EP245: Arithmetically Impossible, With Al Lewis, Cofounder and CEO of Quizzify

Why Al Lewis Calls Traditional Wellness Programs "Health Care Done to Employees, Not for Employees" (EP245) Arithmetically Impossible: A Reckoning for the Wellness Industry. Episode 245. Traditional "to employee" wellness programs are, in Al Lewis's words, health care done to employees rather than for employees — mandatory, often stick-dressed-as-carrot, and generally touted for cost savings that don't hold up under scrutiny. In this episode, Stacey Richter talks with Al Lewis, cofounder and CEO of Quizzify, about why so many employer wellness programs stay in place despite being suboptimal on cost, quality, and satisfaction, and what it will take for the market to finally reward the solutions that actually work. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN ✅ Why traditional wellness programs persist even when they're "heartily suboptimal" — because everybody in the supply chain, from vendors to brokers, is still making money off them ✅ Why re-educating an employer about an underperforming wellness program is often seen as too time-consuming or risky for brokers to bother with ✅ Why Al Lewis has earned the nickname "troublemaker-in-chief" of the wellness industry for his rigorous, often unpopular analysis ✅ How Quizzify, Al Lewis's company, teaches employees to get the care they need while avoiding the "care" they don't — and how its claims have been independently validated by the Validation Institute WHY THIS MATTERS Employers are getting wiser about a lot of things right now, and wellness programs may be next on the list. As lawsuits move forward and research piles up showing many programs don't deliver on their promises, the real question is whether legacy vendors can compete with solutions employees actually want to use — or whether the market finally starts rewarding what works over what's always been sold. === LINKS === 🔗 Show Notes with all mentioned links: Episode Page ✉️ Enjoy this podcast? Subscribe to the free weekly newsletter 🫙 Support the podcast with a small donation to the Tip Jar 🎤 Listen on Apple Podcasts 🎤 Listen on Spotify 📺 Subscribe to our YouTube channel === CONNECT WITH THE RHV TEAM === ✭ LinkedIn ✭ Threads ✭ Bluesky ✭ X