilly and Leatherface. That's true. They did. And it's a very different because it's different stylistically different things that he does. He's more shifting in a way. Jeepers Creepers would be a good one. Oh, yes. Jeepers Creepers would be great. Oh, I would love that. But that would look very similar to Death Slinger because. Well, Groopers has a very similar. Yes. Similar cost, like he has a Duster trench coat. However, I think in silhouette they would look very different, obviously not upon seeing him up close, but the silhouette itself would look similar to me. They would need to do the more scarecrow style. Jeepers creepers versus the monsterized. Like just black skin or blight face Jeepers creepers. But yeah, the more scarecrow version. I would really like to see. That'd be really cool. I honestly don't try to laugh too hard at me, but honestly, since they added Victor in I want to see Chucky. I think Chucky. Actually, I didn't mean to laugh, but no, definitely. I would like to see that. That would be a good one and lower the damage, but make him really quick on his attack. Yeah. Am. And then give something to the survivors, add an animation where you can pick him up and just toss him. Yeah, that would be funny. I mean, I feel like the possibilities at this point are endless because they can create their own ones as well as they can get in on ones that are already established. Absolutely. So between our Twitch chat, our audience and the audio chats, go to Twitter or wherever you're at and leave us a comment. Tell us what you would like to see. Which killer or killer essence would you like to see as the next DVD killer in Dead by Daylight? What perks would they have? A shape shifter. I mean, Pennywise is a shape shifter. Atari, definitely. Pennywise is a shape shifter. He can change into other people. Maybe that would be a thing. That could be a particular perk or a power play for the Pennywise character. You can change into a survivor, walk up right next to you with no death radius or kill radius. That would be a rough he can't kill you until he changes back, but that could be something that would balloons would pop up all over the map or wherever he changed into. The survivor sits a red balloon so that lets you know he just changed into a survivor. You just don't know which one. Yes. If the developers are listening, we're here. If you would like to go ahead and give us a little side gig, little job, we can come up with some ideas. Oh, absolutely. We can come back and forth. But yeah, that's something that we could even visit later on. We could just start have a whole podcast or a whole stream just talking about different killer ideas and what perks they would have, what powers they would have. That could be fun. 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