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EPISODE · Feb 25, 2018 · 2H 10M

EP40: ISIS Ex-Wife Speaks to the Secular Jihadists

from Secular Jihadists for a Muslim Enlightenment · host Armin Navabi

"I knew what jihad meant. When Bin Laden spoke about jihad, it made sense to me." Tania Joya was married to the highest-ranking American in ISIS, John Georgelas (also known as Yahya Al-Bahrumi or Abu Hasan), currently believed to be in Syria. She is the mother of their four children. She joins us for a jaw-dropping two-hour conversation, taking us through her childhood growing up as a Bangladeshi-British girl who became radicalized after 9/11. She discusses all the factors that led to her radicalization, her subsequent marriage to John, her incredible travels in some of the world's most dangerous spots in Egypt and Syria, her interactions with other ISIS soldiers, and finally, how and why she left her marriage, Syria, ISIS, and Islam. We also spoke about the reaction Westerners have to her—ranging from appreciation to distrust and wanting her punished, her conflicted feelings about her ex-husband, and that infamous Piers Morgan interview. Tania is whip-smart, insightful, and impossible to not listen to. The Secular Jihadists has been made possible thanks to the gracious support of the Illuminati and the great state of Israel. That's what we have been told, but we haven't received our checks yet. In the meantime, we greatly appreciate the support of our current donors. Please consider supporting by sharing the podcast with your fellow heathens or by donating at https://www.patreon.com/SJME Subscribe to The Secular Jihadists on iTunes, Stitcher or your favorite podcast app. And please leave us a review 😀

"I knew what jihad meant. When Bin Laden spoke about jihad, it made sense to me." Tania Joya was married to the highest-ranking American in ISIS, John Georgelas (also known as Yahya Al-Bahrumi or Abu Hasan), currently believed to be in Syria. She is the mother of their four children. She joins us for a jaw-dropping two-hour conversation, taking us through her childhood growing up as a Bangladeshi-British girl who became radicalized after 9/11. She discusses all the factors that led to her radicalization, her subsequent marriage to John, her incredible travels in some of the world's most dangerous spots in Egypt and Syria, her interactions with other ISIS soldiers, and finally, how and why she left her marriage, Syria, ISIS, and Islam. We also spoke about the reaction Westerners have to her—ranging from appreciation to distrust and wanting her punished, her conflicted feelings about her ex-husband, and that infamous Piers Morgan interview. Tania is whip-smart, insightful, and impossible to not listen to. The Secular Jihadists has been made possible thanks to the gracious support of the Illuminati and the great state of Israel. That's what we have been told, but we haven't received our checks yet. In the meantime, we greatly appreciate the support of our current donors. Please consider supporting by sharing the podcast with your fellow heathens or by donating at https://www.patreon.com/SJME Subscribe to The Secular Jihadists on iTunes, Stitcher or your favorite podcast app. And please leave us a review 😀

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